Originally Posted by Deja Vu
I sure wouldn't be basing my evaluation of this projector on screen shots. Screen shots only tell you that the projector actually throws an image. I've seen literally hundreds of screen shots on this forum over the years and many of them look at least as good as these. They were taken to what projectors, that were far inferior to the JVC, supposedly could do. You simply can't get an accurate idea of black level , colour etc. from screen shots since there are just too many variables including the camera.
I going to make a few comments about "ghosting" and why I consider it a serious problem. For me, ghosting is akin to edge enhancement. I remember being in a Best Buy and a salesman was demoing a T.V. for me. He played MIB (DVD). I told him I saw a lot of EE and he just gave me a blank look, so I pointed it out to him. He now knew what EE was for the first time and he would never look at video in the same way again. I had, to some extent, just ruined the experience for him and turned him into a critic! I think that those who can spot EE without thinking about it are going to have a terrible time with ghosting. With RBE you see it to varying degrees or you don't. If you don't see it, it doesn't matter if someone tries to point it out by showing you scenes where he/she sees it. You simply won't see it. Not so with EE or ghosting. You may see it right off the bat or suddenly notice it with more viewing or, heaven forbid, someone points it out to you and ruins you for life.
How many times have I heard - "it's not that bad, I can live with it, or the good outweighs the bad. Funny thing is that when the issue is addressed in a future generation these same people, that could easily life with the artifact, suddenly dump their projector and buy the new one, without the problem. They now come on here and comment that their new projector is so much better since it doesn't have such and such artifact. Yes, the same artifact that supposedly wasn't a problem for them. It was something they could overlook. Yeah right!
Personally, I think that many of the Sony and JVC owners who claim everything they watch is "ghost free" simply haven't noticed it yet, but will. When they do they won't be happy campers. Once you see it your eye will be drawn to it. You can tell someone not to think about "cats", but the first thing they'll do is think about "cats".
Apparently the HP screen accentuates "ghosting". So what we have here is a situation where a screen that really helps with the lack of 3D lumens actually is a negative because it enhances the visibility of an artifact that is caused by the projector and not by the screen. Sounds like a Catch 22 to me.
I have no interest in being the guinea pig for these manufacturers. The "ghosting" issue needs to be addressed. There should be no visible ghosting or, at the least, no more than DLP shows. Am I asking for too much? I am simply not willing to go from a ghost free image to one with ghosting and pay a ton more money for the privilege.
The reason for this rant is simply that I would like to purchase, at a reasonable price, a 1080p 3D projector, with lens sift and some other bells and whistles that does not have the added bonus of "ghosting" thrown in at no extra cost.