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post #7681 of 9680
9/5/11 at 2:18pm
I've used it quite a bit since the lock up and nothing since. Still getting a great picture with about 150hrs.
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post #7682 of 9680
9/5/11 at 3:55pm
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I don't see anything post so.....

D* is now sending ESPN 3D in 1080i SbS format. It is now watchable.

S~

Confirmed...Able to watch ESPN 3D on my JVC X3.
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post #7683 of 9680
9/5/11 at 4:24pm
Is there any way to get Directv channel 104 on the RS40--I'm going through a Yamaha RX-V667.
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post #7684 of 9680
9/5/11 at 4:42pm
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Is there any way to get Directv channel 104 on the RS40--I'm going through a Yamaha RX-V667.

104 is broadcast in 1080p sbs which is an optional format and not supported by the JVC. Mandatory format is 1080p t/b or frame packed.

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post #7685 of 9680
9/5/11 at 4:46pm
Does the rs40 have better motion then the rs10?

I'm asking with all the frame interpolation off. Or is it about the same?

Aka, how close is it to a high end DLP today?

( I have the Samsung A900B)
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post #7686 of 9680
9/6/11 at 4:26pm
I needs to knows.
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post #7687 of 9680
9/6/11 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

Does the rs40 have better motion then the rs10?

I'm asking with all the frame interpolation off. Or is it about the same?

Aka, how close is it to a high end DLP today?

( I have the Samsung A900B)

Oh, sorry... misunderstood the question.
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post #7688 of 9680
9/6/11 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I needs to knows.

Quite a bit of info on the Sony VPL-VW95ES (check out the existing thread of CEDIA rumors and the VW95 thread from the IFA show that just wrapped up in Berlin, Germany (where they were demo'ing the VW95). As for the new JVC models nothing official has been released, but there are a few leaks or rumors claiming lens memory and pseudo 4K resolution possibly as the replacment for the current RS60 and X9 models (maybe RS50 and X7 replacements also). However, these rumors may be true or not. The official JVC information so far only confirms there are 5 new models (one a 4K model) and there will be a press event at 8am this Thursday at CEDIA where the new model lineup will be presented.
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post #7689 of 9680
9/6/11 at 6:47pm
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Quite a bit of info on the Sony VPL-VW95ES (check out the existing thread of CEDIA rumors and the VW95 thread from the IFA show that just wrapped up in Berlin, Germany (where they were demo'ing the VW95). As for the new JVC models nothing official has been released, but there are a few leaks or rumors claiming lens memory and pseudo 4K resolution possibly as the replacment for the current RS60 and X9 models (maybe RS50 and X7 replacements also). However, these rumors may be true or not. The official JVC information so far only confirms there are 5 new models (one a 4K model) and there will be a press event at 8am this Thursday at CEDIA where the new model lineup will be presented.

thank you for the response.
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post #7690 of 9680
9/6/11 at 8:14pm
I'm at 920 hours of total use and about to have to replace my second bulb on my 6 month old rs40.

Each bulb hit 400 hours and then had a quick downward spiral to being so dim as to be unusable within the next 50 hours. The last one actually blew up after I put in 3d for just about 3 hours to get some more lumens.

I can't (read:won't) buy a $400 bulb every 3 months to watch tv, so I'm not sure what the solution wil be...
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post #7691 of 9680
9/6/11 at 8:39pm
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Originally Posted by Ebanks View Post

I'm at 920 hours of total use and about to have to replace my second bulb on my 6 month old rs40.

Each bulb hit 400 hours and then had a quick downward spiral to being so dim as to be unusable within the next 50 hours. The last one actually blew up after I put in 3d for just about 3 hours to get some more lumens.

I can't (read:won't) buy a $400 bulb every 3 months to watch tv, so I'm not sure what the solution wil be...

sell it and buy the next generation. Thats what I am doing.
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post #7692 of 9680
9/6/11 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

sell it and buy the next generation. Thats what I am doing.

Is there any indication this has even been addressed on the new ones?
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post #7693 of 9680
9/6/11 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by Ebanks View Post

I'm at 920 hours of total use and about to have to replace my second bulb on my 6 month old rs40.

Each bulb hit 400 hours and then had a quick downward spiral to being so dim as to be unusable within the next 50 hours. The last one actually blew up after I put in 3d for just about 3 hours to get some more lumens.

I can't (read:won't) buy a $400 bulb every 3 months to watch tv, so I'm not sure what the solution wil be...

My 400 hour lamp in my RS50 is below 300 lumens, pretty much at the end of it's lifespan. Of course it doesn't happen to everyone, but this was a hot topic (not in a good way) for most of the 2011's models production run so far. Will they fix it in 2012? IMO, it should be the first thought on anyones mind considering the new models.

You can sell it now before the new models hit, or if you like the overal IQ for movies and 3D, then keep it and pick up a 2nd projector for watching TV. I use one of the new LED 720P projectors for watching TV and never have to worry about the hours. Then I 'save' the JVC for critical BD viewing.

Maybe JVC should start sending out inexpensive LED projectors instead of replacement lamps.
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post #7694 of 9680
9/6/11 at 9:02pm
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Is there any indication this has even been addressed on the new ones?

Not sure but the new sony's are looking nice.
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post #7695 of 9680
9/6/11 at 10:05pm
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Maybe JVC should start sending out inexpensive LED projectors instead of replacement lamps.

That would be too good to be true
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post #7696 of 9680
9/7/11 at 8:07am
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That would be too good to be true

Even if JVC came out with a LED pj tomorrow I wouldn't bite. Not on a first gen product. I'd keep my X3 until all the bugs shake out of the LED. The lamp issue is a pain for sure, but it's something that can be replaced by anyone that can operate a screwdriver. Not so sure if a LED will be like that.
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post #7697 of 9680
9/7/11 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Ebanks View Post
I'm at 920 hours of total use and about to have to replace my second bulb on my 6 month old rs40.

Each bulb hit 400 hours and then had a quick downward spiral to being so dim as to be unusable within the next 50 hours. The last one actually blew up after I put in 3d for just about 3 hours to get some more lumens.

I can't (read:won't) buy a $400 bulb every 3 months to watch tv, so I'm not sure what the solution wil be...
I talked about this earlier in the thread several weeks back, but I just don't understand how some of you guys burn through so many hours so quickly. 400 hours is equivalent to almost 17 straight days of usage. To go through that in 3 months, you'd have to run the projector for a minimum of 5 1/2 hours a day every single day.
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post #7698 of 9680
9/7/11 at 10:05am
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I talked about this earlier in the thread several weeks back, but I just don't understand how some of you guys burn through so many hours so quickly. 400 hours is equivalent to almost 17 straight days of usage. To go through that in 3 months, you'd have to run the projector for a minimum of 5 1/2 hours a day every single day.
While this may be true, it begs the question of a very short lived bulb.
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post #7699 of 9680
9/7/11 at 12:15pm
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I talked about this earlier in the thread several weeks back, but I just don't understand how some of you guys burn through so many hours so quickly. 400 hours is equivalent to almost 17 straight days of usage. To go through that in 3 months, you'd have to run the projector for a minimum of 5 1/2 hours a day every single day.
I dont think the counter on the pj counts full time. In other words you may have it on for 10 miniutes and it counts it as an hour. Thats the only explanation other than maybe these people are living with it on all the time.
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9/7/11 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by Ebanks View Post

I'm at 920 hours of total use and about to have to replace my second bulb on my 6 month old rs40.

Each bulb hit 400 hours and then had a quick downward spiral to being so dim as to be unusable within the next 50 hours. The last one actually blew up after I put in 3d for just about 3 hours to get some more lumens.

I can't (read:won't) buy a $400 bulb every 3 months to watch tv, so I'm not sure what the solution wil be...

I just ordered a bare lamp from http://www.myprojectorlamps.com for around 62% of the figure you quoted for the complete lamp assembly. If it works, it would take some pain out of the relamping process.

Edited to add:
Got the bare lamp today and it is rated at only 200W, the connection scheme is different and all the numbers are different and it looks poorly made even by comparison to the original lamp! Caveat Emptor!

I am not displeased with the lamp life I got: 1044 hours (received in February) and aperture was still only opened to level 9 until one session where the rapid dimming began and then the next session, got the blinking orange emergency light, indicating lamp failure.

I run long useage sessions, which helps preserve lamp life BUT on the other hand, my room typically runs 86 degrees when the system is running, all summer long and only on the day when the dimming began did I turn the lamp to high to get the higher fan speed.

In my opinion, if there is going to be an issue with first generation projector designs, I would prefer it be something consumable and replaceable at will, than something that unavoidably mars the image quality or makes the system's performance inconsistent or less than its true capability.

In the current case, as long as you have a spare lamp (bare or complete), at most you have a 5 minute interruption in the presentation while you swap lamps and then you are back to great IQ/PQ! (Of course, if you have the proj ceiling mounted, it might take 20 minutes)

My loyalty to the JVC DILA architecture is strictly due to the film-like quality of the image it throws. As long as it does that one function in an exemplary manner, any other flaws are easily forgivable.
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post #7701 of 9680
9/7/11 at 3:03pm
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I just ordered a bare lamp from http://www.myprojectorlamps.com for around 62% of the figure you quoted for the complete lamp assembly. If it works, it would take some pain out of the relamping process.

Myself and several others in the RS50 thread have contacted myprojectorlamps.com recently. They think they are selling the RS40/RS50/RS60 replacement, but the tech rep sent me photos of the Philips 200Watt lamp from the 2010 models. They didn't have an answer when I told them that is not the lamp that belongs in the 2011 models. I even sent them photos of my RS50 lamp and they didn't recognize it.

When you get the lamp, please post photos or please let us know if this is a true replacement. I would buy the bare lamp in a second and just use the same housing. The 400+ price on the OEM JVC lamp is absurd when the new Sony's are nearly 1/2 that amount.
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post #7702 of 9680
9/7/11 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by robobob View Post

I just ordered a bare lamp from http://www.myprojectorlamps.com for around 62% of the figure you quoted for the complete lamp assembly. If it works, it would take some pain out of the relamping process.

Hi Bob,

I will be very interested in hearing how things turn out. I sincerely hope this bare lamp works, but Jason (zombie10k) posted a photo of it earlier and the markings on the lamp were of a 200W Philips lamp instead of 220W.

I am guessing that the supplier of the lamps to myprojectorlamps.com was confused and supplied a bare lamp for the previous JVC models which were 200W Philips lamps.

It would be useful if you could post side-by-side comparison photos of your original lamp and the bare replacement.

Thanks.

Larry

EDIT: I see Jason beat me to it.
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post #7703 of 9680
9/7/11 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

Not sure but the new sony's are looking nice.

And the very next day after my post the bulb blew up just like the last one. I didn't even put this one in 3D mode to increase brightness.

Great.
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post #7704 of 9680
9/7/11 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by robobob View Post

I just ordered a bare lamp from http://www.myprojectorlamps.com for around 62% of the figure you quoted for the complete lamp assembly. If it works, it would take some pain out of the relamping process.

I am not displeased with the lamp life I got: 1044 hours (received in February) and aperture was still only opened to level 9 until one session where the rapid dimming began and then the next session, got the blinking orange emergency light, indicating lamp failure.

I run long useage sessions, which helps preserve lamp life BUT on the other hand, my room typically runs 86 degrees when the system is running, all summer long and only on the day when the dimming began did I turn the lamp to high to get the higher fan speed.

In my opinion, if there is going to be an issue with first generation projector designs, I would prefer it be something consumable and replaceable at will, than something that unavoidably mars the image quality or makes the system's performance inconsistent or less than its true capability.

In the current case, as long as you have a spare lamp (bare or complete), at most you have a 5 minute interruption in the presentation while you swap lamps and then you are back to great IQ/PQ! (Of course, if you have the proj ceiling mounted, it might take 20 minutes)

My loyalty to the JVC DILA architecture is strictly due to the film-like quality of the image it throws. As long as it does that one function in an exemplary manner, any other flaws are easily forgivable.



If I was getting 1000 hours out of it I wouldn't be so upset.... 2nd bulb in a row to go less than 500 hours and actually blowing up in the projector though is quite a bit different, which is the situation I'm in.
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post #7705 of 9680
9/7/11 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Myself and several others in the RS50 thread have contacted myprojectorlamps.com recently. They think they are selling the RS40/RS50/RS60 replacement, but the tech rep sent me photos of the Philips 200Watt lamp from the 2010 models. They didn't have an answer when I told them that is not the lamp that belongs in the 2011 models. I even sent them photos of my RS50 lamp and they didn't recognize it.

When you get the lamp, please post photos or please let us know if this is a true replacement. I would buy the bare lamp in a second and just use the same housing. The 400+ price on the OEM JVC lamp is absurd when the new Sony's are nearly 1/2 that amount.

$#$&#*%&

I had a dim recollection (pun intended!) that someone on this thread had already tried sourcing from www.myprojectorlamps.com but I was in a rush, since the failure occured over Labor day weekend and atypically, I did NOT have a spare on hand.

Got the bare lamp today and it is rated at only 200W, the connection scheme is different and all the numbers are different and it looks poorly made even by comparison to the original lamp!

Rolled the dice and lost (out the overnight shipping cost at minimum)

I have noticed a pattern of bogus, ethically-challenged web sites located in Florida over the years and usually avoid ANY Florida-based sites.

Never let your addiction blind you!
Time to call AVS for a complete lamp....
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post #7706 of 9680
9/8/11 at 5:00am
I really love my RS 40, but one thing that I think is becoming clear is that it's probably NOT a good choice for folks who watch a lot of TV on it.

I'm sure that's how some folks rack up the hours so fast. Me, I'm only watching movies on weekends. I had guesstimated that I put around 500 hours a year on a bulb, but my old PJ was a pain to get to the bulb counter on. Now that I can see the hours so easily, I know that in almost 7 months I have only put 160 hours on it.

So if I can get 300 hours or so I'll at least have a year out of a bulb, and 6-700 will give me 2 years. That's about when I expect to buy a new bulb anyway, so with a little luck (so far so good) it's working for me.

And the D-ILA? As I've said here before, I think it can't be beat at the price. Wonderful film-like image. If you're a vintage film buff as I am and a weekend watcher, this is one great unit.

SAM33
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post #7707 of 9680
9/8/11 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by S A M 33
I really love my RS 40, but one thing that I think is becoming clear is that it's probably NOT a good choice for folks who watch a lot of TV on it.

I'm sure that's how some folks rack up the hours so fast. Me, I'm only watching movies on weekends. I had guesstimated that I put around 500 hours a year on a bulb, but my old PJ was a pain to get to the bulb counter on. Now that I can see the hours so easily, I know that in almost 7 months I have only put 160 hours on it.

So if I can get 300 hours or so I'll at least have a year out of a bulb, and 6-700 will give me 2 years. That's about when I expect to buy a new bulb anyway, so with a little luck (so far so good) it's working for me.

And the D-ILA? As I've said here before, I think it can't be beat at the price. Wonderful film-like image. If you're a vintage film buff as I am and a weekend watcher, this is one great unit.

SAM33
I had mines for 9 months and I have 300hrs. Its been great since day one, but I try not to watch much tv on it. I just got an Optoma ML500, which I been watching 10 hours a day, and that will save my projector for awhile. At the most I will watch it about 20 hours a month or 250 a year. If I do upgrade this year, it will have to be a big improvement over my RS40
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post #7708 of 9680
9/8/11 at 5:33am
No bulb issues here, but my HT is strictly for movies/concerts/games......no cable even setup down there. I fire up the projector at most once a day and in the summer/spring I will go quite a few days without even firing up the projector due to lack of time. I put ~600-700 hours a year on my projectors doing this.
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post #7709 of 9680
9/8/11 at 6:15am
In regards to how we rack up so many hours... This is the only "TV" in our house!

I basically have 3 hours every single night of watching a royals game and then add in whatever movies we watch on a weekly basis and whatever TV shows my wife watches and it adds up quickly. We don't generally watch in the day time, but probably at least 3-4 hours each night once the baseball game is on.

It's extremely easy to do 5-6 hours a day in April-May as the resort has closed, but it's still snowing all the time (snowed 80" this year after the resort closed meaning it's snowing every day, but we can't go skiing, so basically you sit around your house until spring really shows up in early June and you can mountain bike and golf).
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9/8/11 at 6:27am
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And the very next day after my post the bulb blew up just like the last one. I didn't even put this one in 3D mode to increase brightness.

Great.
I was complaining of bad ghosting, now my lamp has blew up also. This is also the only TV that we watch (aside from emergency plasma in the office we are watching now). I miss my big screen and sectional sofa badly at the moment. JVC rep told me that they don't have batch numbers on the lamps so they can't track why some last longer than others.
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