Here is the skinny, i am hooked on playing Call of Duty Black Ops in 3D on the RS40 now, after several configurations were made on the Denon AVR4311 and the RS40.
Yesterday I criticized the sub par quality of playing Blackops 3D on the xbox360 via the RS40. And from a 1-to-10 scale, i would have given it a 5. Now and are all the changes made, its an easy 8 or 8.5/10. Simply put, playing 3D Black Ops on my RS40 now Rocks!!!There is some minor ghosting here and there while playing BlackOps 3D on the RS40, but its less than what i had experienced on my Sony 55HX800. There isn't a TV out there that can play this 3D game flawlessly without any hints of ghostin, and luckily the RS40 is on the minimal end. Also unless I am not a picky hardcore gamer, I cannot notice any of this "gaming lag" i press a the Right trigger and it fires, i move right left up and down and it responds normally, nothing out of the ordinary
So here is how it went down. While watching 2D HD DirecTV programming and it just didn't look right to me, there was too much noise, and the picture was decent but not excellent. Then i realized that more than likely up conversion and I/P scaling was enabled on every source input on the AVR4311 (Oppo93, DirecTV, PS3, HTPC...and wait for it...xbox3-f-in-60!!!!)
So i started going through EACH source mentioned above and i was like, what are the chances this aholes have all this upconverting overprocessing garbage enabled by default, sure enough all sources were being upconverted with I/p scaling turned on for some, and video mode set to Auto (instead of movie which is the purest video mode with no AVR processing, there is also gaming mode to process "faster" but also make everything look crappy in 3d)
So i turned off the video up conversion which automatically canceled the I/P scaling, and i changed the video mode from Auto to Movie for every source listed above, even the PS3 and Xbox360.
Then I turned on the xbox360 and fired up some 3D black ops, after making several Adjustments in the picture settings on the RS40, and low and behold the game (black ops) in 3D looks fantastic! Its still not as sharp and clean as the Sony because the Sony is only displaying the 720p 3D game a 55" TV, versus the RS40 which is projecting more than twice the size. So the 720p resolution will still take a hit, but i think the adjustment i made by disabling all the AVRs internal video processing and uupconverting and making the picture setting changes on the RS40 made this game Infinitly more enjoyable and better looking in 3D.
So if i had to rate my 3D Blackops experience as a 5/10 yesterday it's definitely an an 8 or maybe 8.5/10 now. So as i said in the title i will gladly eat the delicious crow if proving myself wrong means 3D gaming will look awesome on the RS40. This is one of this times were i am glad to be wrong, and I will sincerely apologize to JVC if i were too quick in critiicizing them 3D gaming display abilities , the folks are JVC are impressing me once again!
But now i have another bone to pick with the folks at Denon!!! Are you serious Denon? Up converting every single HDMI source i plugged in? Screw you Denon! First you give me blue rain while playing The Dark Knight, a reference disc, on a perfectly good Oppo blurry player and JVC projector, so i was pucky enough finger my Denon 4311 replaced with a new working one, and now this? You have now used up your second strike, one more strike and you are out! After 15 years of being a faithful Denon fan, i am actually consider moving on to other brands within the pricerange and what used to be a great Denon QC-Ed products.So in connclusion boys and girls, 3D gaming will still rock your socks off on the RS40! Just make sure to do the following on your AVR:
- Turn off or disable video up conversion because in most cases it's pure garbage
- Make sure source input is set to HDMI, not auto
- Switch video mode to "Movie" or the purest non processed video mode (not Auto or Gaming or any other mode)
- Also note that even the Gaming video mode makes Games look worse (so again stick with movie/film/pure modes which indicate zero processing and a pure pass through signal from the source to the display)
- Turn off any I/P scali on your sources
Here are the changes i made on the RS40, and please consider these recommendations, i know there are some serious videophiles here, but this is about gaming and what tickles your fancy (not about film purism or what the director intended)Here ae the changes made on the RS40 for optimized 3D gaming:
- Select 3D preset
- Brigthness: 0
- Contrast: 5
- Tint: 2 (more for Blackops since there is so much green and tree scenery)
- Sharpness: 30 (not a fan of sharpness but it really helped in Blackops 3D)
- Detail : 30 (again same as above, not a big fan, but it really helped in BO 3D)
- Color: 30 (this is a personal preference and it made the game's colors tones and 3D pop and look more like what i have experiences on the Sony 55HX800)
- Gamma: B3D
- Color space: Wide 1
- Temp: 8500k
- Aperture: -5
Again, if you agree to disagree thats cool, but please don't chastise my color and detail/sharpness settings, these primarily apply to what i thought looked best for BlackOps 3D. This projector settings do not apply to BlackOps 2D, other games, bluray movies or DirecTV/Cable broadcast. It took me 3 hours of 3D game play to find the perfect mix of configurations IMHO, so I hope you try it before you knock it
and if other configuration works better for 3D gaming please share if with everyone here.
One other note i wanted to add, is that after all the changes i made i did try to connect the xbox360 directly to the RS40, but i did not notice any PQ improvements over going through the AVR, just be sure to disable all the stuff i mentioned above in th receiver.