Official JVC RS40/X3 Owners Thread - Page 175

Originally Posted by LarryChanin


Hi Chris,

Thank you for your continued participation in this thread.

Are you in a position to measure the lumen output of those projectors that you sample, particularly after more than 100 hours of usage? Or are you in the same boat as most of us in having to "eyeball" it?

In addition to the few reports we have of measured low lumen output, which may be a lamp issue, I have read one troubling report on a RS50 which appears to go beyond the lamp.

I of course have no way of knowing whether Jon's situation is confined to an isolated projector, or indicative of a more fundamental design issue which manifests itself after calibration. It might explain why all of the measured output values are low following a calibration and after 100 hours of usage.

Are you at liberty to discuss the quality control measures in place to monitor lumen output before and after calibration? I can appreciate why catching a lumen problem following calibration would be a challenge to uncover.

Yes, I am waiting to be contacted by a local dealer for a demo.

Larry

Originally Posted by jbolt

Is anybody planning to try out one of the new Panasonic DMP-BDT110, DMP-BDT210, or DMP-BDT310 Blu-ray players? Just curious how well the 3D Effect Controller and the 2d to 3d conversion will work on the JVC projectors. I already have a PS3 for 3D but am thinking about getting a 3D Blu-ray player as well. You can also get the free Avatar 3D Blu-ray with these players. I could be the guinea pig a buy one, but I usually like to read reviews first.

Originally Posted by coolplazma

I already have the Panasonic BDT100 and my only complaint is that it become totally blinded by the IR emitter when the PJ is in 3D mode. However, most all my components have this same problem so it isn't completely unique to this player. Otherwise, the BDT100 is quick and plays anything I've thrown at it.

I have the BDT110 on order, so should be able to provide further review within week. Incredible player for the price of $128... DLNA, 2D->3D conversion, 3D depth adjust, video streaming services, etc. Some people will be looking for more HDMI ports (found on the 3xx series for $50 more) and V-stretch for anamorphic viewing (go Oppo player, or Lumagen Mini).

BTW, the Panasonic Avatar 3D release is the regular version... does not include the extra 16 minutes that the 2D Collector's edition has. No biggie, I just prefer extended editions that are not trimmed to better fit the ADD crowd. Zoe is another dimension for sure.

Hurry before Avatar 2 comes out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dIOw2sffHI

Originally Posted by nobuyersremorse

Just put my name on the waiting list for this projector! Couple of questions if anyone could help. I am going to end up with about a 110" screen with about a 11' throw. Was planning on a hp screen but should I look at somthing with less gain with such a short throw to lower black levels? It will be a batcave (flat dark brown walls and only window sealed). Although 3D is not a priority, I would like it to look good when I do watch it. I will be seating somewhere around 8-9' (we'll see). Also I guess it is time to start looking towards the sound side. Although I have been reading the forums here for years I have never jumped to the audio side... Where should I start? It will be in a small 12X12 room and just looking for a starting place. How much should I expect to spend on speakers. Thank you for your help. Brandon

Originally Posted by afss

No news on JVC site yet... Anybody knows if the new firmware is to be made public today ?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Zenjabil

On 3 occasions last night, my RS40 turned itself on from standby, with no apparent provocation from the JVC remote. That said, it happened at the same time I was fiddling with the remote for my LG BH200 dual format player, though not in a repeatable manner (couldn't figure out quite which keys activated power on). I rarely use the LG BH200, so this isn't a major concern, but thought I'd mention this to others.

Originally Posted by Geof

We'll only know that when it's made available. If it's not available today that's it's not ready yet. IMO, getting it right is better than getting it sooner.

Originally Posted by GaryB_UK

The software should be available later today. It will be on the UK site by Monday.

The changes are:

DLA-X3/RS40

1. Improve HDMI Communication issues with some Blu-ray players and receivers.
2. Fix lens shift bug in ceiling mount mode.

DLA-X7/X9/RS50/RS60

1. Improve HDMI Communication issues with some Blu-ray players and receivers.
2. Fix lens shift bug in ceiling mount mode.
3. Improve smoothness of Colour Management adjustment.
4. Fix lock up when going from 2D-3D, 3D-2D.

Originally Posted by ohotos

So it looks like it's not addressing the lock-up issues and low lumen issues that some RS40 owners were reporting. Wondering if it is still worth updating to this when I get mine next week, maybe for possible HDMI handshake issues?

Originally Posted by GaryB_UK

3. Improve smoothness of Colour Management adjustment.

Originally Posted by GaryB_UK
3. Improve smoothness of Colour Management adjustment.

Originally Posted by Nitemage

I'm having an issue shutting the system down with a harmony one remote. When I turn everything off, the projector prompts for a second command to shutdown. The remote appears to be sending the shutdown command twice but it does not seem to be working. I have upped all of the various interkey timing but can not get it to shutdown without having to pull out its own remote.

Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to fix this?

Thanks,
Nitemage

Originally Posted by GaryB_UK

3. Improve smoothness of Colour Management adjustment.

Originally Posted by Nitemage

I'm having an issue shutting the system down with a harmony one remote. When I turn everything off, the projector prompts for a second command to shutdown. The remote appears to be sending the shutdown command twice but it does not seem to be working. I have upped all of the various interkey timing but can not get it to shutdown without having to pull out its own remote.

Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to fix this?

Thanks,
Nitemage

Originally Posted by Nitemage

I'm having an issue shutting the system down with a harmony one remote. When I turn everything off, the projector prompts for a second command to shutdown. The remote appears to be sending the shutdown command twice but it does not seem to be working. I have upped all of the various interkey timing but can not get it to shutdown without having to pull out its own remote.

Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to fix this?

Thanks,
Nitemage

Originally Posted by krichter1

I forgot to mention that some people have reported the Panasonic packaged disc also works on the PS3 but I have no confirmation of that.

Originally Posted by Shagg


Is there a way within the Blu-ray spec to make a disc only compatible with one brand of player? I didn't think so, from what little I know.

Originally Posted by Shagg

Is there a way within the Blu-ray spec to make a disc only compatible with one brand of player? I didn't think so, from what little I know.

Originally Posted by shinksma

Within the spec, I would expect no. But just as Sony released "CDs" that were not compliant with the redbook spec, it is very likely that one could produce disks that otherwise seem to be BDs but violate the spec and work only on specific machines.

Originally Posted by Geof

Gary and/or Chris,
When you say it improves the smoothness of the CMS what exactly does this mean? Does it correct the blanking during adjustment? Does it correct saturation tracking errors when more than a minimal amount of correction is dialed in?

Like Lawguy, I'm curious when the other CMS issues will be addressed.

Originally Posted by Ron Jones

I just did some measurements on my RS40 with about 50 hours on the lamp. With the projector set to Natural mode, Standard color space, 6500K Color Temp, Normal gamma and High lamp mode. I used the AVS HD calibration disc to set the black level and white level with the projector set HDMI input mode for Super White. For White level I set it to display above video standard level 235 but not all the way to 255 (bars on test pattern visible up to about level 245). This results in the setting for brightness (black level) of +2 and the setting for contrast (white level) of +10.

I used the ANSI method by taking measurements for lux at 9 points (3 X 3 grid) and averaged the lux measurements to calculate the lumens. The result was 869 lumens. The max. measured lux was at directly in front of the screen center and the drop near the screen corners was about 12%. Since I am waiting until I have 100 hours to do a full calibration, it will be a little longer before I do a set of measurements for the calibrated lumens. However, my above measurement will provide a reference point that I can use to track lamp dimming over time.

Originally Posted by zombie10k


Ron, what is your throw for this measurement? Can you try JonStatt's method of setting color temp to 8500k, lamp high, iris open and turn off the color profile? This should be the most lumens the projector is capable of throwing.

The best I can muster in this mode on the RS50 is a weak 786 lumens at midrange throw. turn on THX mode or my calibrated D65 setting and the lumens plummet even further. I have a replacement lamp that just arrived from JVC and will be testing it this weekend.

as you might already know, several of us are observing low lumen output on the RS50/60 and Art from www.projectorreviews.com had the same low lumen issue with an RS60 that JVC sent him, they couldn't get more than 500 lumens in any color setting mode.

thanks!