Official JVC RS40/X3 Owners Thread - Page 105

Lose it? I seems like shifting it does just that shift it -- it doesn't shift it off the screen...??

It's my understanding that they have extra pixels to use for the shift, i.e. their panels are actually something like 1927 x 1083. Do you have specific information to the contrary?

Guys,

Just like quality varies greatly in our various home systems so do they vary in the commercial theaters, and especially IMAX 3D which is in most cases simply too dim and they also use in my opinion a more inferior polarization that causes cross talk if you turn your head and more ghosting...etc. vs. Dolby or RealD. Anyway, what I am getting at here is the best 3D I have seen has been bar none when I saw Avatar 3D in a theater but this was a brand new premier theater in Los Angeles using 2 Sony SRXT420 21,000 lumen 4K projectors and Dolby 3D. I go to this theater for almost all 3D movies now, and it doesn't hurt that they have assigned seating too.

No, the contrast and black level is not there but the size, resolution, and brightness more than makes up for that.....And as I have described a few pages back, I have seen the RS60 in 3D and was not blown away.

I will be glad when we can start renting these 3ds.........I just cant justify buying every one that comes out.

Has anyone heard of any rental plans for Netflix, Blockbuster, etc...?

I tried to access the service menue from the remote and could not. Sincemy pj is in a hush box and I have easy access to the rear heres what I done. I pressed up, down, right, left on te rear of the pj and then hit center on the remote and got in on the first try. I could not enter from the remote only.

Here are some pics.

I can totally respect that......... For myself though, now that I have ~10-15 good titles many of which have demo caliber scenes, chapters or even most of the film, I am more concerned with movie quality and how many times I will realistically watch these...........just like 2d, renting allows me to sort out the "1 and done" from the "must owns".......that is just me though and everyone is different. I already have a few that I would never watch again most likely. I look forward to the day when we can rent these through Netflix/Blockbuster or Redbox which who knows when or if that will happen.

There are still some 3d blus that I would like to see, but the only other one so far that I would like to own is Monsters Vs Aliens since I really like the movie, LOVE the audio and I am sure the 3d is great to some degree. Since the current release only has lossy DD audio though, I am holding out until the mainstream release which will no doubt have lossless.

Sorry to bump this but I have not seen an answer to this simple question.

There is no yellow grid..its a green one I think thats why people didn't respond to you.

SOLD!!! Thank you buyer.

I have an emitter and 2 JVC 3d glasses new in boxes for sale if anyone wants them. Prefer to sell together. PM me for info.

I have a german copy of the Dinosaurs Giants of Patagonia BD and it does have ghosting. It isn't the original master thats the issue...it just happens to hit the JVC's weaknesses. It isn't unwatchable by any means, but the ghosting will be noticed.

Chris,

2 months ago i say it and i will say it again. I know what you are talking about. I saw the RS40 and RS50. I was not impressed by the picture. The RS50 blacks and brightness are the same as the RS25.
Stay with the RS20 its a great projector.
Kriss Deering was also not impressed by the RS40. Only if you want 3D the upgrade is worth.

Hmmm, your RS20 is long gone, so you can't compare them side by side, nor can you show anybody else a side by side comparison, but you still feel that strongly about the picture just not looking right?
Convergence is ok compared to your previous RS20 but it's mostly the noise and lack of improvement over the RS20?

It is kinda funny that you say you went to the RS20 LCOS to escape DLP and yet you find the RS40 looks dlp-ish?
You're thinking of going back to DLP?
I suppose you figure it's possible the latest Sharp may be a significant improvement over the dlp look you disliked a few years ago?
Would you look for an RS25 instead?

Thanks for the info Jon. How is it otherwise as far as the 3d? Good depth? Any good pop-out moments? Is the ghosting better/worse than Grand Canyon (if you have seen that one)?

Thanks

I received my RS40 from AVS on Tuesday and though my room isn't quite finished hooked up with just the player and projector to check function and evaluate. It really mirrors the look of my new Samsung 8000 plasma. Currently the room is painted except for the screen wall which is bright white. I wanted to checkout all different screen sizes to find the sweet spot. Valspar primer sealer is an exact match for Dalite's hccw 1.1. This is the first non-DLP projector I've owned. I've had new projectors every year or two for seven years.

To start, I used the S&M disc to quickly ck convergence. I wasnt interested in calibration aspects, but rather to verify if it had any major issues. Color looked very good. Having this level of contrast performance is startling and I'm eagerly anticipating watching all my movies. Next up was 3D functionality. I had a bit of a problem figuring out how to sync the 103's to the JVC. Finally I turned on glasses with yellow lite lit at top right, then held power button until till it stopped flashing. Second they synced without issue. This procedure works everytime. I loaded up ALICE IN WONDERLAND. I watched while zooming from 8ft wide pic up to 13ft wide. The picture looked soft(wife made same comment). Despicable Me was quite the opposite. Great depth, color, sharpness. From a 3D Vantage the RS40 is equal to much better than my 58" Samsung. One thing I notice in this room/projector was the amount of reflection on the inside of the 103's. I found myself cupping the sides of my glasses to eliminate this which made the pic much better. I only watched for an hour or two. Legend of Guardians off Uverse was phenomenal. Wish the 3D demos were still available. Watching the 5 min Tron Legacy clip on Vudu was as well. Convergence was ok. Probably 1/2 pix. Better than CRT's I've had. Overall, this is easily the best picture I've had. I think this is a 5 steps forward, 2 steps back proposition for me, a keeper. Being that I've had big projector before, the height width and weight wasn't an issue. The depth is a problem. As my shelf above my rack is only thirty inches deep my Isco 3 won't fit without extending it. This is also the first time I've shelf mounted and I'm digging it. The emitter covers well sitting beside projector. Will go into more detail when everything is setup later.

Dont know if you have seen the upcoming 104s, but I am hoping they will solve this issue..............some of us (me included) are even getting reflections off our faces! Looking forward to trying out a pair of the 104s.

http://www.xpandcinema.com/news/67/

RS40 available for sale.

Honestly I wasn't bowled over by the 3d performance of this unit so I will return it to my dealer (no restocking fee) however thought I would offer it here first if anyone is chomping at the bit and I haven't scared you off.

Projector is fine, perfect condition, (note I have not put it thru the ringer with test patterns or anything) has 3 hours on it, I just can't justify having a lot of money (for me) invested in something I'm not 100% into. Just looking to get my money out of it, not jacking the price up.

PM me if interested, will ship back to dealer 1/14/11 probably so hurry if you want it.

Ok, so yes this was at CES but mind you it was in a perfectly light controlled black box and the projector was most certainly on for more than 20 minutes as they were doing demo after demo. I saw it twice as well and I think the projector was dialed in better the second time but I may have imagined this. So let me be clear that the 3D aspects in terms of no ghosting or cross talk that I noticed anyway was very good. The over all sharpness was also very good in 3D, in general all aspects were quite good except two things and they are:
1. Flicker due to shutter glasses, it is there and you notice it every now and again and this is bothersome. I prefer the passive approach due to lack of flicker, or they need to speed up the refresh so we don't see it if that is possible.

2. I am sorry but the brightness for me is simply lacking to the point that you loose that pop that 3D is, it just dulls the picture and over all experience. This is why I don't go see IMAX 3D anymore, it is jut really dim and ruins the show for me.....And if I think it is dim now, it will be terrible after 500 to 600 hours. What I don't know however, is if they had the iris shut down too much to of course show off their strong suit which is black level, I should have asked what the settings were in hind sight. Again if it is bright enough for you then good but we all have different thresholds when it comes to acceptable foot lamberts off the screen, and I for one need a little more than I saw when watching the Polar Express 3D demo on the RS60 in a fully black box room. (wish I knew if the irises were shut down....that has me wondering now)

I know you and others are really thrilled with the 3D and I am quite happy for you, really...please enjoy as I am sure many other may enjoy it too; however, I am still a bit skeptical of this whole 3D thing. I was going to buy a JVC this year regardless of 3D because I need a projector that works better in my theater than my current projector. I had seen the RS15 and RS25 in bat caves on larger screens and was so impressed by it that I decided it was time to put in a bat cave and get a new JVC. The 3D features are honestly just a disruption for me as my geeky gadget freak side of me wants to try the 3D anyway, but the practical side says I could spend the dollars better on a nice video processor with a full CMS. I know the Video processor with CMS will cost me more but I can take the $400-$500 I would spend on a new 3D Blu-ray, glasses, and emitter and it will go a long way to my video processor with full CMS. If I am honest with myself I will watch a few movies in 3D and it will be cool but after a fair amount of time it will be the occasional movie in 3D that I watch. I used to try to go see all 3D movies at the theater, but even that has wore off as most movies are just converted and I honestly don't know that 3D really adds much value to me. Movies like Avatar and now Tron are exceptions as I thought those were done well and I enjoyed the 3D aspects. Additionally, the glasses are uncomfortable, heavy on the face and nose, and simply poorly designed. I so hope somebody will take notice of the new designed shutter glasses that Samsung showed at CES and copy them. They were the most comfortable active glasses I have tried, a pleasure to wear. They are very flexible with soft touch arms and very light weight frames, with all the battery weight behind the ears in a way that didn't bother them. I would buy a pair if they worked with the JVC. Anyway, in the end I just don't know that I will use 3D enough to justify the extra expense.....but then again, that geeky must have gadget freak in me may still win...

Hi vidwiz,

If I can be nosy, do you have a projector today, what might that be? I certainly would not have gotten this projector for 3D only myself, so I sympathize with you.

The reason I'd go with the sharp is because the Sony SXRD I saw is not to my liking plus too dim, and the new JVC is not what I expected in 2-D and I haven't seen the 3-D yet so, If I must stare at a picture that looks like a DLP I may as well get a brighter PJ for the time being the Sharp with a 250W bulb and 1600 lumens instead of this JVC with a 220W lamp for the basement so the kids can at least enjoy gaming until something better comes along, they are cheap anyway..I just expected at least a similar look from the RS40 as I remember having with the RS20 but the noise is something I mentioned a while back that I can't live with & as it stands I can see it.