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post #9541 of 9975
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

On the gamma, I tried 2.3 and it seemed to dark. So I switched back to 2.2 and it seems just about right although a little on the light side. I am going to bring out my DVE disk and try adjusting the brightness and contrast and see if that will help. Am I am on the right track doing it this way?

Dark and contrasty is what you want, = film-like.

Here are my settings arrived at by using the Disney WOW setup disc.
Contrast 14
Brightness -6
Color 7
Tint 0
Gamma 2.3
Color Temp - playing with comparing 6500k to 7000k. So far prefer 7000k as 6500k looked slightly reddish to me.

I don't have any professional calibration tools. I don't really think any are required for this PJ.
post #9542 of 9975
Has anyone successfully had their JVC X3 front IR sensor issue fixed?

Under warranty I had my processing board changed to fix the freeze issue and the front IR sensor board replaced at the same time as it had stopped working (the sensor would work for a short while if the pj was unplugged for a few hours then would die again). Earlier I after my first lamp blew I had the faulty lamp and then power supply replaced so I'm not sure that there is much left to change inside that box!

When the pj last came back from JVC with the new boards it was great, no freezes and IR working as it should. After a few weeks, I'm back to the problem with no front IR sensor but at least the freeze problem is fixed.

So I guess my question is really does anyone know if JVC have worked out what the problem is with these IR sensors?

My pj is ceiling mounted and so the power always connected an turned on to the pj, even when the pj is turned off. I was told that this might have an influence on the IR sensors. Does anyone with the sensor problem unplug their pj when not in use?

I'm in Australia and the JVC agent is Kenwood who have been very good with their customer service, they are genuinely making an effort but I'd really like to get this sorted.
Edited by pajoam - 2/9/13 at 4:15pm
post #9543 of 9975
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Originally Posted by pajoam View Post

Has anyone successfully had their JVC X3 front IR sensor issue fixed?

Mine worked fine until I was asked to send the unit back to replace the second busted bulb. The unit came back and locks up more frequently (though it is running more stable lately), the front IR no longer works, and the convergence drifted over the two way trip across the USA (red and blue are more than one pixel off at the edges now). I hardly have the heart to pay $70 or more to send it back again and risk even more damage. This is a beautiful projector when it is working, but I just don't see the quality I thought I would get at this price point. Best of luck to you.
post #9544 of 9975
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Originally Posted by 3dmaven View Post

Mine worked fine until I was asked to send the unit back to replace the second busted bulb. The unit came back and locks up more frequently (though it is running more stable lately), the front IR no longer works, and the convergence drifted over the two way trip across the USA (red and blue are more than one pixel off at the edges now). I hardly have the heart to pay $70 or more to send it back again and risk even more damage. This is a beautiful projector when it is working, but I just don't see the quality I thought I would get at this price point. Best of luck to you.

Ok, that's good to know. My front IR sensor will quit working and I have to unplug it for it to start working again. I hardly ever have any HDMI lockup issues and my convergence is almost perfect so I will not be sending mine in for the front IR sensor issue as I don't want it coming back with convergence off.

Thanks,
Mike
post #9545 of 9975
For years, my RS40 was shelf-mounted in a small apartment space. Never had any issues with the remote signal. Now I'm in a much larger space and have ceiling mounted the projector in the middle of the room. I'm also having problems with the front IR sensor. I have to walk around to the back of the projector to use the remote. That makes focusing difficult, as I have to constantly walk back and forth from the front of the room to behind the projector, making incremental changes and then checking them.

It occurs to me that the front sensor could have been broken for a long time, but I never knew it because the signal bounced off the walls effectively in the old apartment. I don't have that benefit in the new space.

I'm not sending the whole projector away for repair just over this. It also seems wasteful to spend $40-50 on an IR repeater/extender when all of my other components work fine. Has anyone had success with cheaper IR extenders and this projector?
post #9546 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Has anyone had success with cheaper IR extenders and this projector?

I use a Harmony remote that converts the remote RF to an IR blaster that is taped to the back sensor. Never had a problem, and I can use the remote perfect even with 3D. Who knows, my front IR sensor may be shot as well.

I would imaging any IR extender placed right up next to the back sensor would work, except when the projector is in 3D mode. The back sensor is there so that you can point the remote at the back when the front sensor is flooded by the 3D glasses sync emitter. I would guess that the 3D emitter, with an IR extender blasting it to the back, would make both the front and the back IR sensors unusable during 3D.
post #9547 of 9975
I had similar sensitivity problem with my RS40. Mine was just a weak reception and often caused me to stand, turn around and aim directly at the front of the projector. Mysteriously, about two weeks ago it disappeared. Now I just shoot over my shoulder and it works great. Who knows!
post #9548 of 9975
I have a question that might have been addressed so bare with me here. My RS40 has started to not light up the screen until after I plug and unplug it approx 5 times. I have to unplug as it locks up and wont shut off by me pushing the button. Once I get it to fire up it works fine. Does anyone here know what's going on. I see there's a new firmware release and wanted to know does that solve the issue.

Let me know,

BigAve
post #9549 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Speed Demon View Post

I was ready to pull the trigger until I just saw that the JVC manual states: "Never attempt to reuse an old lamp unit. This may cause a malfunction."

I interpreted that statement to mean "Never attempt to reuse a lamp unit that has passed it's recommended max service life (3000 hrs?). This may cause a malfunction, IE bulb failure".

I didn't think this meant "Don't swap bulbs temporarily, and then put the original back in". I'm not sure why/how that would cause a problem.
post #9550 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Shagg View Post

I interpreted that statement to mean "Never attempt to reuse a lamp unit that has passed it's recommended max service life (3000 hrs?). This may cause a malfunction, IE bulb failure".

I didn't think this meant "Don't swap bulbs temporarily, and then put the original back in". I'm not sure why/how that would cause a problem.

I agree. But that quote is designed to be ambiguous. If they sell a few extra lamps because of it I'm sure whoever designed that sentence (and I'm sure it was designed) will be happy.
post #9551 of 9975
I haven't been here for a while but I just had my second bulb blow out with a little less than 600 hours on it. This is the second bulb I've had in the projector and the first one went out about the same (maybe a little longer). JVC was very good about taking care of me on the first replacement but I'm wondering if they are still replacing faulty bulbs at no cost. I did not get the "flapper" bulb the last time so didn't have the most current technology. Any thing I should know prior to calling tomorrow morning? Thanks for any help you can provide.
post #9552 of 9975
Normally the projector has one year or 1000 hours warranty, but they change my lamp when my projector was one year and one month without problem.

The first lamp dead at 950 hours. The second has 400 hours and all is OK, I think the new lamp has lost less bright. I don't know if I have the latest lamp revision but I remember the first lamp lost more bright when was 400 hours.

Good Luck...
post #9553 of 9975
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Originally Posted by leugim View Post

Normally the projector has one year or 1000 hours warranty, but they change my lamp when my projector was one year and one month without problem.

I believe the manual states that there is a two year warranty.
post #9554 of 9975
Hey guys
Is AVS still a good (Read Cheap) place to get the replacement bulbs for the RS40's??
and if so who is a good person to contact?

Thanks

Mike
post #9555 of 9975
The projector has a 2 year warranty itself, not sure about the bulb. My original one is still going at about 650 hours, has dimmed some of course but still quite watchable.

S A M 33
post #9556 of 9975
What is a used 3D JVC X3 worth? I'm looking at picking one up on CL. Thanks.
post #9557 of 9975
I sold mine on Craigslist for $1600, started out asking $2000. Damn internet, even Craigslist shoppers know about the bulb issues. Plus you can get new ones for $2100.
post #9558 of 9975
Based on my experience of owning an X3 I'd say a second hand one would be worth using as a doorstop... buy something else unless you can get a decent warranty. Loved the PQ but the reliability is a worry.
post #9559 of 9975
I would like to publicly give a HUGE thank you to Mike Garrett here at AVS for taking care of me so quickly on my RS40 lamp dying at 508 hours.

On the 24th at 9:30PM, I shot Mike an email regarding my RS40 suddenly became so dim as to be unwatchable (didn't blow but looking at it now, it is all brown and looks like it could have blown at any second). I had heard about the faulty lamps even before ordering my 'B' stock from Mike back in July of last year. Mike got back to me within 1/2 hour asking for the serial number of my RS40. He said he would contact JVC on my behalf. Just now, FedEX showed up with brand new 003 lamp and I'm already back in business, about 4 1/2 days after initially contacting Mike. Wow Mike!

Mike rocks! AVS rocks! RS40 and JVC rock!
post #9560 of 9975
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Originally Posted by wingzz View Post

Hey guys
Is AVS still a good (Read Cheap) place to get the replacement bulbs for the RS40's??
and if so who is a good person to contact?

Thanks

Mike

I have this same question, my third? fourth? I think third but who knows...lamp just blew unlike the first few this one definitely lasted a "very long" time.

I'm actually considering selling the RS40 since we turn on the blu-ray player so infrequently and just about all tv shows and movies are from the xbox video marketplace and its 1080p HD-ish quality and more than a handful of Netflix shows. I'm pretty sure we could scale down in projector size and film-like quality to get a more games-esque projector but I've limited placement options + trigger requirements.

Any recommendations on a projector (w/ blown lamp) swap or what most would consider a reasonable sale price for an RS40 sans lamp?

I'm actually REALLY amazed at just how long this last lamp lasted but I think part of its extended life was simply leaving the projector for much longer periods of time to lessen the startup/shutdown frequency but also because I have so much ambient light, it was on and off of high lamp mode quite often until sunset (I remember at some point there was speculation that this was maybe the cause of the lamp issues) so that wasn't it. I know I was well over 1000 hours probably almost to the tune of 1200 - 1400 given how many hours per day it was on.
post #9561 of 9975
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Originally Posted by NavNucST3 View Post

I have this same question, my third? fourth? I think third but who knows...lamp just blew unlike the first few this one definitely lasted a "very long" time.

I'm actually considering selling the RS40 since we turn on the blu-ray player so infrequently and just about all tv shows and movies are from the xbox video marketplace and its 1080p HD-ish quality and more than a handful of Netflix shows. I'm pretty sure we could scale down in projector size and film-like quality to get a more games-esque projector but I've limited placement options + trigger requirements.

Any recommendations on a projector (w/ blown lamp) swap or what most would consider a reasonable sale price for an RS40 sans lamp?

I'm actually REALLY amazed at just how long this last lamp lasted but I think part of its extended life was simply leaving the projector for much longer periods of time to lessen the startup/shutdown frequency but also because I have so much ambient light, it was on and off of high lamp mode quite often until sunset (I remember at some point there was speculation that this was maybe the cause of the lamp issues) so that wasn't it. I know I was well over 1000 hours probably almost to the tune of 1200 - 1400 given how many hours per day it was on.

Wow. This is discouraging. Doesn't the manual say something like 2000 or 3000 hours? Well mine's got 800 and still going strong, but I thought the bulbs were improved now.
post #9562 of 9975
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Wow. This is discouraging. Doesn't the manual say something like 2000 or 3000 hours? Well mine's got 800 and still going strong, but I thought the bulbs were improved now.

Forget JVC for a moment - lets talk lamps in general. They are like tires on a car - estimated life is only a general estimate. I have never gotten the stated life out of any lamp - including the 1st one on my SIM Lumis ( a pricey one at that ). They get too dim. So you get another one. If lamps cost you 25 cents to 50 cents an hour, it's still worth it, eh? Projectors are ( IMHO ) the Lamborghini's of the video display world. And if your tires on your Lamborghini wore out at 30K miles instead of the rated 50K miles, would you sell it and get a VW Jetta? No, you would get a new set of tires. cool.gif
post #9563 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

Projectors are ( IMHO ) the Lamborghini's of the video display world. cool.gif

Maybe yours... mine is more like a Subaru WRX... relatively cheap, decent performance, unrefined and a bit noisy (I thought about saying it was a turbo-deisel mercedes, but thought I'd let the CRT crowd have that one if they want it) wink.gif
post #9564 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

Forget JVC for a moment - lets talk lamps in general. They are like tires on a car - estimated life is only a general estimate. I have never gotten the stated life out of any lamp - including the 1st one on my SIM Lumis ( a pricey one at that ). They get too dim. So you get another one. If lamps cost you 25 cents to 50 cents an hour, it's still worth it, eh? Projectors are ( IMHO ) the Lamborghini's of the video display world. And if your tires on your Lamborghini wore out at 30K miles instead of the rated 50K miles, would you sell it and get a VW Jetta? No, you would get a new set of tires. cool.gif

Mostly agree. However, I don't want manufacturer's to shine us on. When they sold me my CRT in 2003, they told me the tubes were good for 10,000 hours. And that was true. Well, green might've gone a little sooner, but never so bad I had to replace it. What's wrong with the truth?

Right now, if there were a reasonable replacement. I would consider that for my next purchase. This unit throws a beautiful picture, but has had many issues. I would seriously look at Sony next time.
post #9565 of 9975
What does a CRT tube cost to replace compared to a lamp?

For most of us, for 1 / 10th or less of the cost of the projector, a new lamp will make it seem like new again. smile.gif
post #9566 of 9975
When I had my Barco G808 CRT, I was looking at a refurbished set of tubes for $1500. There's no question digital projectors are a better deal in the long run.

About the bulb issues, I've upgraded to the RS46 with an advertised 4,000 lamp life in normal mode. I'm really hoping it lasts a long time like the JVCs of old, with my RS1 and RS2, I used the lamps for nearly 3,000 hours before deciding to change them out. Course I'd waited too long and the new lamps nearly blinded compared to what I'd gotten used to lol, but they were still working.
post #9567 of 9975
I would never advocate going backwards because the JVC brings additional benefits over CRT, reliability not being one of them, but from a purely financial point of view.....

CRT - $3500 in 2003 + one focus board over 9 years at $300 = $3800 for approximately 7500 hours of viewing = $.506 per hour
JVC - $1800 B stock (many of you might have bought a new one which would add cost), 7 replacement bulbs (assumes one every thousand hours. it appears some are doing worst than that) @ 300 = $3900. assume the same 7500 = $.52 per hour

This assumes the JVC will last nine years. It's longevity is unproven.

Actually, I think electricity might be a factor which I can't quantify. I think the JVC uses much less. So let's say it's a wash for B stock.

$1500 retubing would get you another 10 years for which you'd buy $3000 worth of bulbs.
post #9568 of 9975
I got tired of the lamp issues with the RS40, sold it at a loss, and replace it with an Epson 6010. This was a while ago and am very happy with the decision to part ways with JVC. 3D on the Epson is way better (much brighter and minimal ghosting - mostly noticeable only on titles/menu). The 2D is very close too after 125 pt autocalibration on Lumagen. Still lots of shadow detail and decent blacks. Not JVC native, but good enough with ZERO lamp or other issues. None on the Epson with nearly 700 hours on the lamp and still plenty bright. Plus the 6010 has a three year warranty and spare lamp.

I hear that the new JVCs have improved lamps, etc., but I'll be happy with the Epson until their a decent priced 4K lamp-less projector available. I've got plenty of lamp life and warranty left to last a couple of years.
post #9569 of 9975
Steven,

I almost did the same thing, but decided to stick with the RS40 through the end of this year to see what is coming from CEDIA. I figure I'm already going to take a bath on it with all of the negative publicity regarding the lamps and keeping it longer term wasn't going to cost me much. All that being said, the third generation lamps are a HUGE improvement over the first two and I'm at over 700 hours now and I'm still getting over 12ftL. At 600 hours on my first two generation bulbs I was down to 5!
post #9570 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

Steven,

I almost did the same thing, but decided to stick with the RS40 through the end of this year to see what is coming from CEDIA. I figure I'm already going to take a bath on it with all of the negative publicity regarding the lamps and keeping it longer term wasn't going to cost me much. All that being said, the third generation lamps are a HUGE improvement over the first two and I'm at over 700 hours now and I'm still getting over 12ftL. At 600 hours on my first two generation bulbs I was down to 5!

I think that if we all stick with this 40 and the 3rd gen bulb we may find that it will actually work out all right. Mine still looks great!
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