AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP › Official JVC RS40/X3 Owners Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official JVC RS40/X3 Owners Thread - Page 81

post #2401 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

I would like to touch again on the CMD modes, since I was one of the proponents of pure film mode (24fps). I must say that I am quickly changing my mind about Frame Interpolation, and I can see myself watching, most, if not all bluray movies with Clear Motion Drive (Mode 3). I saw both "Knight & Day" and "From Paris with Love" with Mode 3 turned on, and the picture looks sooo much smoother and sharper, without the dreaded Waxy or Soap Opera-ish look I remember seeing on first and second generation 120hz TVs and projectors.

My wife was the same way, she hated watching blurays with FI turned on, but it just seem to look more natural and less "artifact-ish" with the JVC CMD modes, especially mode 3, which does Not use DFI, and at first impression may seem too smooth, but it took 15 mins of viewing and comparing to CMD-Off, and we both found the image quality with Mode 3 looking instantly smoother and sharper, while still not overly done or looking too realistic.

Just my 2 cents, since I've always been against any for of FI on 24fps blurays.

Still too much artifacts for my tastes ... even in Mode3 ....
Miles away from Epson and Sony low modes implementations .... sorry ...
post #2402 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aztech View Post

this Xbox issue is very troubling for me... i will use the 360 like crazy. if anybody else can chime in and check if they have this issue with their 360's it would be greatly appreciated.

I will test this again myself on my new 360 tonight, but as I said it looked pretty bad on his video, I can't imagine myself not noticing this flickering by now on my 140" screen from 10 feet away.
post #2403 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

Still too much artifacts for my tastes ... even in Mode3 ....
Miles away from Epson and Sony low modes implementations .... sorry ...

I ABSOLUTELY hated how it looked on the Epson from 2 years ago, YUCK!!!

I can't say the same about the Sony, because I have not seen FI on a Sony projector, but I dislike it on my Sony 55HX800, which is a 240hz top of the line 2010 model LED flat panel TV. Only difference with the NX series, is that the 3D and WiFi is built in, and there seems to be some kind of Constrast enhancer feature, but the CMD on the HX800 is about as good as it gets on the Sony's, and I prefer the JVC RS40 Mode 3 over it.
post #2404 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

I ABSOLUTELY hated how it looked on the Epson from 2 years ago, YUCK!!!

I saw the new one and in low and middle position I assure you that it's better than previous releases and now real natural
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

I can't say the same about the Sony, because I have not seen FI on a Sony projector, ...

We tested FI side by side among new Sony 90, new Epson and RS40 and I assure you that the worse was the one of RS40 ... where mode 3 is anyway the only one just usable and not on all movie due to still too much artifacts ...
post #2405 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77

I will test this again myself on my new 360 tonight, but as I said it looked pretty bad on his video, I can't imagine myself not noticing this flickering by now on my 140" screen from 10 feet away.
Please do.

Like I said it totally disappears at 720/420p but is there at 1080i/1080p.

I have tried two different hdmi cables. The only thing I haven't done is update the firmware on the 40. Not that the issue was addressed but I think you are updated.

It's tough to see unless you pull up the windows like I did but once you see it you know it's there.

Can anyone explain why the issue goes away when in 720/480. What's changing besides resolution?

Edit - Are any 360 games even in 1080p?
post #2406 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post
Change to 720p. Let me know if it goes away. Mine is gone with 720p.

No issue on my dish, Oppo, or ps3 either.

So seems to be 1080p 360 only.
Yes it does appear to be gone in 720p. Hmm. The whole thing is very weird and I can't see anything about the projector that could induce this.

But your video looks quite a bit worse than mine. I see a very gentle shimmering if I focus on the grey areas. I see nothing elsewhere, and I wouldn't call it flicker or wavy lines....as I say, a shimmer. But I can see it has the same "roots" as what you showed in your video, just like a lesser version of it.

But i know video cameras can either hide or exaggerate it..so perhaps you can comment how much reality looks like your video?
post #2407 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonStatt

Yes it does appear to be gone in 720p. Hmm. The whole thing is very weird and I can't see anything about the projector that could induce this.

But your video looks quite a bit worse than mine. I see a very gentle shimmering if I focus on the grey areas. I see nothing elsewhere, and I wouldn't call it flicker or wavy lines....as I say, a shimmer. But I can see it has the same "roots" as what you showed in your video, just like a lesser version of it.

But i know video cameras can either hide or exaggerate it..so perhaps you can comment how much reality looks like your video?
It hard to say. All I know is its noticeable. It only really bothers me in the guide.

The fact that your issue goes away in 720p means we are likely seeing the same thing.

The camera can play tricks but I think we do have a small issues

Have you upgraded the firmware?
post #2408 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post
Are any 360 games even in 1080p?
Unlike the PS3, most xbox360 games are in 1080p/60.

EDIT: I should say upconverted to 1080P from native 720P.
post #2409 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77

Unlike the PS3, most xbox360 games are in 1080p/60.
I have two other xboxs in the house I will try. One is another slim and the other is an elite.

Maybe it's just my xbox but I have a feeling it's a combo on the 40 and 360. I would have easily noticed this on my epson.

I will also try moving my 360 away from my equipment rack to see if it's some sort of interference.
post #2410 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post
I saw the new one and in low and middle position I assure you that it's better than previous releases and now real natural


We tested FI side by side among new Sony 90, new Epson and RS40 and I assure you that the worse was the one of RS40 ... where mode 3 is anyway the only one just usable and not on all movie due to still too much artifacts ...
Exactly I was talking about Epson's first PJ with FI, which was released around the same time as the RS20. I compared the PQ side by side with the Epson at the time against the RS20, with FI turned off, and the RS20 blew the Epson out of the water with the inky blacks and obvious contrast superiority. And the FI on the Epson was HORRENDOUS at the time, which is why I am saying the FI on the RS40 is better than the 2 yr old Epson I saw at the time.

The Sony VW90 is almost triple the price of the RS40's preorder price, so there is no way in heck I would fork that much more money to get better FI, or lose the great 3D capabilities to get the new Epson w/ better FI, which is why I still think the RS40 at its price range offers the best bang for the buck for pretty much any projector that had been released in the past 10 years. I am still amazed at both the 2D and 3D picture quality of the RS40 and the fact that it also happens to be the least expensive of the 3 projectors I have owned.

If only JVC can address the 720p 3D DirecTV issue with ESPN 3D, I would be a happy camper.
post #2411 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post
Unlike the PS3, most xbox360 games are in 1080p/60.
Native? I thought the vast majority of games on both the 360/PS3 were 720p native? I dont game much though so I am sure you guys know better than me.
post #2412 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post
It hard to say. All I know is its noticeable. It only really bothers me in the guide.

The fact that your issue goes away in 720p means we are likely seeing the same thing.

The camera can play tricks but I think we do have a small issues

Have you upgraded the firmware?
I didn't update the firmware because there was nothing in it for an X7/RS50 to make it worthwhile.
post #2413 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post
I have two other xboxs in the house I will try. One is another slim and the other is an elite.

Maybe it's just my xbox but I have a feeling it's a combo on the 40 and 360. I would have easily noticed this on my epson.

I will also try moving my 360 away from my equipment rack to see if it's some sort of interference.
The better thing to do, is to plug in the same slim 360 to another display in a different room, to avoid a possible interference. Also if you can, move the RS40 temporarily to another room just to eliminate the possibility of an electrical interference.
post #2414 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by robobob View Post
I am planning to install an RS-40 at vertical center of screen to accomodate a Dalite high power and optimize its gain at the seating position as much as possible.

There is plenty of room for a bookshelf along the back wall.

Assuming that the shelf is stout and attached to the back wall with brackets, does anyone think that the subwoofer LFE will potentially cause more vibration issues with the projector than if it were ceiling mounted?

Know of any shelves with enough depth? I had planned to attach a bottom plate that extends beyond the front of the shelf but I would like to start with at least 15" of shelf depth.

TIA
I was at Lowe's hardware and seen someone in line with a couple of huge heavy duty steel shelf brackets. That's what I'll be using. I plan on using 1/2" (or thicker) plywood for the shelf. This thing needs a huge shelf to accomodate it's size plus breathing space behind it for the vents. I'll probably leave some space between the wall and the back edge of the shelf for better air flow. This is a custom job. Better make sure you mount only to the studs too. If the studs don't match up to where the brackets are going, mount plywood to the studs, then mount the brackets to the plywood, and then paint it to match the wall.

In my situation I'm in the basement so the I don't expect any sw LFE vibrations through the concrete foundation. However, I do have to re-locate my 2 back speakers. I'll be moving those off the wall and onto celing brackets so only the pj is on the back wall. I'm not using a ceiling mount for the pj because I don't want foot traffic on the floor above to cause vibrations. That's a more likely source of vibrations in my case so I need to rule that out.
post #2415 of 9663
Damnsam.
"If only JVC can address the 720p 3D DirecTV issue with ESPN 3D, I would be a happy camper".

How about 3d movies on Direct tv?
post #2416 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toe View Post
Native? I thought the vast majority of games on both the 360/PS3 were 720p native? I dont game much though so I am sure you guys know better than me.
It may be native 720P, but 90% of the 360 games are listed as 1080P, if you look at the back of the case/artwork, they're listed as full 1080P.

Ps3 on the other hand, keep the resolution at 720P for some reason, so much for Sony touting bluray with the bigger capacity at 50GB but at 720P res, while the 360 continues to use 9GB DVDs with 1080P resolution, go figure!
post #2417 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post
Exactly I was talking about Epson's first PJ with FI, which was released around the same time as the RS20. I compared the PQ side by side with the Epson at the time against the RS20, with FI turned off, and the RS20 blew the Epson out of the water with the inky blacks and obvious contrast superiority. And the FI on the Epson was HORRENDOUS at the time, which is why I am saying the FI on the RS40 is better than the 2 yr old Epson I saw at the time.

The Sony VW90 is almost triple the price of the RS40's preorder price, so there is no way in heck I would fork that much more money to get better FI, or lose the great 3D capabilities to get the new Epson w/ better FI, which is why I still think the RS40 at its price range offers the best bang for the buck for pretty much any projector that had been released in the past 10 years. I am still amazed at both the 2D and 3D picture quality of the RS40 and the fact that it also happens to be the least expensive of the 3 projectors I have owned.

If only JVC can address the 720p 3D DirecTV issue with ESPN 3D, I would be a happy camper.
FYI - That first Epson that had frame interpolation was the 6500UB and it was really poor when the projector was first released 2 years ago. However, several months later Epson released a firmware update (ver. 1.09) that made a significant improvement to the point FI was quite usuable for live sports and some other programming. The Epson 8500UB further improved the FI performance with a new hardware chip.
post #2418 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjgar View Post
Damnsam.
"If only JVC can address the 720p 3D DirecTV issue with ESPN 3D, I would be a happy camper".

How about 3d movies on Direct tv?
I have not tested the 3D Movies channel since it's PPV. But the 103n channel plays everything just fine in 3D since they are 1080i SBS, including 3D movies and documentaries and even some sports. Only caveat for the DVR portion, is that these 3D shows had to have been DVR-ed while connected to the RS40 or the AVR which is connected to the RS40. As far as viewing live content, by simply tuning to 103n, it works just fine.

I am no longer getting the "1080p/24 playback display incompatability" error when playing back recorded 3D content from the 103n, but the 720P 3D error still comes up when I try to watch 3D Sports by ESPN.
post #2419 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post
FYI - That first Epson that had frame interpolation was the 6500UB and it was poor when the projector was first released 2 years ago. However, several months later Epson released a firmware update (ver. 1.09) that made a significant improvement to the point FI was quite usuable for live sports and some other programming. The Epson 8500UB further improved the FI performance with a new hardware chip.
I demo-ed FI with the Epson 6500UB while playing Phantom of the Opera Bluray, and I almost wanted to punch the Epson PJ in the balls It was awful, and it almost ruined my opinion of FI forever, this opinion grew stronger when I demoed one of Sony's first 120hz flat panels about 8 months later. I could totally see it being useful on Sports, OTA or Network/Cable broadcasting TV shows, but not at all on films. But after seeing the improvement with FI on the RS40 (granted I have not seen the VW90 or 8500UB which sound better) I started to appreciate it more on film. Because it looks acceptable to me, all the smoothness/sharpness and none of the too realistic waxy look of the older gen FI. So I welcome the FI improvements with the Sony, Epson and Panasonic if they are as good or better than the RS40, which I am sure they are from what everyone is saying.
post #2420 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan P. View Post
I was at Lowe's hardware and seen someone in line with a couple of huge heavy duty steel shelf brackets. That's what I'll be using. I plan on using 1/2" (or thicker) plywood for the shelf. This thing needs a huge shelf to accomodate it's size plus breathing space behind it for the vents. I'll probably leave some space between the wall and the back edge of the shelf for better air flow. This is a custom job. Better make sure you mount only to the studs too. If the studs don't match up to where the brackets are going, mount plywood to the studs, then mount the brackets to the plywood, and then paint it to match the wall.

In my situation I'm in the basement so the I don't expect any sw LFE vibrations through the concrete foundation. However, I do have to re-locate my 2 back speakers. I'll be moving those off the wall and onto celing brackets so only the pj is on the back wall. I'm not using a ceiling mount for the pj because I don't want foot traffic on the floor above to cause vibrations. That's a more likely source of vibrations in my case so I need to rule that out.
If you have vibration problems, it will come through the wood studs/wood shelf, not the concrete in your floor. I have mine mounted on a shelf in a closet behind the HT and still get vibration from the brackets mounted into the wood studs........I have it at a passable level, but would not want anymore vibration then I have. I am scared to death to try and mount the projector in the HT as I dont think it could handle the pressurization/LFE with a shelf mount considering wood shelf/wood studs which soak up a lot of LFE/bass. I am running 4 subs though in a 12 x 17.5 room (fully enclosed) which is a bit more than normal maybe.
post #2421 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Wow, almost 2500 posts in less than 4 weeks, that's an average of almost 100 posts per day. WOWZA!
post #2422 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post
It may be native 720P, but 90% of the 360 games are listed as 1080P, if you look at the back of the case/artwork, they're listed as full 1080P.

Ps3 on the other hand, keep the resolution at 720P for some reason, so much for Sony touting bluray with the bigger capacity at 50GB but at 720P res, while the 360 continues to use 9GB DVDs with 1080P resolution, go figure!
The 360 upconverts though to 1080p which is what the 1080p support on the back of the box means.........native resolution for the vast majority of PS3/360 games is 720p. So, either the 360 upconverts to 1080p if you have it set that way, or if you send the RS40 a 720p native signal from the 360, the 40 will do the upconvert to 1080p........which way is better, I dont know (I would suspect the 40 with its nice video chip would do a better job at upconverting, but I dont know for sure).......some experimentation is in order I suppose Of course if the RS40 is having issues with getting a 1080i/p signal from the 360, it sounds like it would be best to set the 360 to output the game in its native 720p format and let the 40 do the upconvert.

Someone correct me if I am wrong in any of this, but that is how I understand all this to work from what I have read.
post #2423 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toe View Post
The 360 upconverts though to 1080p which is what the 1080p support on the back of the box means.........native resolution for the vast majority of PS3/360 games is 720p. So, either the 360 upconverts to 1080p if you have it set that way, or if you send the RS40 a 720p native signal from the 360, the 40 will do the upconvert to 1080p........which way is better, I dont know (I would suspect the 40 with its nice video chip would do a better job at upconverting, but I dont know for sure).......some experimentation is in order I suppose Of course if the RS40 is having issues with getting a 1080i/p signal from the 360, it sounds like it would be best to set the 360 to output the game in its native 720p format and let the 40 do the upconvert.

Someone correct me if I am wrong in any of this, but that is how I understand all this to work from what I have read.
OFT!!!

you're right, I don't think all 360, not even most, are true 1080P native, but there are a few which actually were. But I can say that almost every single multi-platform game I've tried including the latest COD:BOps looked better through the 360 over the PS3. Other games I had tested on both systems included NFS Hot Pursuit and the latest GTA, which all looked visibly better on the 360 than the PS3, even though they were all 720P natives more than likely.

I was and still am a huge proponent of the PS3 because I was what you would call Blu-ray fan boy the first two years during the format wars 2006 through 2008 and the PS3 may have single handedly declared bluray as the winning format, but I will be the first one to criticize how archaic the PS3 OS is when it comes to user friendliness and overall intuitive design. Almost every new game I bought for the PS3, required an HOUR LONG update, then another 30 min to install the update, the PS3 functions like a PC in that sense. While the xbox 360 is sooo much easier to deal with, most game updates take less than 15 seconds, and the game is up and running. Heck even the big annual UI updates for the xbox live platform take less time to update than a single game update on the PS3. Which is why over the past 2 years, I buy all of my multi-platform games on the 360, while reserving only the Sony exclusives for the PS3. The xbox 360 and xbox live platform are far more superior to the PSN, which is understandably free. But I can say that Sony has quite much to learn from Microsoft when it comes to marketing their network, when compared to how well laid out and smooth the xbox live market is.

Sorry to go off topic in a major way, and this is sad coming from a huge Sony, bluray, playstation fan too.
post #2424 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toe

The 360 upconverts though to 1080p which is what the 1080p support on the back of the box means.........native resolution for the vast majority of PS3/360 games is 720p. So, either the 360 upconverts to 1080p if you have it set that way, or if you send the RS40 a 720p native signal from the 360, the 40 will do the upconvert to 1080p........which way is better, I dont know (I would suspect the 40 with its nice video chip would do a better job at upconverting, but I dont know for sure).......some experimentation is in order I suppose Of course if the RS40 is having issues with getting a 1080i/p signal from the 360, it sounds like it would be best to set the 360 to output the game in its native 720p format and let the 40 do the upconvert.

Someone correct me if I am wrong in any of this, but that is how I understand all this to work from what I have read.
You are correct. To take it a step further a few high profile games never even made 720p they were less. I think halo reach was one but I know they have been picked apart.

I figured setting to 720p wouldn't be a big deal but I'm now stuck in trying to figure out the issue with the 1080 setting. I don't like knowing something is wrong.
post #2425 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post
you're right, I don't think all 360, not even most, are true 1080P native, but there are a few which actually were. But I can say that almost every single multi-platform game I've tried including the latest COD:BOps looked better through the 360 over the PS3. Other games I had tested on both systems included NFS Hot Pursuit and the latest GTA, which all looked visibly better on the 360 than the PS3, even though they were all 720P natives more than likely.
Thanks for the info and that is good to know. Sounds like we should opt for the 360 version when given the choice
post #2426 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post

I figured setting to 720p wouldn't be a big deal but I'm now stuck in trying to figure out the issue with the 1080 setting. I don't like knowing something is wrong.
I am the same way...........I would want to know why it was happening.... Good luck with getting it figured out, and keep us updated!
post #2427 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toe View Post
Thanks for the info and that is good to know. Sounds like we should opt for the 360 version when given the choice
As much as I hate to admit it, yes! opt for the 360 version whenever possible. Only because the PSN and Sony are years behind Xbox live and xbox Marketplace. But we all know the PS3 hardware is superior to the xbox360, but sometimes the software is what sells the inferior hardware (biggest example, not a Mac fan here, but I love the iPad and iPhone 4, because of the ease of use and the overwhelmingly rich app content).
post #2428 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjgar View Post
Damnsam.
"If only JVC can address the 720p 3D DirecTV issue with ESPN 3D, I would be a happy camper".

How about 3d movies on Direct tv?
Over on DBSTalk forum it appears there were several owners of Panasonic and Samsung 3DTVs that were reporting similiar issues back a few months ago where they were getting error messages from their Directv STBs/DVRs saying their 3DTV did not support the required 720p 3D format. There were several reports this had to do with the Directv STBs not handling EDID correctly. More recently it appears that firmware updates by Directv for their STBs/DVRs have resolved many of these issues with the Panasonic and Samsung 3DTVs as long as a AVR is not connected between the Directv box and the 3DTV. It was reported that Directv's official position is they do not support having AVRs, even those with HDMI 1.4a inputs/output, between their boxes and the 3DTV (i.e., only support a direct HDMI connection from the Directv box to the 3DTV). A lot of this has to do with the Directv boxes only having HDMI 1.3 hardware and as a result cannot fully do the HDMI exchanges necessary to fully identify the audio and video formats supported by the connected AVR and 3D display (as this was only introduced with the HDMI 1.4a standard). I suspect the bottom line is that it may take firmware updates from both JVC and Directv to correctly address these issues and perhaps the JVC projectors also have hardware limitations that can not be overcome via just a firmware update. I believe that JVC needs to be coordinating with Directv to determine how to best address this issue.
post #2429 of 9663
Quote:
Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post
Good to hear Jason, because I still wanna hit you up and get the "grocery list" so to speak to build my NAS/Bluray library, I have nearly 800 bluray movies, and it would be nice if I don't have to get up and keep switching discs. Not to mention it would look way more impressive if my entire HD library is viewable with a click of a button from a PC.
If you haven't done so yet, Sam, you should subscribe to Jason's HTPC/JVC thread. Hopefully, we're going to hammer out the solutions we all need to get our HTPCs and media servers working properly with the JVCs. There's already progress, but we have a ways to go. Unfortunately, that's almost always the case with computers.

I still think it would be a good idea to summarize the progress of that thread at the start of this thread, too. You have the slots reserved, and a one-stop solution is always attractive to owners, IMO.
post #2430 of 9663
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Jones View Post
Over on DBSTalk forum it appears there were several owners of Panasonic and Samsung 3DTVs that were reporting similiar issues back a few months ago where they were getting error messages from their Directv STBs/DVRs saying their 3DTV did not support the required 720p 3D format. There were several reports this had to do with the Directv STBs not handling EDID correctly. More recently it appears that firmware updates by Directv for their STBs/DVRs have resolved many of these issues with the Panasonic and Samsung 3DTVs as long as a AVR is not connected between the Directv box and the 3DTV. It was reported that Directv's official position is they do not support having AVRs, even those with HDMI 1.4a inputs/output, between their boxes and the 3DTV (i.e., only support a direct HDMI connection from the Directv box to the 3DTV). A lot of this has to do with the Directv boxes only have HDMI 1.3 hardware and as a result cannot fully do the HDMI exchanges necessary to fully identify the audio and video formats supported by the connected AVR and 3D display (as this was only introduced with the HDMI 1.4a standard). I suspect the bottom line is that it may take firmware updates from both JVC and Directv to correctly address these issues and perhaps the JVC also has hardware limitations that can not be addressed via just a firmware update. I believe that JVC needs to be coordinating with Directv to determine how to best address this issue.
Thanks Ron, but this whole thing with DirecTV's position towards AVRs is total BS, and for me would be enough to consider a breach of contract. They ARE THE ONES marketing the heck of out their HD video with 5.1 surround sound, how could they market that audio capability if they are asking their consumers to skip the AVR and connect directly to a flat panel TV with crap 10 watt stereo speakers? I call B.S. and as soon as I get the time this week I will call DirecTV and rip them a new one if they give me this lame excuse.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP › Official JVC RS40/X3 Owners Thread