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post #2491 of 9662
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

My dealer is sending me anew bulb to try out in case is has something to do with it. I have to run it in high lamp to get the same brightness that I had in my rs 35.

Something to do with what? Are you having this same issue as Woof Woof?
post #2492 of 9662
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

I disagree with your evaluation of A Christmas Carol. It looked really good to me - no problem with the dark scenes. I'd give it a 9/10. I've seen just about everything currently out in 3D and A Christmas Carol is right up there with HTTYD and Despicable Me, IMO. The 3D tailer for Tron looks spectacular! It should be a visual feast.

Do you have a low gain screen? This is what i have, a 1.1 gain, and this is one 3D movie that can suffer from low gain screen. I am not the only one who's had the same experience, a couple of others such as JonStatt will echo my eval of ACC-3D against low gain screens.

I sure hope that Tron looks as good as you say it does on the trailer is that something we can download on PSN or xbox live?
post #2493 of 9662
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Originally Posted by JonStatt View Post

Yes it does appear to be gone in 720p. Hmm. The whole thing is very weird and I can't see anything about the projector that could induce this.

But your video looks quite a bit worse than mine. I see a very gentle shimmering if I focus on the grey areas. I see nothing elsewhere, and I wouldn't call it flicker or wavy lines....as I say, a shimmer. But I can see it has the same "roots" as what you showed in your video, just like a lesser version of it.

But i know video cameras can either hide or exaggerate it..so perhaps you can comment how much reality looks like your video?

Have you tried Standard versus Expanded mode on the 360? What about disabling the CMD, if that is an option.

I wont get my RS40 for another week or two
post #2494 of 9662
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

Whether ESPN, DirecTV or Sony's greasing hands is the culprit, I am just surprised that JVC has yet to OFFICIALLY say someting about this, other than post a chart of compatible 3D formats. We NEED to know from JVC if they are discussing this huge compatability issue with DirecTV/Comcast/ESPN. Our voices as consumers will not nearly be as strong as the voice of one executive of engineering/R&D at JVC.

EDIT: Maybe if we can all schedule a specific time to call DirecTV's customer support at the same exact time reporting the same 720P 3D problem, maybe, Maybe that could put a dent in the situation and bring some much needed attention to it.

Can anyone comment if Verizon's FIOS has similar issues? I will be getting my RS40 in a couple of weeks.....
post #2495 of 9662
For what it is worth, I wish JVC would give us the option of using or not using a DI. I do not stand alone here. The cost would be nominal and some really spectacular blacks would be the electoral option. I realize some don't like it but any arguments as to why it shouldn't be a switchable on off feature are specious, pure and simple and its exclusion is I suspect only based on marketing considerations, a rather depressing reality from one only interested in seeing the improvement of affordable projectors.
post #2496 of 9662
The freeze up because for some reason the lamp is not firing up and the projector is remaining in start up mode and the projector won't accept commands while in the startup sequence. The plug must be pulled to reset the logic to accept a new start up command. The issue for resolution is why the bulb is refusing to fire up. I suspect a bulb or power supply issue. I have informed JVC of the issue but some of the JVC big boys necessary for resolution are hard to reach because this is CES week.
post #2497 of 9662
Just a quick heads up for the current/future RS-40 owners and subscribers to Dish Network.

I was disgusted by the picture going into the new 2011 season and did some investigating. I found out that receiver was set to 1080i. When I changed it to 720p, it made the picture 100% better and that is an understatement. My Denon 3311CI's scaler is off so its the STB only that affects the picture quality. On 1080i, I could see every pixel. They were huge and it made the IQ aweful. Now its nice and crisp. The receiver is a 622. Maybe 1080i is not blending right with another setting I may have turned on or set incorrectly on the RS-40 but in any event, I can enjoy TV again.

I take back all I said about Dish's HD picture. S**T, it's nice!
post #2498 of 9662
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

Wow, talk about polarized opinions between two professional reviewers (HighDef Digest and Bluray.com).

I will continue to side with the HDD review plus the half dozen user reviews on bluray.com. It may not have the great 3D depth as Avatar, but it's not as bad as the bluray.com reviewer makes it appear to be. Sure many of the scenes look 2D, but my point was that the 3D effects were greatly utilized throughout the movie and it did not feel cheap or gimmicky to me. My wife, myself, and a buddy of mine watched this movie in addition to My Bloody Valentine 3D on new year's eve and we were all impressed with the several scenes where the 3D effect was utilized to the max in RE-3D, which is still not common for live action movies, so it was a very pleasant experience, even if it meant that a portion of the movie was flat as far as 3D depth is concerned, which I agree on to some degree.

I am not sure if there are bad discs out there, but you're welcome to bring your disc over and compare it to mine on my RS40.

Who knows...........I would like to compare discs either at your place or mine. My experience was VERY similar to Martins at bluray.com. The same day I watched this, I also watched Avatar and Under The Sea both of which were MUCH more impressive from a depth/consistency perspective. I noticed quite a bit of ghosting as well in the white wharehouse scene at the end which I think I mentioned.
post #2499 of 9662
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

I disagree with your evaluation of A Christmas Carol. It looked really good to me - no problem with the dark scenes. I'd give it a 9/10. I've seen just about everything currently out in 3D and A Christmas Carol is right up there with HTTYD and Despicable Me, IMO. The 3D tailer for Tron looks spectacular! It should be a visual feast.

I thought A Christmas Carol looked great as well.
post #2500 of 9662
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

Do you have a low gain screen? This is what i have, a 1.1 gain, and this is one 3D movie that can suffer from low gain screen. I am not the only one who's had the same experience, a couple of others such as JonStatt will echo my eval of ACC-3D against low gain screens.

I sure hope that Tron looks as good as you say it does on the trailer is that something we can download on PSN or xbox live?

I watched it on my 1.3 gain and thought it looked great There were some dark scenes so I know what you guys are talking about, but overall I was impressed with this one.....GREAT depth and very good pop-out as well (the snow falling scenes were fantastic!)
post #2501 of 9662
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

We'll keep you updated when we know for sure what works. I won't be able to contribute too much until I get my RS40, but I think it's going to be a very valuable thread. Jason's made significant progress already.

I made more progress tonight with the Nvidia setup & the new drivers. I'll post more details in the dedicated thread, but the short story is I have 3D BD playback working with split video -> projector, audio -> AVR in both TMT 5 and PowerDVD 10.

Both apps will sync from 1080p 60hz to 24hz or 24hz (FP) and then back again to 60hz no problem.

I ran through Avatar, Legend of the Guardian, Street Dance 3D and Despicable me. Both apps played back the 3D BD with no skips, stuttering, etc. HD audio playback was perfect with quick recovery after chapter skips.

OT - My favorite 3D scene to show visitors is the first dance battle in Street Dance 3D, the soundtrack is great and the 3D is a real torture test for the JVC, basically a night club with flashing lights, fast motion, etc. You feel like your in the scene... what a blast.
post #2502 of 9662
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

Do you have a low gain screen? This is what i have, a 1.1 gain, and this is one 3D movie that can suffer from low gain screen. I am not the only one who's had the same experience, a couple of others such as JonStatt will echo my eval of ACC-3D against low gain screens.

I sure hope that Tron looks as good as you say it does on the trailer is that something we can download on PSN or xbox live?

Yes I agree, the Christmas Carol was much too dark in places. With a totally blacked out room it was "just" tolerable. However take something like resident evil which should be a tougher job, and it was absolutely perfect.

I can see part of the dimness was intentional due to the single flickering bright candle against a very dark dingy room. But overall, I think they went too far with this effect.
post #2503 of 9662
For those of you headed off to CES, could you please look out for thenew Samsung 3D Blu-ray player that does 2D to 3D conversion. It's their ultra thin (29mm, IIRC) player. If the launch is not too far off in the future, I'm thinking about adding one to the RS40, which doesn't do 2D to 3D. It's a feature I'm using less as the number of native 3D films increases, but it's still fun once in a while with programs which lend themselves to conversion.
post #2504 of 9662
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

For those of you headed off to CES, could you please look out for thenew Samsung 3D Blu-ray player that does 2D to 3D conversion. It's their ultra thin (29mm, IIRC) player. If the launch is not too far off in the future, I'm thinking about adding one to the RS40, which doesn't do 2D to 3D. It's a feature I'm using less as the number of native 3D films increases, but it's still fun once in a while with programs which lend themselves to conversion.

Is this definitely something that oppo don't have on their plans? My bad experience with Korean originated products means I stay well away from them unfortunately. Nothing against Korea or Koreans..just their products haven't worked out for me.
post #2505 of 9662
I am sorry for quoting all the previous messages again but I would like to keep these posts in quotes so the message doesn't get lost.

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Originally Posted by kutlow
3 Times now I went to turn on my rs 40 and the lens cover opens and you see a little tiny pin hole light coming out then it just does not come on all the way. Then the red light start flashing and the pj freezes up. The remote will not turn it on or off. You have to unplug the pj and wait a miniute andturn it on and it works fine. Its annoying especially when you have people over and this starts.

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Originally Posted by mtuomi
I've had the exact same thing happen maybe 5 times out of 20 I have started it up. I haven't updated the firmware yet. Not sure if it's related to the Gamma cycle issue mentioned here as it happens very soon after power on.

Anyone else had this issue?

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Originally Posted by Woof Woof
I wonder if this is an RS40 issue?

I can't quite replicate it 100% of the time either.

In most cases, the projector powers on, flashes the DILA logo and all is well.

But in a few cases now, I have had the same exact problem as the two comments above. The DILA logo doesn't pop up and there's no image. It appears that there is a blank image with the odd very faint white horizontal line (like there is no sync), but nothing works... not the the menu, not the lens shift, nada.

I found that I can press "Standby" button on the remote twice and the projector will shut down. But powering it up again (after the fan had powered down) still yields the same problem. Only way, as others mentioned, was to yank the plug out, wait a couple of minutes and try again.

Dammit.

I was concerned that the problems might have been due to the smaller confined space on my shelf (the same one that worked on the DLA-HD250/HD1 among others), so I took the projector off the shelf and set it up on the dining table with ample of space on all the sides.

I plugged everything in and powered up and the DILA image flashed and the unit operated as per normal.

I set it up to play some 3D titles from the PS3 and also some 1080p24 from a media player which is a mix of the stuff I normally play over the course of an evening.

I put the machine on for about 2-3 hours, non stop and there was not a single glitch.

I then powered off the projector for an hour or so while I was working on some conference calls.

Once the call was done, I went off to power the projector on again.

This time, the DILA logo didn't flash on, and the then projector shut itself off, then the warning lights starting flashing.

The red standby button was flashing (cooling down process) and the lamp/warning logos were blinking simultaneously in a series of 3. The manual states the following:

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Abnormal Electrical circuit

- Check that nothing is blocking the air inlets
- Check that the external temperature is normal

ACTION
Leave the unit until it cools down
After that, turn on the power again

If the warning indication is displayed again, please wait for the cooling fan stopped, then pull out the power plug from the power outlet. Then call your authorized dealer for repair.

OK, time to call the distributor.
post #2506 of 9662
New chip said to reduce ghosting in 3D, hopefully it'll be available in an AVR:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/s...-scaling-to-c/
post #2507 of 9662
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

You must not have DirecTV then, because their HD channels look spectacular on my RS40 against a low 1.1 gain 9 ft wide 16:9 screen. It looks as good as my 55" Sony LED but more than double the size

You mean he must not have FiOS TV which blows away any Sattelite or Cable lol.
post #2508 of 9662
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

For what it is worth, I wish JVC would give us the option of using or not using a DI. I do not stand alone here. The cost would be nominal and some really spectacular blacks would be the electoral option. I realize some don't like it but any arguments as to why it shouldn't be a switchable on off feature are specious, pure and simple and its exclusion is I suspect only based on marketing considerations, a rather depressing reality from one only interested in seeing the improvement of affordable projectors.

It would be great if they could implement a DI that could only be activated when there is a complete fade to black. While we're at it, an internal masking for 2.35 bars would be great too.
post #2509 of 9662
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Originally Posted by damnsam77 View Post

DUH! How could I forget such a huge feature!

Even at more than 3 times the price, the Oppo 93 is still the better BD player.

well dang, just the dough you saved gets you halfway to a 1.4 AVR!!! if thats the only consideration of course
post #2510 of 9662
Thread Starter 
This is why I mentioned early on during my first week of ownership to turn off or disable all the upconverting and IP scalling garbage on all AVRs, even the fine Denon, Elite, and Yamaha products. IP scaling is just bad news!

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Originally Posted by zbroke View Post

Just a quick heads up for the current/future RS-40 owners and subscribers to Dish Network.

I was disgusted by the picture going into the new 2011 season and did some investigating. I found out that receiver was set to 1080i. When I changed it to 720p, it made the picture 100% better and that is an understatement. My Denon 3311CI's scaler is off so its the STB only that affects the picture quality. On 1080i, I could see every pixel. They were huge and it made the IQ aweful. Now its nice and crisp. The receiver is a 622. Maybe 1080i is not blending right with another setting I may have turned on or set incorrectly on the RS-40 but in any event, I can enjoy TV again.

I take back all I said about Dish's HD picture. S**T, it's nice!
post #2511 of 9662
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mikenificent1 View Post

You mean he must not have FiOS TV which blows away any Sattelite or Cable lol.

Not all of us are so lucky mister
post #2512 of 9662
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mikenificent1 View Post

New chip said to reduce ghosting in 3D, hopefully it'll be available in an AVR:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/s...-scaling-to-c/

Hmmmm very interesting! I sure would hope that such techonology would be utilized on not only AVRs, but 3D BD Players and 3D projectors. Maybe JVC can test this chip against their inhouse 3D chip.
post #2513 of 9662
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Originally Posted by zbroke View Post

The only thing I'm a bit disapointed with is the quality of some HD content on TV. I know I have mentionned this before. It has nothing to do with the projector but I expected more from HD channels especially because they looked fine on my 50" plasma. The diluted HD signal projected on a large screen reveals the flaws and takes away from what should be an incredible experience... Something even a $100k projector could not fix... The networks won't do a darn thing about it either until displays of 80"+ are the norm I fear.

Based on my past experience, it's your HD broadcast source.

Since I have used 3 (Comcast, Dish and now DirecTV) HD broadcast services, I have to say that Dish was by far the worst picture quality of the three. Dish techs came out a half dozen times to work on the install but they admitted that "Dish over-compresses their signals (due to FCC requirements to carry more channels)" and repeatedly told me Dish was "soon to launch new satellites which would allow redistribution of their bandwidth". The overcompression was so bad there was a lot of color banding especially in dark scenes. I b*tched about the poor PQ for 2 years, then 2 weeks after canceling at the end of my contract they phone me and claim there must have been something wrong with my setup that they could easily fix. Gotta love the sales pitch vs. reality. Even Comcast's digital cable feed for non-HD channels looked better than Dish's quality.

I'll second Sam's vote - DirecTV PQ and sound is very good and they provide a few 3D broadcast channels for free with the HD service. I also have the "Whole home networking" setup which provides DVR play/record access from the other receiver boxes. If you (or anyone else) wants to sign up, PM me (or Sam) and ask for a referral code from us... it will save you $$$ in your first year on top of any other discounts.
post #2514 of 9662
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Originally Posted by Mikenificent1 View Post

New chip said to reduce ghosting in 3D, hopefully it'll be available in an AVR:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/s...-scaling-to-c/


Improvement in this area would be great.............ghosting is not a huge issue IMO, but there is definitely room for improvement. Maybe next round of JVCs will make some big strides in this area
post #2515 of 9662
I'm considering the RS40 and have a couple of questions. I currently have a 2D Panasonic AE4000 w/a 120" 2.37:1 Dalite HP screen. Having gotten used to the AE4000's auto-zoom feature for 2.35:1 content, I don't want to give it up.

So, is anyone doing a zoom to fill a 2.35:1 screen using the RS40 (so, w/o anamorphic lens)? If so, do you just paint the wall black or use masking for the overspill? Given how good black levels seem on this projector, I'm assuming the zoomed 2.35:1 effect is quite good. Or, is an anamorphic lens a strong consideration to really enjoy 3D on this projector?

Next, even though I've read this AVS 3D FAQ, I'm still somewhat confused by 3D. I do have a HDMI 1.4a receiver and a PS3 (which is HDMI 1.3a), so I'm assuming no issues with 3D Blu-ray content fed by this combo to the RS40? But, is the PS3 not doing full Blu-ray 3D resolution? Do you really need something like the Oppo BDP-93 for full resolution?
post #2516 of 9662
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

I'm considering the RS40 and have a couple of questions. I currently have a 2D Panasonic AE4000 w/a 120" 2.37:1 Dalite HP screen. Having gotten used to the AE4000's auto-zoom feature for 2.35:1 content, I don't want to give it up.

So, is anyone doing a zoom to fill a 2.35:1 screen using the RS40 (so, w/o anamorphic lens)? If so, do you just paint the wall black or use masking for the overspill? Given how good black levels seem on this projector, I'm assuming the zoomed 2.35:1 effect is quite good. Or, is an anamorphic lens a strong consideration to really enjoy 3D on this projector?

Next, even though I've read this AVS 3D FAQ, I'm still somewhat confused by 3D. I do have a HDMI 1.4a receiver and a PS3 (which is HDMI 1.3a), so I'm assuming no issues with 3D Blu-ray content fed by this combo to the RS40? But, is the PS3 not doing full Blu-ray 3D resolution? Do you really need something like the Oppo BDP-93 for full resolution?


I am zooming on my 2.35 screen. I have a flat black front wall and you cant see the projected black bars spilling over onto the wall at all. If you have a dark front wall and ceiling (if your projected area hits that high) you should be just fine.
post #2517 of 9662
Toe,
How troublesome (time consuming) is it to zoom?
I am doing it manualy with my HD1 now.
Thanks Tony
post #2518 of 9662
My 40 shipped today! Just need an emitter.
post #2519 of 9662
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Originally Posted by tjgar View Post

Toe,
How troublesome (time consuming) is it to zoom?
I am doing it manualy with my HD1 now.
Thanks Tony

I can zoom from 1.78 to 2.35/40 and get everything perfect in ~1 minute. The fully motorized lens makes this MUCH easier than doing it manually with my old RS1 lens which was a PITA honestly. There is also a grid/aspect type pattern when you zoom which helps quite a bit to get things right. I am still hoping for a lens memory feature in the next model I buy, but doing the zoom is not a big deal at all with the fully motorized lens. I used to dread it somewhat with my RS1 (part of that was having to re-pad around the lens as well which I dont have to do with the 40), but dont even think twice about it with the 40 After you do the zoom change a few times, you will get quicker at it as well (like I said, I have it down to ~1 minute).
post #2520 of 9662
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by coolplazma View Post

If you (or anyone else) wants to sign up, PM me (or Sam) and ask for a referral code from us... it will save you $$$ in your first year on top of any other discounts.

Yep, all you would need an existing DirecTV's account number of someone you know (like us ) and you will get $100 off the lowest advertised sign up package. The DirecTV referal program is the best in the industry, it actually pays off to get refered by someone. No matter what the lowest advertised deal is for new customers, you will still get $100 off on top of that.
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