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post #9241 of 9660
7/27/12 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

The darblets are listed under the thread in this forum under improving your sharpness and contrast thread. I've got one ordered and it's relatively a cheap video processor that sharpens image and improves contrast without any negative effects. People in the 20+k forum have raved about it as well as every professional and user review I have read. My "002" bulb only lasted a little over 500 hours then got real dim and then it quit. I called JVC and they had me email in a copy of sales invoice and a few pictures of bulb. The new "003" third generation bulb has this new flap on it that is suppose to make air flow better but it's too early to tell if it will make the bulb last as its suppose to. I sure hope it does.
Mike

Thanks for the info. It will be a while before i hit the 400 hrs range. One movie a week for me on average. Interesting about the air flow. I keep mines on high elevation speed. I wonder if that will help any. Although I am above 6000ft.
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post #9242 of 9660
7/28/12 at 8:47am
My first lamp started dimming at 400 hours and died at just over 500. I've had my second lamp for a while now and was beginning to relax with the assumption that this one was doing better. My picture is still plenty bright, but I checked my hours and found that I've only hit 350 so far. Now I'm getting nervous.

This damn projector makes me paranoid.
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post #9243 of 9660
7/28/12 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

My first lamp started dimming at 400 hours and died at just over 500. I've had my second lamp for a while now and was beginning to relax with the assumption that this one was doing better. My picture is still plenty bright, but I checked my hours and found that I've only hit 350 so far. Now I'm getting nervous.
This damn projector makes me paranoid.

Exactly, at first I thought everyone with lamp problems was either crazy or extremely unlucky. Now, I will be super paranoid when my new lamp gets here. Problem is that it seems around the 400-500 lamp mark is the key area where a lot of them tend to dim fast so I will be paranoid for a while with this new lamp.

Mike
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post #9244 of 9660
7/28/12 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Exactly, at first I thought everyone with lamp problems was either crazy or extremely unlucky.

We are, it's just that we also have bad lamps smile.gif
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post #9245 of 9660
7/28/12 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

We are, it's just that we also have bad lamps smile.gif

Lol...sorry, I meant to say you were enthusiasts or fanatics instead of just plain crazy.biggrin.gif

Mike
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post #9246 of 9660
7/28/12 at 7:54pm
Are the new 003 lamps having trouble as well? I've only got 200ish hours on my 003 so far.
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post #9247 of 9660
7/29/12 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by plissken99 View Post

Are the new 003 lamps having trouble as well? I've only got 200ish hours on my 003 so far.

I haven't read 1 report of the "003" lamp prematurely dimming but I think it's too early yet until people get 500+ hours on them. My fingers are crossed that this version will just dim normally as lamps due over time and not just fall off the cliff after several hundred hours. I know there is the 2012 JVC projector lamp measurement thread but so many of those owners still have "002" lamps. We might need to start just a "003" lamp thread to better keep up with these.

Mike
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post #9248 of 9660
7/29/12 at 8:55am
Mine would have a lot more on it if I hadn't opted for a secondary projector, which I use for TV shows and video games, pretty much accounting for 75-80% of my viewing these days. Nice in that it makes you appreciate the JVC all the more when you turn it on. smile.gif I hope one day we can have RS40 quality images with a 5,000 bulb or lampless, even better.
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post #9249 of 9660
7/29/12 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by plissken99 View Post

Mine would have a lot more on it if I hadn't opted for a secondary projector, which I use for TV shows and video games, pretty much accounting for 75-80% of my viewing these days. Nice in that it makes you appreciate the JVC all the more when you turn it on. smile.gif I hope one day we can have RS40 quality images with a 5,000 bulb or lampless, even better.

Great minds think alike. I too would have a lot more hours on my RS40 as I have had it for about 15 months and just have a little over 500 hours on it as I use a DLP projector for HDTV and video games. It really does make that native contrast of JVC stand out when you turn it on after watching the DLP projector. I can't wait for the day when you can get a JVC with a bright LED light source and they might as well throw in 4k resolution while they are at it.....lol

Mike
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post #9250 of 9660
7/29/12 at 1:38pm
I also have a secondary projector, I think many of us do. It saves the bulb and if something does go wrong we have a backup. Plus my secondary gets abused (sometimes I leave it on for hours just for the heck of it). I use a Viewsonic Pro8200 for a secondary, the lamp on this VS so far has been amazing. At 2000 hours, it is about the same brightness as a JVC with a new lamp (or close to).
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post #9251 of 9660
7/31/12 at 12:50pm
Ok, received new lamp from JVC today, it actually doesn't have "003" on it as it still says "002" but it is obviously the third generation of these lamps as it has metal flap and metal casing where the air leaves the lamp. The metal flap isn't a stationary flap but it is able to move side to side if necessary. I guess some genius hopefully knows what he is doing. New lamp is nice and bright, fingers crossed it won't prematurely dim/die.

I will say I normally baby my projectors for example I never turn it on unless I plan to watch for a while and I hardly if ever turn it back on the same day. I also cannot see 3D and never turn lamp on high(I did have to with last lamp right before it died because it was way too dim). With this said I am now nervous with this lamp and it almost makes me want to put more hours on it than I usually would cause my warranty ends around 4/29/13 and I would hate for same thing to happen with this lamp. I'm not even sure they would give me another one past the 90 days now. I guess I should just enjoy it and quit worrying about it.

Mike
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post #9252 of 9660
8/1/12 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Ok, received new lamp from JVC today, it actually doesn't have "003" on it as it still says "002" but it is obviously the third generation of these lamps as it has metal flap and metal casing where the air leaves the lamp. The metal flap isn't a stationary flap but it is able to move side to side if necessary. I guess some genius hopefully knows what he is doing. New lamp is nice and bright, fingers crossed it won't prematurely dim/die.
I will say I normally baby my projectors for example I never turn it on unless I plan to watch for a while and I hardly if ever turn it back on the same day. I also cannot see 3D and never turn lamp on high(I did have to with last lamp right before it died because it was way too dim). With this said I am now nervous with this lamp and it almost makes me want to put more hours on it than I usually would cause my warranty ends around 4/29/13 and I would hate for same thing to happen with this lamp. I'm not even sure they would give me another one past the 90 days now. I guess I should just enjoy it and quit worrying about it.
Mike

Im in the same boat, I am almost to the point that I am scared to even turn it on. I dont spend a LOT of time in the summer down in my man cave, but now I KNOW I spend even less time as I am tentative and selective of the hours I put on my third lamp...What a shame.
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post #9253 of 9660
8/1/12 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Im in the same boat, I am almost to the point that I am scared to even turn it on. I dont spend a LOT of time in the summer down in my man cave, but now I KNOW I spend even less time as I am tentative and selective of the hours I put on my third lamp...What a shame.

You are right that it is a shame because this projector produces an excellent picture. I watched 2 movies last night and I was marveling at black level, contrast, and sharpness and I've owned the projector for 15 months. If this bulb can last as long as a normal bulb does without premature dimming of failing then I will be happy. If it doesn't I will probably get a new bulb and sell it and either get a JVC previous model without bulb issues. I also might wait for a new JVC model but wouldn't be comfortable buying one of those until they have been out 6+ months to make sure there are no issues with those.

Mike
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post #9254 of 9660
8/1/12 at 8:00am
One more thing I thought I would throw out there. My first digital HD projector was a Marantz VP12S1 and was rated at 2000 hours for the lamp life. Well when it got near 2000 hours I bought a new lamp so I would have it when the original died. It did dim like normal over time but I had a 2.8 HP screen so it was still bright enough. That lamp had over 5800 hours on the lamp when I sold the projector to a friend and he stated he didn't want to change the lamp just yet as it was still bright enough for his screen and he wound up putting over 8000 hours on the original lamp and he said he finally changed it because it was getting too dim and the original lamp still worked after 8000 hours, it never died. He wound up giving the projector to his sister and to this day I wonder how long that lamp would've lasted.biggrin.gif

Mike
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post #9255 of 9660
8/1/12 at 8:41am
I just received my bulb as well, The Tech told me to run the projector in High Altitude mode. This will also make sure the bulb is cooled.
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post #9256 of 9660
8/1/12 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

I just received my bulb as well, The Tech told me to run the projector in High Altitude mode. This will also make sure the bulb is cooled.

So, even if you aren't in a high altitude area the tech recommended this, or are you in a high altitude area?

Mike
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post #9257 of 9660
8/1/12 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

So, even if you aren't in a high altitude area the tech recommended this, or are you in a high altitude area?
Mike

Yes the Tech Recommended this. It makes the fan run at a little higher speed and helps cool the fan. I am not in a high altitude area.
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post #9258 of 9660
8/2/12 at 10:32am
Unfortunately, the extra fan noise in high altitude mode is unacceptable in my theater room. I suspect many people with small rooms will feel the same way.
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post #9259 of 9660
8/2/12 at 10:46am
I agree, in my room its not to bad. I really notice it when I am trying to listen for it. Once the movie get going I forget about it.


Hoping this bulb last since both of my bulbs only lasted 400 hours before dimming way to fast. So it will probably be another year before I get there. Most of my viewing is on the weekend.
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post #9260 of 9660
8/2/12 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Just got an email from JVC as a one time accommodation they are sending me a new bulb and I should get it in 5-7 days. I hope it was just the bulb.
Mike


Actually the "one time accommodation" bothers me a lot. This isn't an accommodation, its a manufacturing default. And there are many others who have received more than one replacement because the first replacement died early too. Now, those were probably not the 003 bulbs, but we don't know for sure that those are really OK.

Bottom line is that JVC should be replacing bulbs within the 2 years warranty of the PJ as long as they continue to fail early (or until a combination of bulbs gets you at lest 2000 hours of use).....not just a "one time accommodation." Let's say your lamp fails again around 300 hours and they rule out the ballast but refuse to give you a third lamp. That would be a very disturbing change it how JVC had been handling their bulb issues lately and indicate that they are not going to stand by their product.

They make it sound like they are doing you a favor instead of making things right due to their faulty bulbs:mad:
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post #9261 of 9660
8/2/12 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Unfortunately, the extra fan noise in high altitude mode is unacceptable in my theater room. I suspect many people with small rooms will feel the same way.

I agree, my theater room is small in the 15' x 15' range so that extra fan noise is unacceptable because of their design flaw for me to keep the lamp cool.

Mike
Edited by mbw23air - 8/2/12 at 2:08pm
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post #9262 of 9660
8/2/12 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Actually the "one time accommodation" bothers me a lot. This isn't an accommodation, its a manufacturing default. And there are many others who have received more than one replacement because the first replacement died early too. Now, those were probably not the 003 bulbs, but we don't know for sure that those are really OK.
Bottom line is that JVC should be replacing bulbs within the 2 years warranty of the PJ as long as they continue to fail early (or until a combination of bulbs gets you at lest 2000 hours of use).....not just a "one time accommodation." Let's say your lamp fails again around 300 hours and they rule out the ballast but refuse to give you a third lamp. That would be a very disturbing change it how JVC had been handling their bulb issues lately and indicate that they are not going to stand by their product.
They make it sound like they are doing you a favor instead of making things right due to their faulty bulbs:mad:

Yep, it's like they are doing me a favor since their faulty design of the projector doesn't keep lamp cool. I will definitely use this lamp more just to know if it will last as long as it should before my 2 year warranty is up. If it does die prematurely and they wont send me another lamp then that will definitely kill my chances of trusting JVC again.


Mike
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post #9263 of 9660
8/2/12 at 11:27am
what mainly bothers me is that there is a definite issue with these and there is no recall. To me all they are doing is a bandage solution, To me this does not sit well. While there customer service for me has been great, this is also the last bulb that they will be giving me. Only time will tell. If they stand behind there product they should do the right thing.
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post #9264 of 9660
8/2/12 at 11:52am
Makes me wonder when they will stop issuing replacements completely. I only have 300 hours on my 002 bulb, but between now and 500 is where many failed. I have held off hiring a calibrator, on the assumption that this one will die early. I was lucky enough to have a local forum member do a calibration that made a big difference, but there are still issues with gamma I would hire a pro to adjust properly. I tend to only use mine on the weekend, but I do watch 2-3 films on both friday and saturday night....so that can be 12-16 hours a week. I'm actually hoping mine does die soon just in case JVC decides to stop the replacement program. This would also not be as bad if the lamps weren't ridiculously priced, compared to others.
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post #9265 of 9660
8/3/12 at 5:14am
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Yep, it's like they are doing me a favor since their faulty design of the projector doesn't keep lamp cool. I will definitely use this lamp more just to know if it will last as long as it should before my 2 year warranty is up. If it does die prematurely and they wont send me another lamp then that will definitely kill my chances of trusting JVC again.
Mike

Back up. Not the projector...it is the lamp. JVC spec'd out a certain lamp for the maker (they don't make the lamps themselves). The manufacturer of the lamp made it incorrectly, thus why they have fixed it a couple times. JVC is taking the brunt, as ultimately they should, but it is not a fault of the projector itself... In fact the filament in the lamp is the issue (original lamps).

Just wanted to be clear on that...
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post #9266 of 9660
8/3/12 at 5:18am
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Actually the "one time accommodation" bothers me a lot. This isn't an accommodation, its a manufacturing default. And there are many others who have received more than one replacement because the first replacement died early too. Now, those were probably not the 003 bulbs, but we don't know for sure that those are really OK.
Bottom line is that JVC should be replacing bulbs within the 2 years warranty of the PJ as long as they continue to fail early (or until a combination of bulbs gets you at lest 2000 hours of use).....not just a "one time accommodation." Let's say your lamp fails again around 300 hours and they rule out the ballast but refuse to give you a third lamp. That would be a very disturbing change it how JVC had been handling their bulb issues lately and indicate that they are not going to stand by their product.
They make it sound like they are doing you a favor instead of making things right due to their faulty bulbs:mad:

I will say you are better off getting your dealer involved. JVC tech is vastly different than the side that sells them. They have to abide by certain guidelines...

Of course if any of you got them from AVS...come to me first please. Save yourselves the headache...
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post #9267 of 9660
8/3/12 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 3 View Post

I will say you are better off getting your dealer involved. JVC tech is vastly different than the side that sells them. They have to abide by certain guidelines...
Of course if any of you got them from AVS...come to me first please. Save yourselves the headache...

That is exactly why I bought my B-Stock from you! It was and is reassuring to know we have AVS as an advocate for us if we have a problem. wink.gif
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post #9268 of 9660
8/3/12 at 7:47am
Has anyone thought about starting a class action lawsuit, any lawyers here want to get involved?
it might make JVC be responsible for all the bulb issues and would also solve the "One time accommodation" thing as JVC should replace the bulbs as long as they keep failing under 2000 hours
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post #9269 of 9660
8/3/12 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by wingzz View Post

Has anyone thought about starting a class action lawsuit, any lawyers here want to get involved?
it might make JVC be responsible for all the bulb issues and would also solve the "One time accommodation" thing as JVC should replace the bulbs as long as they keep failing under 2000 hours

Lawyering-up isn't going to be good for anyone. The only one who will benefit is the lawyers. Your better off trying to work with JVC yourself.
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post #9270 of 9660
8/3/12 at 10:23am
Or contact your dealer...dealer...dealer...

Yowsa I am a broken record.
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