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post #1021 of 9975
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

This will prepare you down the road when the original lamp loses 10-20% of brightness in the first 500 hours, then you can open up that aperture a bit to compensate.

You mean loose 40-50% of your brightness in the first 500-600 hours......
post #1022 of 9975
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

thank you. I am downloading the AVCHD file and it should play ok within PowerDVD 10. I don't want to get too crazy with the convergence, I made myself nuts a few years ago with my Mitsubishi HC5500 which was off by a mile. then the 2nd was off as well. The third was acceptable, but nothing to write home about.

I just want to make sure there is nothing major out of the ordinary, hopefully all within 1/2 a pixel off or so. The menu text looks quite nice, I did play with the pixel alignment and was able to make it look my first two 3 LCD projects.

The convergence grid pattern is found under the Misc. Patterns section of the disc. Have a look up at the screen on how different areas of the screen look. Make sure the pj is perfectly focused first. Use THIS pattern to set your pixel shift, if needed. Also look at the single pixels within the grid boxes. It should look like a single white pixel. With bad convergence, it looks like a small cluster of single red blue and green pixels. And then somewhere in between depending on degree of MC if any.

Let us know what you find and if you can post photos from about 1.5 feet of the screen of the pattern that would be terrific.
post #1023 of 9975
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

There is a convergence grid available in the built-in patterns, but note this is a TWO pixel wide grid. Ever wonder why they don't include a single pixel grid?


Actually its single pixel around the edges where MC would be largest so I am not completely sure it was intentional to hide the real MC from us. There is also the real MC test pattern which shows the individual blue/green/red separated pixel lines

However, the white grid pattern is 100 IRE!! This is more of an issue than the 2 pixel in my opinion. As there will always be a slight inter-pixel light leakage, the brighter the grid, the more the MC is masked by the blurring of the lines. A 50 IRE single grid is best. The DVDO Duo I have has this form of test.
post #1024 of 9975
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Best pattern for this is on the AVS HD 709 disc. You don't need a blu-ray burner to make it, but you do need a blu-ray player (I think?) to play it.

There is a convergence grid available in the built-in patterns, but note this is a TWO pixel wide grid. Ever wonder why they don't include a single pixel grid? Anyway, check it with the single pixel grid when you can. Note how the single pixels in each of the grid box (again on AVS HD 709 pattern) look as well. Single pixels, or clusters of pixels?

The AVS patterns can be burned as AVCHD to a single layer DVD, so it's dirt cheap, but will only play in Blu-ray players. Most Blu-ray players should be able to read it.
post #1025 of 9975
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Originally Posted by cpc View Post

I emailed Pro.JVC.com to clarify whether or not they see the bottom diagram in the owners manual as showing the projectors left side, showing the projector facing left and describing the clearance at the back as 200 mm and the response I got was:

Here is what GaryB (from JVC UK) replied to me in the UK thread:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/13584395-post74.html

Apparently he believes 10mm (whatever is necessary for the cables) will be enough.

My question is just above that post (http://www.avforums.com/forums/13584302-post73.html).

Maybe Gary will comment and lift the contradiction?
post #1026 of 9975
I was contacted by Laurie of the AVS Store and she said they have received their first shipment of RS40s today (but fewer than they had hoped for) and they had one for me (I was high on the pre-order list). However, I'm leaving Monday morning for the holiday and won't be back home until Dec. 29th. She said I could go ahead and let them charge my card then delay shipment until after Christmas, but with all of you guys standing in line hoping to get your RS40 before Christmas, I agreed to let them fill my order from their next shipment from JVC (due late Dec. or the 1st week of January).
post #1027 of 9975
If one is going to take a break for say 30-60 minutes and get back to watching, is it better to turn off the projector or press the HIDE button?
post #1028 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post

I was contacted by Laurie of the AVS Store and she said they have received their first shipment of RS40s today (but fewer than they had hoped for) and they had one for me (I was high on the pre-order list). However, I'm leaving Monday morning for the holiday and won't be back home until Dec. 29th. She said I could go ahead and let them charge my card then delay shipment until after Christmas, but with all of you guys standing in line hoping to get your RS40 before Christmas, I agreed to let them fill my order from their next shipment from JVC (due late Dec. or the 1st week of January).

ron, i find your posts to be some of the most intelligent on this forum. I also think you've gone a bit mad as well.

very nice gesture. personally I would have canceled the trip. My RS40 arrived today along with the glasses, I should have the emitter tomorrow. Wife & kids are leaving for 2 weeks for a family event in 2 days.

it's just me, the JVC and 10 TB of Bluray ISO's until the new year. Bless Home theater!!
post #1029 of 9975
Very cool of you Ron. Kind of happy to hear a date on the next shipment but also sad at the same time since I'll most likely won't have it for xmas as I will be hosting the family gathering.
post #1030 of 9975
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

I agree to a point, but are you suggesting that people that frequent this forum simply sit back relax and enjoy the show and forget about any "little" image idiosyncrasies? Good luck with that! It's never happened in the past and won't happen now. The dam's about to burst.

Sorry I was in denial mode its yet another 3D gamma mode
post #1031 of 9975
Does anybody know what the expected lamp life of the RS-40 is ?
post #1032 of 9975
I would be interested to here from any of you new RS40 owners who had an RS1/HD1 before. How big is the difference? Huge ? Moderate? small?
Its where I am coming from.

Thanks
Tony
post #1033 of 9975
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dangc View Post

You mean loose 40-50% of your brightness in the first 500-600 hours......

Uhhhh, that's quite a bit much. My RS20 was still very bright after 1000 hours, not as bright as it was in the first 200, but definitely not 50% less bright. To me this sounds like a Bad bulb. You should be able to enjoy a very good brightness out of this projector till wll over 500 hours. I understand you are very doubtful about the good brightness reports, but there are 5 or 6 of us on this thread with these RS40s projecting an average of 12-18 ft away on screens from 1.1 gain to 1.3 and we're all saying that the projector is plenty bright, and some of is like myself, have toned the apertue down to -5 or even -8. You don't have to believe any of it if you so choose. But i think at this point we're pretty well past the doubtful stages and have entered into a reality that this projector is plenty bright right now against even low gain screens, so we don't need to continue this doom and gloom approach about how dim the projector is or how dim it will be. All projectors are going to lose 20 maybe 30% brightness from the bulb initially after the first few hundred hours, but to say that it will lose half the brightness at 500 hours is not likely and a bit of pisimism. So cheer up dude, there will be plenty of bright days ahead
post #1034 of 9975
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post

I was contacted by Laurie of the AVS Store and she said they have received their first shipment of RS40s today (but fewer than they had hoped for) and they had one for me (I was high on the pre-order list). However, I'm leaving Monday morning for the holiday and won't be back home until Dec. 29th. She said I could go ahead and let them charge my card then delay shipment until after Christmas, but with all of you guys standing in line hoping to get your RS40 before Christmas, I agreed to let them fill my order from their next shipment from JVC (due late Dec. or the 1st week of January).

What a good man! Are you either Santa or Jesus?
post #1035 of 9975
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbelectronic View Post

Does anybody know what the expected lamp life of the RS-40 is ?

2000 hours, but probably 1500 of realistic use with accepted brightness.
post #1036 of 9975
on my rs1 I've gotten anything from 150 to 2200+hrs on the bulbs. Averaging about 1600hrs. These newer bulbs are supposed to be more stable but i'm not expecting miracles at this point.
post #1037 of 9975
I'am really glad that the RS40's 3D performance turned out to be much better than expected. I'll have to reconsider my dislike of 3D. But lucky owners
of the RS40 please post you're observations of it's 2D Blu-ray performance &
if possible post some pictures. Let us know if it can produce natural looking colors.And how about the critical flesh tones? Many of us have been waiting for a long long time for a really nicely performing & modestly priced JVC projector.Something that JVC refused to deliver with the RS10 & RS15.
Have our long time wishes finally become true?

For quite some time this projector will be mostly used for 2D entertainment.
post #1038 of 9975
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Originally Posted by zbroke View Post

If one is going to take a break for say 30-60 minutes and get back to watching, is it better to turn off the projector or press the HIDE button?

In general if I'm going to be away for more than 30-45 minutes I turn it off. Sometimes I think it'll be 30-45 minutes and then later I realize its longer and I should have just turned it off. Anyway its a personal preference for sure. But at any rate there is no point of pressing the Mute button. It doesn't save the bulb at all, zippo. And by using it your more likely to forget its on and find it running a few days later...
post #1039 of 9975
I think I was #4 but damnsam is right in saying I haven't been very active. Work has been killing me with long hours and I haven't gotten more than a few hours to play with the new toy. I did run some calibration readings and posted the screen shots but other than that I haven't been very helpful. I do agree with damnsam on what a great picture this projector throws. I don't have my emitter and galsses yet (they arrive Friday) so I havn't been able to watch any 3D. I am certainly excited to finally see the wonder for myself. To my great regret I'm also going to be hosting the wife's family all day Saturday, my family all day Sunday and I'm leaving on a trip starting Monday... AAAARRRGGGHHH

Sometimes life just doesn't cooperate...
post #1040 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

The Samsung 3D player was firmware updated to lessen "ghosting" with some success, IMO.

Is this recent? I'm using a 7900 and haven't seen a firmware update notice...
post #1041 of 9975
Originally Posted by Joseph Clark
An RS40 in the hands of an Acer enthusiast. I'm really anxious to hear what you think - especially since you see no ghosting on the Acer. If you can burn a DVD, the AVS test disc takes just a few minutes. You could check convergence with it.


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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

since I am shelf mounted, I can easily setup both projectors at the same time. I am excited to see the JVC, but at the same time, will be objective in comparing the differences between these 2 projectors. Stepup 3D and Street Dance 3D would be a good test, there is a good deal of mixed contrast scenes, dark scenes in a night club, etc that was a little tough on the ACER mainly due to the contrast I believe.

Sam is sending me his extra emitter (I already have the X103's) so hopefully by tomorrow night I can provide some feedback. Tonight i'll mainly be getting it in place, checking QC, etc. The first movie I want to see is Underworld, which was just blah on my older 3LCD projector.

I was hoping there were some built in test patterns so I can check convergence, I don't have a bluray player at work.

I'm just catching up on this thread after being away all day, and reading the above without even reading the entire rest of the posts yet, and have to say this is very exciting, zombie10K. Can't wait to hear what you have to say. I'm extremely happy with a good RS25 but have been following the Acer 3D thread with lots of interest. I will probably buy one as soon as the Optima unit is out to use with a regular 3D Bluray player.

Now I have to go read what you've probably written by now.... HA!

Thanks
post #1042 of 9975
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Originally Posted by zbroke View Post

Well UPS tracking shows mine in Mesquite TX with a scheduled delivery of tomorrow (12/8/2010) so I feel like an owner already! I will do my best to give the "guy next door's" impression because I always intended, and still intend to appreciate that box "as is" with very little fiddling...

hooking it up to your new Integra dhc-80.2 pre-pro ?
post #1043 of 9975
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Best pattern for this is on the AVS HD 709 disc. You don't need a blu-ray burner to make it, but you do need a blu-ray player (I think?) to play it.

There is a convergence grid available in the built-in patterns, but note this is a TWO pixel wide grid. Ever wonder why they don't include a single pixel grid? Anyway, check it with the single pixel grid when you can. Note how the single pixels in each of the grid box (again on AVS HD 709 pattern) look as well. Single pixels, or clusters of pixels?

Is the AVS hd 709 Disc better to do video calibration than the Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark Blu-ray Edition Disc? Are there any pointer you guys could share?
post #1044 of 9975
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Best pattern for this is on the AVS HD 709 disc. You don't need a blu-ray burner to make it, but you do need a blu-ray player (I think?) to play it...

I've been meaning to ask about that if you guys don't mind. I did as the instructions said (I'm on an intel iMac), and burned the .iso image and when I view it on the mac all I see is the one .iso file on it. So this sounds normal and I should be able to stick it in my Oppo or PS3 no problem?


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post #1045 of 9975
YOu need to use a program like Burn or Toast on the MAC to prperly burn the iso file to disc. The iso file is an image that needs to be written in a specific way so that the operating system sees all the directories and files that were on the original disc when the image was taken.
post #1046 of 9975
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

Uhhhh, that's quite a bit much. My RS20 was still very bright after 1000 hours, not as bright as it was in the first 200, but definitely not 50% less bright. To me this sounds like a Bad bulb. You should be able to enjoy a very good brightness out of this projector till wll over 500 hours. I understand you are very doubtful about the good brightness reports, but there are 5 or 6 of us on this thread with these RS40s projecting an average of 12-18 ft away on screens from 1.1 gain to 1.3 and we're all saying that the projector is plenty bright, and some of is like myself, have toned the apertue down to -5 or even -8. You don't have to believe any of it if you so choose. But i think at this point we're pretty well past the doubtful stages and have entered into a reality that this projector is plenty bright right now against even low gain screens, so we don't need to continue this doom and gloom approach about how dim the projector is or how dim it will be. All projectors are going to lose 20 maybe 30% brightness from the bulb initially after the first few hundred hours, but to say that it will lose half the brightness at 500 hours is not likely and a bit of pisimism. So cheer up dude, there will be plenty of bright days ahead

I agree that 50% is high but all these bulbs are down by at least 40% anywhere between 500-700 hours.....It may not seem like it, but you can't trust your eye to tell you as your eyes will adjust to the reduced light. Anyway there are plenty of long threads on this and we don't need to worry about that here as I do trust that this new JVC has enough light.

And thank you again for all your feedback! I can't wait to get my new projector......
post #1047 of 9975
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Originally Posted by xuniman View Post

YOu need to use a program like Burn or Toast on the MAC to prperly burn the iso file to disc. The iso file is an image that needs to be written in a specific way so that the operating system sees all the directories and files that were on the original disc when the image was taken.

Thanks; should have known better than to use the mac burn utility. I've got Toast Titanium so I should be good-to-go.
post #1048 of 9975
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

I should also say that both TOE and myself are tied for the first place, since we were together at the same time picking up our RS40s from the dealer. I do remember the dealer handing me the first box, so it's debatable, we should have gotten a witness! Damn! haha!


Sam, you deserve #1 just for all the work you have done in this thread in the past week I know there are MANY of us who have loved reading your posts

Just watched my first 3d movie and WOW. I watched A Christmas Carol and NO GHOSTING AT ALL..........NO FLICKER..........brighter than I expected.........I was projecting ~128" 1.78 image to fill my 2.35 screen with this 2.40 film and was pleasantly surprised that it was brighter than I anticipated. Would love to see this on a highpower screen, but for the time being I am VERY happy with what I saw tonight............it was snowing in my HT for crying out loud! I was also surprised how sharp and detailed the 3d image was and how good the colors were for 3d...............The depth was incredible at times.........when I first saw Avatar in the IMAX in 3d in Jan of this year, I knew at that moment that 3d was the next big step for HT and that I wanted it...........I am happy to report that this RS40 gave me an experience tonight that not only matched but surpassed the few 3d movies I have seen at the commercial cinema and I cant believe that I have a better 3d experience in my home vs the cinema in the same year that I started dreaming of just having this in my HT. The bang/buck factor on this projector just keeps getting better and better..........SO glad I missed that last RS10 from Jason now! I am VERY, VERY happy with what I have seen from this projector so far!
post #1049 of 9975
would anyone like to rent me a 3D Avatar movie for 3 days?
post #1050 of 9975
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Originally Posted by TheTonik View Post

Do you guys think that some people are more susceptible to crosstalk than others? Because I have seen a TON of it on every single 3D test I have tried out. Black Ops, Open Season, Gran Turismo, Alice In Wonderland, Super Stardust, A Christmas Carole - all of it. And not just a little bit either, Im talking enough to really bother me. This was using the Xpand glasses, so I went ahead and ordered some JVC glasses that are scheduled to arrive tomorrow to see if that helps. I just dont get how Sam and others have reported no crosstalk when I cant seem to get away from it....

You saw a BUNCH on A Christmas Carol? I literally did not see ANY and I was looking for both that and trying to notice flicker for most of the film. Maybe some are just more sensitive to this as compared to others (like RBE for example).

For what its worth I am using a Oppo 93 and the JVC glasses. I have screen size set in the Oppo.
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