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post #9511 of 9660
1/8/13 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by e932 View Post

I've had my X3 projector for about 2 years before the exact same behaviour occurred.
Sent it to the service. Got it back after 3 weeks.
Worked fine for about 2 days, now it started to happen all over again.
The unit randomly just starts to go into some kind of 'freeze mode'. While in that mode you can continue watching whatever you're watching right now. But showing the menu or the Lens Control screen gets really slow.
When you change the HDMI signal while in that mode (e.g. stopping the movie so the signal changes from 1080p24 to 1080p60), the screen goes black and the only thing you can do is pull the plug.
Did you get any response from JVC?
Did your IR Receiver (for the remote) started to get less sensitive too, just about that time when the lock ups started to happen? I do now have to point the remote into the direction of the pj instead of just relying on the screen reflection. Plus after I got the pj back from service, the remote worked perfectly fine again (during projector setup). But that was just for a couple of minutes!
Michael

All of that is exactly what has happened to me, the front IR sensor doesn't work AT ALL I have to point the remote to the back wall so it'll hit the rear IR receiver. JVC just said it needs to be serviced, but as I said I thought I Had gotten it from an authorized seller but turns out it wasn't so I don't think I have a warranty now. So I'm not sure how much it would cost to fix out of pocket? Anyone have any idea's? It doesn't happen all the time, and lately it's been working ok..... but if I can get it fixed for not TOO much money then I may do that.
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post #9512 of 9660
1/9/13 at 12:31am
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1296327/official-jvc-rs40-x3-owners-thread/9390#post_22500655
Same problem for me and someone else, it is a known problem, i'll send soon my jvc for repair.
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Luigi
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post #9513 of 9660
1/9/13 at 1:45pm
Yeah, well if you could find out how much the repair is out of warranty for me that'd be nice smile.gif lol I can't seem to get a number from the repair center over here.

Edit, well you're in italy so that probably wouldn't help anything. I may just have to call them.
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post #9514 of 9660
1/13/13 at 5:24pm
How long is the turn around time? I live on the East coast, so I'm assuming a three week absence for the projector.
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post #9515 of 9660
1/17/13 at 5:58pm
I have had my RS40 since April of 2011 and I have calibrated the grayscale with an Eye One Display LT. While I feel I got the grayscale close when I calibrated it, the meter is now over a year old and surely has drifted. I have a Lumagen Radiance XD that I bought used for a great price so I have the ability to do an auto calibration and have been thinking of buying Chromapure with the advanced auto calibration and an Eye One Display 3.

Are there any here that have bought a similar calibration package and have calibrated there RS40 and if so, does the price justify the end results? When I calibrated grayscale it did improve picture and the $150 or so I spent was justified but this is over 4x as much and didn't know if it will be worth it.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Mike
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post #9516 of 9660
1/17/13 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

I have had my RS40 since April of 2011 and I have calibrated the grayscale with an Eye One Display LT. While I feel I got the grayscale close when I calibrated it, the meter is now over a year old and surely has drifted. I have a Lumagen Radiance XD that I bought used for a great price so I have the ability to do an auto calibration and have been thinking of buying Chromapure with the advanced auto calibration and an Eye One Display 3.

Are there any here that have bought a similar calibration package and have calibrated there RS40 and if so, does the price justify the end results? When I calibrated grayscale it did improve picture and the $150 or so I spent was justified but this is over 4x as much and didn't know if it will be worth it.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Mike

I can't compare to what you were able to do with your Eye One LT. I also don't have an RS40. I have an RS20, similar in brightness and contrast I think. But I got a 125 pt Color Cube auto-cal package from Spectracal which does a very similar job to Chromapure. I got a Radiance Mini 3D, C6 colorometer and CalMAN Enthusiast and the results are really spectacular to my eyes and those of my wife and neighbors. So in my case I went from no calibration at all to 21 pt gamma and 125 pt color. I would definitely do it!
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post #9517 of 9660
1/17/13 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

I can't compare to what you were able to do with your Eye One LT. I also don't have an RS40. I have an RS20, similar in brightness and contrast I think. But I got a 125 pt Color Cube auto-cal package from Spectracal which does a very similar job to Chromapure. I got a Radiance Mini 3D, C6 colorometer and CalMAN Enthusiast and the results are really spectacular to my eyes and those of my wife and neighbors. So in my case I went from no calibration at all to 21 pt gamma and 125 pt color. I would definitely do it!

Thanks! I saw an improvement when I just did grayscale with the LT but it either needs to be recalibrated or I just need to buy a better meter and I read about the Chromapure package with the autocal and Display 3 meter. The autocal feature is the main draw so that may be the way I go.

Thanks again,
Mike
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post #9518 of 9660
1/19/13 at 8:45am
Has anyone shipped their PJ in for repair and have it work 100% correctly afterward?

I have a love/hate relationship with this PJ. The picture is drop dead gorgeous for a digital PJ, perhaps the finest or close to the finest available. But, man, the hardware and/or firmware is junk.
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post #9519 of 9660
1/19/13 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

Has anyone shipped their PJ in for repair and have it work 100% correctly afterward?

I have a love/hate relationship with this PJ. The picture is drop dead gorgeous for a digital PJ, perhaps the finest or close to the finest available. But, man, the hardware and/or firmware is junk.

I have. No problems since. New bulb and new system board.
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post #9520 of 9660
1/19/13 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

I have. No problems since. New bulb and new system board.

Excellent! But I thought you posted above that the colors were weird or something like that.
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post #9521 of 9660
1/19/13 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

Excellent! But I thought you posted above that the colors were weird or something like that.

That problem was there before I sent it back to the factory. I was only talking about the return for fix issue. I'm going to get around to the color change issue one of these days. 40 in closet for now. Replacing it in LR with Benq 1080ST and will then move 40 to Video Room to replace Sharp 12000 MKII which does not color shift.
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post #9522 of 9660
1/19/13 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

That problem was there before I sent it back to the factory. I was only talking about the return for fix issue. I'm going to get around to the color change issue one of these days. 40 in closet for now. Replacing it in LR with Benq 1080ST and will then move 40 to Video Room to replace Sharp 12000 MKII which does not color shift.

Thank you. I appreciate the help.

Right now I'm experiencing HD lock issues when switching input sources, occasional flicker and a dead front IR receiver. Did you have these issues before the fix? How much did you watch the projector after it came back?

The flicker issue is interesting in that I never saw it before until I tried to DVR the NFL playoffs. I don't like watching commercials, so I let it queue up and start watching an hour late and cruise through it that way. Somewhere in there the flicker started. I think it's when the DVR goes into pause mode, shrinks the picture and then moves it around the screen to avoid burn-in. I think it started when I resumed watching. Then, it also displayed some of the other HD lockup symptoms as well, but weirdly, allowed me to continue playback as long as I could live with the flicker (not long, I might add).
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post #9523 of 9660
1/19/13 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

Thank you. I appreciate the help.

Right now I'm experiencing HD lock issues when switching input sources, occasional flicker and a dead front IR receiver. Did you have these issues before the fix? How much did you watch the projector after it came back?

The flicker issue is interesting in that I never saw it before until I tried to DVR the NFL playoffs. I don't like watching commercials, so I let it queue up and start watching an hour late and cruise through it that way. Somewhere in there the flicker started. I think it's when the DVR goes into pause mode, shrinks the picture and then moves it around the screen to avoid burn-in. I think it started when I resumed watching. Then, it also displayed some of the other HD lockup symptoms as well, but weirdly, allowed me to continue playback as long as I could live with the flicker (not long, I might add).

I don't have the flicker issue but find the insensitive front IR port irritating. On HDMI handshake issues, which I find depends on the agreement of the input device and the 40(i.e., different devices handshake differently with the proj.), I just go back and forth switching between the devices until the one with difficulty finally catches. I have found that my D* receivers have no problem but my Samsung BD player and PS3 are less dependable.
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post #9524 of 9660
1/20/13 at 7:29am
Thanks, again.

Does your receiver or prepro have an onscreen display? Try watching a source where the resolution is different than the onscreen display. I don't know if it's HDMI lockup or something else. But turn the on-screen display on and off a few of times. Does the pj freeze up? Does the screen turn all green or look like bizzaro world colors? And from there, no more switching is possible. The only resolution to the problem is to unplug the pj as even the hard buttons do not respond to presses. I can easily send mine into la la land.

Then again, I guess it could be my Anthem receiver. I've also been able to freeze the pj by switching sources from PC to cable to blu-ray.
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post #9525 of 9660
1/20/13 at 7:43am
I don't have a receiver with an onscreen display through HDMI but I have had the green screen come up when it has locked up the HDMI and then, like you, all buttons are useless and I have to pull the power plug. I probably have had only 5-6 HDMI lockups since I have had projector but I probably havent had as many cause I dont switch HDMI on projector and use a Lumagen Radiance for switching. My biggest problem is that my front IR sensor port quits working frequently and remote has to be pointed so it hits back IR remote sensor which is a PITA. I plan on sending my RS40 in to get whatever board they need to replace soon as my warranty is done in April.

Mike
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post #9526 of 9660
1/20/13 at 7:50am
Thanks.

Just to be clear, I only have one input to the projector. All of my switching is through the Anthem receiver. Also, did I misunderstand? Why would you wait until your warranty is over before sending it in for repair?
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post #9527 of 9660
1/20/13 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

Thanks.

Just to be clear, I only have one input to the projector. All of my switching is through the Anthem receiver. Also, did I misunderstand? Why would you wait until your warranty is over before sending it in for repair?

Ok, I didnt know if you were experiencing HDMI lockups while switching between HDMI inputs on projector. I guess it doesnt matter how the projector gets a different HDMI signal as it will lockup if switching between different HDMI signals. My problem just hasn't been a big issue enough that I have wanted to be without projector for a few weeks to send in. I haven't had a HDMI lock up in 6 months and when front IR lockups up I just unplug after powering down projector and it is good until it decides to quit working but since warranty is almost up I might as well go on and get it fixed. If I happened to not get it fixed I would still enjoy my projector.

Mike
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post #9528 of 9660
1/20/13 at 8:29am
Thanks

Yes, most of the time, I love the projector. However, I used to have monthly movie "screenings" with friends and co-workers. I've been reluctant to re-institute that activity, because I don't know if the pj is going to wig out or not. The same holds true for the NFL playoffs/Superbowl. The odds are against it, but I might have an angry mob if it quit during the Superbowl!

I could probably minimize the risk by not doing any switching, on-screen displays or allowing the DVR/HD tuner to go into pause mode. My old CRT NEC XG died only once in 9 years. It gave me an error code that told me exactly what the problem was. I ordered the board and fixed it. Now, I realize I have to move on, but shouldn't I be able to have that same bullet-proof reliability? My alternative to this purchase was going to be another CRT Marque 9500 LC projector from Curt Palme. Sometimes I wonder.......
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post #9529 of 9660
1/20/13 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

Thanks, again.

Does your receiver or prepro have an onscreen display? Try watching a source where the resolution is different than the onscreen display. I don't know if it's HDMI lockup or something else. But turn the on-screen display on and off a few of times. Does the pj freeze up? Does the screen turn all green or look like bizzaro world colors? And from there, no more switching is possible. The only resolution to the problem is to unplug the pj as even the hard buttons do not respond to presses. I can easily send mine into la la land.

Then again, I guess it could be my Anthem receiver. I've also been able to freeze the pj by switching sources from PC to cable to blu-ray.

I had those problems before, although I don't remember the green screen. The fix was a new system board covered under warranty. If you are under warranty send it back for a new sys board. I still have handshake issues from time to time but no lockups anymore.
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post #9530 of 9660
1/22/13 at 6:37pm
A question for other techie RS40 owners - have any of you purchased the RS40's JVC Service Manual (not talking about the owner's manual)? I see there are at least of couple of online sites that offer an electronic copy of the service manual for under $20. HERE is one. I have NOT found any web site offering free service manual downloads. I don't know if there is any source other than JVC itself to obtain copies of the service bulletins that have been issued for this model (we do know there is at least one service bulletin, but perhaps there are more).
Edited by Ron Jones - 1/22/13 at 6:44pm
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post #9531 of 9660
1/22/13 at 6:53pm
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

I had those problems before, although I don't remember the green screen. The fix was a new system board covered under warranty. If you are under warranty send it back for a new sys board. I still have handshake issues from time to time but no lockups anymore.

Jack,

Did the new system board fix your front IR port issue?

Thanks,
Mike
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post #9532 of 9660
1/22/13 at 9:06pm
Have any of you guys noticed that using the clear motion drives causes a significant color shift? I was just looking at a movie tonight, and it looked amazing with my latest calibration (Lumagen with 3D LUT), I switched to CMD and the motion looked very realistic, but the colors shifted towards purple and the gamma went screwy (the whole image got darker). Will I have to do a separate calibration for use with the CMD? I already have settings for REC709 2D, REC709 3D (with the glasses), and SMPTE-C D55 (for some older DVD's), I'd hate to have to do another.
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post #9533 of 9660
1/23/13 at 1:40am
I have a problem.

My screen went blue so I turned off the projector. When I turned it back on the first red light and orange light were solid with the third light flashing red continuously with a slight pause I believe every 6 flashes. I tried changing the bulb and got the same results. Any suggestions?

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post #9534 of 9660
1/23/13 at 5:41am
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Originally Posted by shape81 View Post

I have a problem.

My screen went blue so I turned off the projector. When I turned it back on the first red light and orange light were solid with the third light flashing red continuously with a slight pause I believe every 6 flashes. I tried changing the bulb and got the same results. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Have you tried a firmware update recently? If you call up tech support they probably can help you if you ever get through.
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post #9535 of 9660
1/23/13 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Jack,

Did the new system board fix your front IR port issue?

Thanks,
Mike

I don't think so, although the last time I used it I had no problem.

On another note, I was using the remote to change the gamma setting. I have been using Chris Deerings settings with very satisfactory results except for some slight color shifting after warmup. For some reason I decided to mess around with gamma and changed from 2.5 to 2.2. What a difference that made. Brightness went up and colors seemed to be better. I'm going to experiment some more the next time I bring out the RS40.
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post #9536 of 9660
1/23/13 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by 3dmaven View Post

Have any of you guys noticed that using the clear motion drives causes a significant color shift? I was just looking at a movie tonight, and it looked amazing with my latest calibration (Lumagen with 3D LUT), I switched to CMD and the motion looked very realistic, but the colors shifted towards purple and the gamma went screwy (the whole image got darker). Will I have to do a separate calibration for use with the CMD? I already have settings for REC709 2D, REC709 3D (with the glasses), and SMPTE-C D55 (for some older DVD's), I'd hate to have to do another.

This is a known issue, however, not quite like you describe. On mine, CMD works fine, but if I turn it off while in CMD mode and then turn it back on later (while still in CMD mode) then it is the purple/really high gamma. Cycling around full circle through each CMD mode clears it up. If yours is happening when just going into CMD, its probably the same issue but you're somehow triggering it without a power-cycle. I wouldn't try to re-calibrate, as, at least for me, the purple isn't always there.
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post #9537 of 9660
1/23/13 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

I don't think so, although the last time I used it I had no problem.

Oh, ok, I was hoping the system board replacement also was related to the IR issue but I guess it is a separate issue.

Thanks,
Mike
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post #9538 of 9660
1/25/13 at 2:15pm
You'll read back in the thread that my 40 stopped sending 3D IR signals and was beginning to have occasional color drop outs about a month ago. Fortunately I was just still in warranty at almost 2 years.
You now have to send the JVC's to Projector Doctor, a third party group for warranty work.

It still cost me about 70 bucks for shipping, but I did get it back this week and a quick test shows the 3D working again.
They replaced (and I quote) PC0106304U9 PROCESSOR PWB.

So there you go. I'll need to spend some time with it to see if it's OK in the long run.
In the interim I got an Epson 5020 and the 3D brightness and ghosting is so superior I'm keeping it for the 2-projector set-up anyway. I never was fully satisfied with this for 3D, which I love.

But I still like the JVC's 2D picture better. Now I need a new bulb for the JVC, it's getting dull and after seeing the Epson torch it really feels lacking.
But it is the original bulb with around 600 hours on it, so I'm OK with that given all the problems folks had with the original bulbs.
I only watch films on weekends, so I average 300-350 hours a year. Now with 2 PJ's I'll put even fewer hours on the new one.

S A M 33
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post #9539 of 9660
1/25/13 at 2:45pm
Hi all,

I have an early RS40 that's nearing 800 hrs on its original bulb. We'll be hosting a lot of guests for the Superbowl, and given all the issues I've read re: RS40 bulbs dying prematurely, I got to worrying about what might happen if my bulb died around game-time. Yes, I have that kind of luck smile.gif.

If I shell out $$$ to have a new JVC bulb on-hand for when my current bulb eventually fails, I bet the new bulb sits on a shelf and loses all its warranty while the current bulb decides to live on a long while... Seems like warranty is an important thing for RS40 bulbs, especially at these prices. I figure my best bet is to install the new bulb immediately while under warranty, and then keep the old bulb around as a backup for when the new bulb someday dies, so that I don't have any down time waiting for a replacement (especially as I'm sure it will blow when I have people over smile.gif).

I was ready to pull the trigger until I just saw that the JVC manual states: "Never attempt to reuse an old lamp unit. This may cause a malfunction."

Is there a good reason for this and for me to abandon my plan of sidelining the old bulb for eventual temporary re-use?

Advice appreciated! Thanks
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1/25/13 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by Speed Demon View Post

Hi all,

I have an early RS40 that's nearing 800 hrs on its original bulb. We'll be hosting a lot of guests for the Superbowl, and given all the issues I've read re: RS40 bulbs dying prematurely, I got to worrying about what might happen if my bulb died around game-time. Yes, I have that kind of luck smile.gif.

If I shell out $$$ to have a new JVC bulb on-hand for when my current bulb eventually fails, I bet the new bulb sits on a shelf and loses all its warranty while the current bulb decides to live on a long while... Seems like warranty is an important thing for RS40 bulbs, especially at these prices. I figure my best bet is to install the new bulb immediately while under warranty, and then keep the old bulb around as a backup for when the new bulb someday dies, so that I don't have any down time waiting for a replacement (especially as I'm sure it will blow when I have people over smile.gif).

I was ready to pull the trigger until I just saw that the JVC manual states: "Never attempt to reuse an old lamp unit. This may cause a malfunction."

Is there a good reason for this and for me to abandon my plan of sidelining the old bulb for eventual temporary re-use?

Advice appreciated! Thanks

Well I think you could answer your own question by asking yourself if you plan on keeping the projector for another year or two? If so you are going to end up buying another bulb anyway when the original dies. I bought 2 spares because I know that over the long haul I will need them and why wait until it dies, then have to order and wait for the new bulb to arrive. Order it and just run the current one until it dies then pop in the new one. biggrin.gif
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