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post #9241 of 9972
I also have a secondary projector, I think many of us do. It saves the bulb and if something does go wrong we have a backup. Plus my secondary gets abused (sometimes I leave it on for hours just for the heck of it). I use a Viewsonic Pro8200 for a secondary, the lamp on this VS so far has been amazing. At 2000 hours, it is about the same brightness as a JVC with a new lamp (or close to).
post #9242 of 9972
Ok, received new lamp from JVC today, it actually doesn't have "003" on it as it still says "002" but it is obviously the third generation of these lamps as it has metal flap and metal casing where the air leaves the lamp. The metal flap isn't a stationary flap but it is able to move side to side if necessary. I guess some genius hopefully knows what he is doing. New lamp is nice and bright, fingers crossed it won't prematurely dim/die.

I will say I normally baby my projectors for example I never turn it on unless I plan to watch for a while and I hardly if ever turn it back on the same day. I also cannot see 3D and never turn lamp on high(I did have to with last lamp right before it died because it was way too dim). With this said I am now nervous with this lamp and it almost makes me want to put more hours on it than I usually would cause my warranty ends around 4/29/13 and I would hate for same thing to happen with this lamp. I'm not even sure they would give me another one past the 90 days now. I guess I should just enjoy it and quit worrying about it.

Mike
post #9243 of 9972
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Ok, received new lamp from JVC today, it actually doesn't have "003" on it as it still says "002" but it is obviously the third generation of these lamps as it has metal flap and metal casing where the air leaves the lamp. The metal flap isn't a stationary flap but it is able to move side to side if necessary. I guess some genius hopefully knows what he is doing. New lamp is nice and bright, fingers crossed it won't prematurely dim/die.
I will say I normally baby my projectors for example I never turn it on unless I plan to watch for a while and I hardly if ever turn it back on the same day. I also cannot see 3D and never turn lamp on high(I did have to with last lamp right before it died because it was way too dim). With this said I am now nervous with this lamp and it almost makes me want to put more hours on it than I usually would cause my warranty ends around 4/29/13 and I would hate for same thing to happen with this lamp. I'm not even sure they would give me another one past the 90 days now. I guess I should just enjoy it and quit worrying about it.
Mike

Im in the same boat, I am almost to the point that I am scared to even turn it on. I dont spend a LOT of time in the summer down in my man cave, but now I KNOW I spend even less time as I am tentative and selective of the hours I put on my third lamp...What a shame.
post #9244 of 9972
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Im in the same boat, I am almost to the point that I am scared to even turn it on. I dont spend a LOT of time in the summer down in my man cave, but now I KNOW I spend even less time as I am tentative and selective of the hours I put on my third lamp...What a shame.

You are right that it is a shame because this projector produces an excellent picture. I watched 2 movies last night and I was marveling at black level, contrast, and sharpness and I've owned the projector for 15 months. If this bulb can last as long as a normal bulb does without premature dimming of failing then I will be happy. If it doesn't I will probably get a new bulb and sell it and either get a JVC previous model without bulb issues. I also might wait for a new JVC model but wouldn't be comfortable buying one of those until they have been out 6+ months to make sure there are no issues with those.

Mike
post #9245 of 9972
One more thing I thought I would throw out there. My first digital HD projector was a Marantz VP12S1 and was rated at 2000 hours for the lamp life. Well when it got near 2000 hours I bought a new lamp so I would have it when the original died. It did dim like normal over time but I had a 2.8 HP screen so it was still bright enough. That lamp had over 5800 hours on the lamp when I sold the projector to a friend and he stated he didn't want to change the lamp just yet as it was still bright enough for his screen and he wound up putting over 8000 hours on the original lamp and he said he finally changed it because it was getting too dim and the original lamp still worked after 8000 hours, it never died. He wound up giving the projector to his sister and to this day I wonder how long that lamp would've lasted.biggrin.gif

Mike
post #9246 of 9972
I just received my bulb as well, The Tech told me to run the projector in High Altitude mode. This will also make sure the bulb is cooled.
post #9247 of 9972
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

I just received my bulb as well, The Tech told me to run the projector in High Altitude mode. This will also make sure the bulb is cooled.

So, even if you aren't in a high altitude area the tech recommended this, or are you in a high altitude area?

Mike
post #9248 of 9972
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

So, even if you aren't in a high altitude area the tech recommended this, or are you in a high altitude area?
Mike

Yes the Tech Recommended this. It makes the fan run at a little higher speed and helps cool the fan. I am not in a high altitude area.
post #9249 of 9972
Unfortunately, the extra fan noise in high altitude mode is unacceptable in my theater room. I suspect many people with small rooms will feel the same way.
post #9250 of 9972
I agree, in my room its not to bad. I really notice it when I am trying to listen for it. Once the movie get going I forget about it.


Hoping this bulb last since both of my bulbs only lasted 400 hours before dimming way to fast. So it will probably be another year before I get there. Most of my viewing is on the weekend.
post #9251 of 9972
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Just got an email from JVC as a one time accommodation they are sending me a new bulb and I should get it in 5-7 days. I hope it was just the bulb.
Mike


Actually the "one time accommodation" bothers me a lot. This isn't an accommodation, its a manufacturing default. And there are many others who have received more than one replacement because the first replacement died early too. Now, those were probably not the 003 bulbs, but we don't know for sure that those are really OK.

Bottom line is that JVC should be replacing bulbs within the 2 years warranty of the PJ as long as they continue to fail early (or until a combination of bulbs gets you at lest 2000 hours of use).....not just a "one time accommodation." Let's say your lamp fails again around 300 hours and they rule out the ballast but refuse to give you a third lamp. That would be a very disturbing change it how JVC had been handling their bulb issues lately and indicate that they are not going to stand by their product.

They make it sound like they are doing you a favor instead of making things right due to their faulty bulbs:mad:
post #9252 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Unfortunately, the extra fan noise in high altitude mode is unacceptable in my theater room. I suspect many people with small rooms will feel the same way.

I agree, my theater room is small in the 15' x 15' range so that extra fan noise is unacceptable because of their design flaw for me to keep the lamp cool.

Mike
Edited by mbw23air - 8/2/12 at 2:08pm
post #9253 of 9972
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Actually the "one time accommodation" bothers me a lot. This isn't an accommodation, its a manufacturing default. And there are many others who have received more than one replacement because the first replacement died early too. Now, those were probably not the 003 bulbs, but we don't know for sure that those are really OK.
Bottom line is that JVC should be replacing bulbs within the 2 years warranty of the PJ as long as they continue to fail early (or until a combination of bulbs gets you at lest 2000 hours of use).....not just a "one time accommodation." Let's say your lamp fails again around 300 hours and they rule out the ballast but refuse to give you a third lamp. That would be a very disturbing change it how JVC had been handling their bulb issues lately and indicate that they are not going to stand by their product.
They make it sound like they are doing you a favor instead of making things right due to their faulty bulbs:mad:

Yep, it's like they are doing me a favor since their faulty design of the projector doesn't keep lamp cool. I will definitely use this lamp more just to know if it will last as long as it should before my 2 year warranty is up. If it does die prematurely and they wont send me another lamp then that will definitely kill my chances of trusting JVC again.


Mike
post #9254 of 9972
what mainly bothers me is that there is a definite issue with these and there is no recall. To me all they are doing is a bandage solution, To me this does not sit well. While there customer service for me has been great, this is also the last bulb that they will be giving me. Only time will tell. If they stand behind there product they should do the right thing.
post #9255 of 9972
Makes me wonder when they will stop issuing replacements completely. I only have 300 hours on my 002 bulb, but between now and 500 is where many failed. I have held off hiring a calibrator, on the assumption that this one will die early. I was lucky enough to have a local forum member do a calibration that made a big difference, but there are still issues with gamma I would hire a pro to adjust properly. I tend to only use mine on the weekend, but I do watch 2-3 films on both friday and saturday night....so that can be 12-16 hours a week. I'm actually hoping mine does die soon just in case JVC decides to stop the replacement program. This would also not be as bad if the lamps weren't ridiculously priced, compared to others.
post #9256 of 9972
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Yep, it's like they are doing me a favor since their faulty design of the projector doesn't keep lamp cool. I will definitely use this lamp more just to know if it will last as long as it should before my 2 year warranty is up. If it does die prematurely and they wont send me another lamp then that will definitely kill my chances of trusting JVC again.
Mike

Back up. Not the projector...it is the lamp. JVC spec'd out a certain lamp for the maker (they don't make the lamps themselves). The manufacturer of the lamp made it incorrectly, thus why they have fixed it a couple times. JVC is taking the brunt, as ultimately they should, but it is not a fault of the projector itself... In fact the filament in the lamp is the issue (original lamps).

Just wanted to be clear on that...
post #9257 of 9972
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Actually the "one time accommodation" bothers me a lot. This isn't an accommodation, its a manufacturing default. And there are many others who have received more than one replacement because the first replacement died early too. Now, those were probably not the 003 bulbs, but we don't know for sure that those are really OK.
Bottom line is that JVC should be replacing bulbs within the 2 years warranty of the PJ as long as they continue to fail early (or until a combination of bulbs gets you at lest 2000 hours of use).....not just a "one time accommodation." Let's say your lamp fails again around 300 hours and they rule out the ballast but refuse to give you a third lamp. That would be a very disturbing change it how JVC had been handling their bulb issues lately and indicate that they are not going to stand by their product.
They make it sound like they are doing you a favor instead of making things right due to their faulty bulbs:mad:

I will say you are better off getting your dealer involved. JVC tech is vastly different than the side that sells them. They have to abide by certain guidelines...

Of course if any of you got them from AVS...come to me first please. Save yourselves the headache...
post #9258 of 9972
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 3 View Post

I will say you are better off getting your dealer involved. JVC tech is vastly different than the side that sells them. They have to abide by certain guidelines...
Of course if any of you got them from AVS...come to me first please. Save yourselves the headache...

That is exactly why I bought my B-Stock from you! It was and is reassuring to know we have AVS as an advocate for us if we have a problem. wink.gif
post #9259 of 9972
Has anyone thought about starting a class action lawsuit, any lawyers here want to get involved?
it might make JVC be responsible for all the bulb issues and would also solve the "One time accommodation" thing as JVC should replace the bulbs as long as they keep failing under 2000 hours
post #9260 of 9972
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Originally Posted by wingzz View Post

Has anyone thought about starting a class action lawsuit, any lawyers here want to get involved?
it might make JVC be responsible for all the bulb issues and would also solve the "One time accommodation" thing as JVC should replace the bulbs as long as they keep failing under 2000 hours

Lawyering-up isn't going to be good for anyone. The only one who will benefit is the lawyers. Your better off trying to work with JVC yourself.
post #9261 of 9972
Or contact your dealer...dealer...dealer...

Yowsa I am a broken record.
post #9262 of 9972
Makes sense, it was just a thought
post #9263 of 9972
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 3 View Post

Back up. Not the projector...it is the lamp. JVC spec'd out a certain lamp for the maker (they don't make the lamps themselves). The manufacturer of the lamp made it incorrectly, thus why they have fixed it a couple times. JVC is taking the brunt, as ultimately they should, but it is not a fault of the projector itself... In fact the filament in the lamp is the issue (original lamps).
Just wanted to be clear on that...

Thanks Jason,

That info gives me some peace of mind. I never had read the info you just posted.. I haven't read any reports yet of people with the new bulbs, with the metal flap, having any premature dimming. So, hopefully the new bulb will do it. I watched a blu-ray last night on my RS40 and was still blown away at how good it looked. Today I received my Darbee Darblet from AV Science and can't wait to try it out this weekend to see what this magical little device does to my already great looking picture.

Thanks again,
Mike
post #9264 of 9972
I installed my new bulb today and quite happy with the picture. Weird thing happened twice tonight though...the projector just shut down for no reason two times! WTH? I'm stumped as to what could cause this...the picture went black and the lens cover closed. Any ideas from anyone?
post #9265 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

I installed my new bulb today and quite happy with the picture. Weird thing happened twice tonight though...the projector just shut down for no reason two times! WTH? I'm stumped as to what could cause this...the picture went black and the lens cover closed. Any ideas from anyone?
I remember reading about this somewhere here, check the sleep timing setting it might be put to sleep after certain time.
post #9266 of 9972
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Originally Posted by ana_moo_ana View Post

I remember reading about this somewhere here, check the sleep timing setting it might be put to sleep after certain time.

That's what it was....when I reset the lamp I must have turned on the "1 Hour Sleep" by mistake!
post #9267 of 9972
Are jvc d-ila projectors susceptible to image retention or burn in. The manual has a warning about displaying static images, but I could not find anything definitive by searching.

It doesn't seem possible, but why the warning in the manual?
post #9268 of 9972
Are there any alternative glasses that work well with the X3 that are less expensive than the JVC brand?
post #9269 of 9972
Why go to the dealer? I've gone directly to JVC the two times I've had the bulb replaced, with no issues. They fought me a bit the 1st time, but when I called last time, it sounded pretty routine(which is sad). Both times they called it a "one time accomodation".

So whats the highest hours anyone has on an 03 bulb? Mine is up to 380 or so, it would be close to 1,000 if not for my back up projector. So I can't believe there isn't someone out there with like 700+ hours yet. The tech didn't advise me to do so, but since the most recent bulb I've been running in high altitude mode. It adds a little extra noise, but as soon as a movie starts it's out of mind. I wish there were a report of an 003 bulb failing so I could pre emtively contact JVC for a replacement and avoid the innevitable 1-2 month back order. smile.gif
post #9270 of 9972
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Originally Posted by dolphinc View Post

Are there any alternative glasses that work well with the X3 that are less expensive than the JVC brand?

Anyone?
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