Official JVC RS40/X3 Owners Thread - Page 138

It does also depend on the strength of each source component. I have all "high-speed" rated cables, but at first I had problems with my HTPC using 6ft-avr-30ft not displaying. Then my DirecTV HR24 using 6ft-avr-35ft (no HTPC either). Switching the long end to a BJ Series-1 40ft works with all my sources. Just sayin.

You just never know. Maybe the BJ cable is why my DTV ESPN 3D works better than anybody elses without need to switch cables around?! lol
Just kidding.

BTW, thanks to DirecTV & Fox, this Superbowl weekend I resort to using an antenna and 75ft coax run through the house. The local Fox affiliate pulled the plug with DTV. Nice. At least it's usually a great OOTA HD signal & sound. If it's windy all bets are off.

Try fiber optic HDMI

The results are usually the other way around for me (when my wife is involved that is!)

Yeah... and you're also the one who suggested we split up the "owners" thread into two because the 50/60 would be so different! Yet we rarely post there anymore! Just sayin'

That is what I thought, which is why I thought it to be odd that he is seeing this. Plus, since he is only seeing the lines in one direction at a time, it doesn't really sound like moire.

-Sean

I talked with Chris from Seymour today a couple of times via email. He wants me to first try the paper trick, then test without the lens in place. Chris doesn't really know what it could be. I will do some minor testing tonight.

I agree that the "moire"look I am seeing just looks like some kind of interference or digital noise, a pattern though. I just don't know what is causing it......

I am still having trouble getting into the service menu up, down, right, left, ok?

Also, there was a screen chart posted on one of the JVC threads, does anyone know where that would be located?

What happens to the pattern when you change the size (not the focus) of the image. I know this probably isn't practical in the long run, but try reducing the size of the projected image, and see if those horizontal lines disappear. If they do disappear, the screen material is most likely the culprit.

Ok,I finally got around to trouble shooting a little tonight.

1. Banding. It goes away with a piece of paper taped to the screen,so there is some kind of "interference"with the pattern of the Seymour AT screen. I will contact Chris and make sure that he is aware of the problem. I don't know if it is my particular install, projector or what. I tried moving the Oppo player and connecting with a shorter cable, removing the ISCO II lens. Nothing got rid of it....

2. 3D works with my existing cable, I just have to power on JVC first, AV7005 and then the Oppo 93 last. Bingo 3D.

3. I still can't get the Harmony 1000 to power on the projector correctly. I used the remote to "learn" the on and standby commands tonight and still couldn't get it to work.

That is it , long night.....

P.S. Sorry I forgot to add, I took over 115 pictures trying to get a good shot of the "effect" and couldn't.....

I just got my RS40 today but I am very disappointed with the convergence. No pixel adjustment will make it go away - all three colors are ~1/2 a pixel away from each other. What should I do ... is it as bad as I think it is ?

(update: two more pics)

Folks,

First of all, Damnsam77, Thank you. Purely based on what has been said in this thread i made the leap to the RS-40. Incredible!! Even my dis-approving better half was impressed, 'thats clearer than the cinema!'

But i hope i can delve into your now extensive knowledge of this PJ.

2D is pristine. Static 3D images look amazing, but motion in 3D is so jittery ( not sure of the correct term) it's like watching an acid trip!

I have had others watch 3D too, in case it was just my eyes playing games. Everyone sees the same 'effect'. It looks like seeing multiple frames at the same time, the faster the motion, the more extensive the problem.
I am using the JVC 3D glasses. I have a second pair on order in case their the issue

How is it in the center of the screen compared to the outer parts?

I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. But it looks like the 3D glasses are not turned on.

A. Is the emitter plugged in and aimed at the screen and firing towards the viewers. Try pulling the emitter till it's in front of yr glasses and check again. The JVC glasses are supposed to power up automatically when the IR emitter powers up. Ps u did buy the emitter, right?

B. There's a small tab of paper in the glasses when it comes from the factory so the battery doesn't discharge or leak. Make sure you pull off that tab so the glasses can be powered.

Woof Woof,

Everything appears to be running. I do have the emitter. I have positioned this in multiple positions with no change.
The paper tab on the battery is removed. As i say, when watching a 3D movie, any scenes with minimal motion show in perfect 3D.

Scenes with motion in them are showing ridiculous amount of crosstalk.

I have used 3DTV before so i know this is not just my 'interpretation' of the image.

Finally...my first projector ( RS40 ) will be here next week. I just want to let everyone know that i'm using the paint on screen 3DHD paint for a 110" screen. My first screen was a DIY Scorpion N8 paint but i kept ending up with roller marks so i ordered the 3DHD paint to see how it will look. So i think im the first to have a painted screen with this projector. My gear includes B&W 685 HT package with SVS pb12 nsd sub, Marantz AV7005 , Emotiva UPA-7 , Oppo BDP-93 , and a PS3 . I going to try to take pictures or maybe a video when it arrives .

What 3D source are you using? I've pretty much had no ghosting with properly configured PS3 (correct screen size etc.) using frame-packed 3D from Blu-Ray. However, I did a test yesterday with SbS vid from a non 3D aware Media Player (Tvix 6600) and woohoo, enter a stupid amount of crosstalk in moving scenes. Dunno if it was the vid or the fact that the Player was totally unaware of 3D/screen size but it definately showed a huge amount of crosstalk.

Noticed IMO interesting thing regarding SbS with my Radiance XS; one more thing that any Radiance will do to help us JVC DLA-X owners. Latest Radiance Software can be Remote macroed to SbS mode (I'm using a Pronto 9400) and it sets outbound HDMI flags correctly so that I needed to do nothing in the JVC menu to make SbS work. Just leave 3D mode to "auto" and Radiance will do the rest. I believe Lumagen team has some automatic SbS identification code in place too and maybe they will improve it in the future. Having to go to JVC Menu to enable SbS is IMO quite annoying.

Looks like a shift up of one for green and one left for blue would be the best compromise, but maybe they shift too much.

(Or the equivalent would be right one for red and blue down one).

As WiFi-Spy asked: is the convergence uniform over the whole screen? And does it change over the course of an hour warm up? Keep in mind folks have observed drifting convergence over many hours of PJ usage (40-100 hrs).

shinksma

Are you getting it from AVS? If so, check the "anticipation" thread.

Ok that was funny!

Pawstar,

Are those screens PJ generated? Or on a disc?

Thank you

Anyone seeing some ghosting in the background on Despicable Me 3D Blur-ray?
I am playing the disc with my PS3 fat 60GB connected to the RS40 and this is the only fame packed source (all my other 3D blu-rays show almost no ghosting) which has a lot of ghosting in the background and on the animated characters...Same to you?

Looks like my plans to join the owners party were premature The promised shipment to AVS has been "re-promised" to a later date.

None of the BR 3D I have watched had LOTS of ghosting. A few scenes here and there but nothing distracting. That includes Despicable Me which is one of my favorites... Using OPPO 93.

You must learn the Power On command into your Harmony in RAW mode (not the regular leaning mode). To learn in RAW mode, using the Harmony PC software go to the the "Device" page then for your JVC projector click on "Learn IR", then click on the button at the bottom of the page (just next to "Done") for "Custom", and finally for the Power On command click on "Learn RAW". Try that, it works.

It looks within the tolerance that we "believe" JVC roughly work on, which is within 0.5 in the centre, and "about" 1 pixel at the edges. If that is the centre then you are just within that. If that screenshot is a corner, then that is actually not bad! I realise this may fall short of your own personal expectations however....

How many hours on your lamp? Are those images before or after 20 min of warm up ?

Actually I noticed convergence continues to settle albeit at a much slower rate all the way up to about 45 minutes. Definitely evaluate convergence on a fully warmed up unit.

Diagonal misconvergence looks worse than one that is only vertical or horizontal even though its still only out by half a pixel. This is because on a grid pattern, it will show as a misalignment in both axis even though its actually a single misalignment.

It was fairly consistent/uniform across the whole screen. I haven't dialed in any lens shift yet. I'll have a more detailed look this evening to see exactly how much the center differs from the edge.


I'll try your suggestion.


First two are from the AVS test disk (projected from a computer) and the last one is the internal calibration image from the service menu.


It was about midway from the center to the lower right corner. By my estimate its 0.5 (which would explain why the pixel shift is not really working for me). Looks like I am just at the edge of their QC standard on all three colors. Boo!


2-3 hours of lamp life. The projector just came yesterday, I fired it up and gah, I see the color outlines on the menu text. The projector did sit for at least 6 hours at room temperature sealed inside the box before it was first fired up.