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post #9421 of 9972
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Got a replacment bulb for my dimming 002 series bulb. Question for those with 003 flapper bulbs. Did the flapper in yours move freely just by tilting the lamp from side to side? If so, did it make any noise once installed and running?

Yes, flapper can move freely on its own. Once installed and running I don't hear a thing and I sit 3 feet in front of my shelf mounted RS40.

Mike
post #9422 of 9972
Had my RS40 for a little over a year and the bulb literally exploded in the projector a couple weeks ago. Talked to JVC and after sending pictures and my info they offered to sell me one but wouldn't replace it despite the known issue with the bulbs.

So, question now is, where is everyone in Canada getting their bulbs from? I've found only one site that explicitly says it sells an original JVC bulb and housing in a JVC box. Others seem to use a generic housing with the JVC bulb. I'd like to stay as "official" as possible to make sure I get the most time out of the bulb. Anyone have any tips on where to go? Price comes to about $430 after tax and shipping, is that about the right ballpark?
post #9423 of 9972
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Originally Posted by ShuMai View Post

Had my RS40 for a little over a year and the bulb literally exploded in the projector a couple weeks ago. Talked to JVC and after sending pictures and my info they offered to sell me one but wouldn't replace it despite the known issue with the bulbs.
So, question now is, where is everyone in Canada getting their bulbs from? I've found only one site that explicitly says it sells an original JVC bulb and housing in a JVC box. Others seem to use a generic housing with the JVC bulb. I'd like to stay as "official" as possible to make sure I get the most time out of the bulb. Anyone have any tips on where to go? Price comes to about $430 after tax and shipping, is that about the right ballpark?

How many hours on the bulb? I think the free replacement days are over since the new line with the bulb changes are about to be released.
post #9424 of 9972
Hey Dolphinc, thanks for the reply. Had about 1400 hours on it I think - not as bad as some who would only get 400 or so. Am I safe to assume that if I'm buying a new genuine JVC bulb that I won't run into an exploding bulb again?

Also, I've never updated the firmware on the unit so I think I'll do that once it's back up and running, but was there ever a change log released, or does anyone know what the newer firmware does/changes?
post #9425 of 9972
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Originally Posted by ShuMai View Post

Hey Dolphinc, thanks for the reply. Had about 1400 hours on it I think - not as bad as some who would only get 400 or so. Am I safe to assume that if I'm buying a new genuine JVC bulb that I won't run into an exploding bulb again?
Also, I've never updated the firmware on the unit so I think I'll do that once it's back up and running, but was there ever a change log released, or does anyone know what the newer firmware does/changes?

I have had my X3 for about 4 months now but only have 35 hrs on it, I have had no issues at all so far so I have not even checked the version of the firmware yet. I also have a Epson 8350 for tv and games which I have been watching more than the JVC although I watched Avengers in 3D last night on the JVC and it looked great.

If your system looks and functions correctly I would leave it be, sometimes upgrading the firmware can cause more problems than it corrects.

As for the bulb, just make sure it is a version 3 bulb with the flapper. I have 2 backup version 3's waiting so I think the X3 will be my primary projector for quite sometime.
post #9426 of 9972
Anyone have success with using a darblet with there RS40 projector?


I tried various experiments with the RS40. I took two very thick high end 3ft hdmi cables that I had and placed them from the player to the darbee, and from the darbe to the projector. The picture plays fine for a few seconds to several seconds and then loses the signal very briefly and does another hand shake. It eventually cause my projector to lock up.

so I think the RS40 can't handle the darbee, even after I updated the RS40 firmware to the latest. Or my darbee is defective, but it works fine with my lcd tv and using the same blu-ray player.
post #9427 of 9972
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Originally Posted by ay221 View Post

Anyone have success with using a darblet with there RS40 projector?
I tried various experiments with the RS40. I took two very thick high end 3ft hdmi cables that I had and placed them from the player to the darbee, and from the darbe to the projector. The picture plays fine for a few seconds to several seconds and then loses the signal very briefly and does another hand shake. It eventually cause my projector to lock up.
so I think the RS40 can't handle the darbee, even after I updated the RS40 firmware to the latest. Or my darbee is defective, but it works fine with my lcd tv and using the same blu-ray player.

Try longer HDMI cables as it seems cables shorter than about 6' can have issues like you mention with the Darbee from what I have been told and have read. Grab two 6' cables and try it again.
post #9428 of 9972
I use a Darblet with the RS40 and have never had an issue. As Toe says, short HDMI cables could be the source of your problem.
post #9429 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

I use a Darblet with the RS40 and have never had an issue. As Toe says, short HDMI cables could be the source of your problem.

Not sure about the short cable, I use a Darbee with my X3 (RS40) and I use a 3' HDMI 1.4 cable and have no issues at all. Maybe a receiver issue?
post #9430 of 9972
I currently have an hdmi going from a panasonic bdt-500 to a receiver. A second hdmi going from the bdt-500 to projector which is 15 ft, with one 3 ft cable connected to the darblet. This generated similar bad results but the cutoff was more frequent. So I moved the player in closer with two 3 ft cables and got the results I posted above.

Using the bdt-500 player with the two 3ft hdmi cables, I moved all that to my lcd flat panel and it worked just fine with no cutouts or lockups.

I guess my next try is to avoid using a 3ft cable all together just to see what happens.
post #9431 of 9972
So I bought the redmere 15 ft cable and a normal 6ft cable. The darblet now sends a steady picture, but only after it warms up. Maybe like 3 minutes, and then it stays steady. So I will turn on the darblet first and let it warm up.

The readmere cable is really thin. Since I have my hdmi attached to the ceiling, it will be an aesthetic improvement. I will just double check it on 3d before I remove the old one.
post #9432 of 9972
I am using a Darblet with an rs40 b stock I just bought from avsforum. Wow I am never buying a projector from anywhere else. The service from mike has been first class. The Darblet works pretty well with the rs40. I have it running on hd at 40% and it really sharpens things up quite a bit. It really does add to the immersive experience by allowing you to really savor the detail and fabrics of clothing in movies, buildings etc.

Coming from a Sony vplhw10, the difference in sharpness and black level detail is night and day. The huge huge positive about the jvc is that bright stars in dark space shine amazingly bright and really pop in sci fi where the auto iris on the Sony will just shut everything down when a dark scene appears.
post #9433 of 9972
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Originally Posted by lyndonlim View Post

I am using a Darblet with an rs40 b stock I just bought from avsforum. Wow I am never buying a projector from anywhere else. The service from mike has been first class. The Darblet works pretty well with the rs40. I have it running on hd at 40% and it really sharpens things up quite a bit. It really does add to the immersive experience by allowing you to really savor the detail and fabrics of clothing in movies, buildings etc.
Coming from a Sony vplhw10, the difference in sharpness and black level detail is night and day. The huge huge positive about the jvc is that bright stars in dark space shine amazingly bright and really pop in sci fi where the auto iris on the Sony will just shut everything down when a dark scene appears.

I have the same setup and agree the darbee is a great addon for the JVC line of projectors. A great film to really see the darbee shine is The Dark Knight Rises. So many dark scenes where you can pause it then turn the darbee on and off the see how much more detail the picture shows. I also leave mine on 40% that seems to be the sweet spot.
post #9434 of 9972
I have a question regarding getting the rgb grid lines to show so I can adjust the rgb panel alignment. I have tried using the prescribed direction button but I can't seem to the my rs40 to display the grid lines. Has anyone had any luck with these?
post #9435 of 9972
I just got myself an open box JVC DLA-X3. It seems like a great machine but there is a problem. After looking at the settings it seems the unit has 200+ hours on it already. Not a major deal.

Problem is when I look at very dark scenes, the blacks are blending into each other where the different shapes are indistinguishable. Does anyone know what would cause this. I really like the machine otherwise and would love to not have to return it. I have gone through four projectors trying to find the perfect one for me. This seemed like it until this problem. I am a new owner of projectors so pardon me if the solution is simple.

Thank you
post #9436 of 9972
Needs a calibration.
post #9437 of 9972
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Originally Posted by wtarte View Post

I just got myself an open box JVC DLA-X3. It seems like a great machine but there is a problem. After looking at the settings it seems the unit has 200+ hours on it already. Not a major deal.
Problem is when I look at very dark scenes, the blacks are blending into each other where the different shapes are indistinguishable. Does anyone know what would cause this. I really like the machine otherwise and would love to not have to return it. I have gone through four projectors trying to find the perfect one for me. This seemed like it until this problem. I am a new owner of projectors so pardon me if the solution is simple.
Thank you

What is your room like? If you have light coloured walls and ceiling then you'll get light bouncing back to the screen which will tend to make the shadows look grey and lose detail. If your room has dark walls, then it may be a question of calibration (probably worth it anyway after 200 hours) as the low end gamma might have drifted too high which will lose shadow detail (common issue with JVCs it seems). Also the higher end gamma may well be too low which loses image depth and makes brighter scenes look washed out (light coloured rooms will add to this effect too).
post #9438 of 9972
OK, thanks.

I'll follow the steps in the calibration thread. Hope it helps.

BTW, walls are dark. Set up as a theater room properly I assume. Bought the house with a room professionally done. So, basically learning everything from step one.
post #9439 of 9972
If all your blacks are blending together, then it sounds like your brightness is too low. Do you have a disc for setting brightness and contrast? Also, do you have HDMI enhanced on? The player and projector need to be set the same. Some blu-ray players have a "darker" setting which tends to crush blacks.
post #9440 of 9972
Streaming everything through XBMC. Will check the settings. Really don't want to spend 240$ on a colorimeter, so will try everything else first.
post #9441 of 9972
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Originally Posted by wtarte View Post

Streaming everything through XBMC. Will check the settings. Really don't want to spend 240$ on a colorimeter, so will try everything else first.

Well that's your problem right there then. wink.gif (I just never had much luck using PCs with projectors so I gave up and bought a BluRay player and a PVR).

However, if you are using a PC source, then you might need to use HDMI Enhanced setting as otherwise you could be clipping blacks (and whites). You should use a set up disc such as the free AVSHD709 disc to make sure that you set the brightness and contrast controls up correctly as changing the HDMI setting will alter the black and white clipping levels.

The AVS HD709 download is here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
post #9442 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Kelvin1965S View Post

Well that's your problem right there then. wink.gif (I just never had much luck using PCs with projectors so I gave up and bought a BluRay player and a PVR).
However, if you are using a PC source, then you might need to use HDMI Enhanced setting as otherwise you could be clipping blacks (and whites). You should use a set up disc such as the free AVSHD709 disc to make sure that you set the brightness and contrast controls up correctly as changing the HDMI setting will alter the black and white clipping levels.
The AVS HD709 download is here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration

Kelvin is correct, you should just purchase a Sony BD590 for $99 or something similar and I bet those blacks fall right in line. PC's and video cards have so many variables that it could be one of about 100 different settings.
post #9443 of 9972
Would a boxee box have the same issues? I use one on my GT50 with no issues, but do not know if there is a projector - plasma difference.

I think I will try both when I get home.

I stream a lot through the network so unless they make a blueray player that can stream network shares, that is not optimal.

Thanks all for the suggestions btw, really appreciate it.
post #9444 of 9972
It might depend on how your plasma is set up or how it responds to different input signals (RGB 15-235, RGB 0-255, YCrCb at 4:4:4 or YCrCb at 4:2:2 for example). All you need to do is check to see if changing the projector HDMI to enhanced solves the problem, then adjust the controls to set the brightness and contrast for the new HDMI setting (otherwise blacks will look grey).
post #9445 of 9972
After almost two years with my RS-40 it just started to do something very weird. Whenever I shut down the projector it comes back on after a couple minutes. Did anybody experience this before and has a solution to this problem?
post #9446 of 9972
Thanks all. Enhanced mode looks like it took care of it. I am gonna calibrate it anyway to make sure it is just right. Also, PC was an issue too. Causing the signal to change from cinema scope to 16x9 and back again throughout movies. Will try different way to get the media center signal to the machine. XBMC was just a cheap way to do it. I had an extra i5 laying around. Oh well... More money.
post #9447 of 9972
At least you're sorted out now. I just got sick of updates, etc messing up my HTPC and the rest of the family couldn't use it (maybe a good thing though biggrin.gif) I got a cheap Sony player and it worked brilliantly and for 1080/24p BluRays the picture isn't any better on my newer Oppo BDP93 player (though other features make it worth the extra IMHO) so you don't need to spend a fortune to get a top notch picture on BluRays (plus an online rental account as I have works out about £1 per BluRay rental cool.gif).
post #9448 of 9972
I had over 500 hours on the projector before I had any problems. Now, I get freeze/lockup issues on a fairly regular basis. My only solution is to unplug the unit for 15-20 minutes and it resets itself. What is the root cause of the problem? Does the unit need to be shipped to JVC for repair? I'm pretty disappointed that a high end product by JVC has these problems. I'm kind of ranting now, but I've always felt their products were junk in the past, but I hoped the projectors would be different. I'm coming fresh from CRT world where my NEC XG 110LC ran bullet proof for nine years except for one instance with a focus board. It would be easy to just get rid of the thing, but I love the picture when it's working right.

Actually it strangely coincides with either, cleaning the dust filter or the running of ARC on my PC. I'm unsure if these things could be related or not.
post #9449 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

I had over 500 hours on the projector before I had any problems. Now, I get freeze/lockup issues on a fairly regular basis. My only solution is to unplug the unit for 15-20 minutes and it resets itself. What is the root cause of the problem? Does the unit need to be shipped to JVC for repair? I'm pretty disappointed that a high end product by JVC has these problems. I'm kind of ranting now, but I've always felt their products were junk in the past, but I hoped the projectors would be different. I'm coming fresh from CRT world where my NEC XG 110LC ran bullet proof for nine years except for one instance with a focus board. It would be easy to just get rid of the thing, but I love the picture when it's working right.
Actually it strangely coincides with either, cleaning the dust filter or the running of ARC on my PC. I'm unsure if these things could be related or not.

Start at the beginning of this thread in the January/February 2011 time frame and you can read all about your problem.
post #9450 of 9972
Thank you. I've read some. I've done searches on "freeze" and "lock up". I see many theories, but no answers. I apologize if I've missed something with my searches.

I've read everything from HDMI handshake issues, to color sync issues to possible bulb issues. I've read that perhaps the issue is a resistor or could/should be fixed by firmware. I don't see anything definite. I'd like to know the root cause so I can determine whether or not I need to ship back to JVC. I don't want to be three weeks without the PJ during NFL playoffs.

It seems odd to me that I go for nine months with no issues to now when I have lockups all the time.
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