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I am happy for the UK firmware update; 1) it's in English, 2) It works, 3) It's made for x3/rs40 and it's from JVC 4) I don't have to return my pj or send in for warranty repair. 5) I can flash back to 1.5 at any time.

 

I thought JVC intended for it's consumers to apply these updates their self? Did I miss something where only authorized personnel may flash the update?

 

Because the 1.5 firmware is the same on both the USA and the UK site I am comfortable with using 1.8. Soon, the 1.8 will be mirrored on the USA server and this won't be an issue.


Edited by Sysop - 12/14/13 at 2:16pm
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If I recall, you have use a 32-bit version of windows to do the upgrade, correct? I need to find a friend that has XP or Vista running on a laptop frown.gif
post #9843 of 9975
I agree it shouldn't void your warranty. But you never know since it was not released in the us.
post #9844 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

If I recall, you have use a 32-bit version of windows to do the upgrade, correct? I need to find a friend that has XP or Vista running on a laptop frown.gif

I'm pretty sure that is correct. You going for it too? Please report you findings if you do. I'm curious what changes this could make with hdmi handshaking.....for better or worse.
post #9845 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

If I recall, you have use a 32-bit version of windows to do the upgrade, correct? I need to find a friend that has XP or Vista running on a laptop frown.gif

Yes, you need a 32bit version of Windows. I used Win7 Pro, 32bit when I upgraded my projector to 1.5. No issues.

Thanks so far for the feedback on 1.8. Makes me hopeful it will stabilize my projector.
post #9846 of 9975
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Originally Posted by pdxfj View Post

Yes, you need a 32bit version of Windows. I used Win7 Pro, 32bit when I upgraded my projector to 1.5. No issues.

Thanks so far for the feedback on 1.8. Makes me hopeful it will stabilize my projector.

What issues are you having?
post #9847 of 9975
huhhhhh??? you can't use a 64bit version of win to do the fw upgrade??
post #9848 of 9975
I just updated my RS40 to v1.8. Everything looks fine, no issues so far. And all my settings were retained.
post #9849 of 9975
Reply from JVC:

"Hello I don't know why but I will see if I can get our site updated."

So I'm holding out for more info. It's not like I have an issue right now, and who knows what this really does. With HDMI, sometimes it's best to leave it alone if it works.
post #9850 of 9975
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Reply from JVC:

"Hello I don't know why but I will see if I can get our site updated."

So I'm holding out for more info. It's not like I have an issue right now, and who knows what this really does. With HDMI, sometimes it's best to leave it alone if it works.

Yep. If it is not broke, don't try to fix it. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Yep. If it is not broke, don't try to fix it. smile.gif

Well I did have one lockup...the first ever, after introducing the darblet. However that was after going through many BD movies and going from the movies back to the PS3 menu. Each time you do that it has to re-handshake….so it could have been a fluke and it did not happen this weekend while doing a lot of testing.

The other issue would be if I leave deep color on Auto for the PS3 the ps3 menu will flash on and off occasionally (since it is 1080p 60 at 12 bits) but it is not an issue while watching movies (since that is only 1080p 24 at 12 bits). I also haver always gotten HDMI sparkles in the PS3 menu with deep color on....never in BD playback, because its 60 vs 24 fps. I do have a 35 ft cable run, but it is a good Blue Jeans high speed cable and I don't recall these issue with my old Epson 8100, so I think it may be an issue with 1080p60 at 12 bits on the JVC.....but really that doesn't affect me the way I use the PS3, since i don't game on it and only play BD movies.

Of course turning deep color off solves all of those issues, minus the one lock up I had, since that was actually while testing with deep color off. I know it should not make any difference, but to my eyes it looks better with it set to Auto, which is effectively on. Some explanations I have read say that the up sampling can be beneficial for fine gradients and banding. However I have no idea what the darblet is doing with the 12 bit signal since it is 10 bit internal processing, but still outputting 12 bits..

Who knows if the version 1.8 would fix any of those…..or make something else worse! The lockup is really the only issue that concerns me, and it would have to happen again for me to really worry about it. I still have a few months on my warranty as well. I’d rather see version 1.8 on the USA support site just as a CYA that it was intended for us to install.
Edited by curlyjive - 12/16/13 at 9:33am
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Well my recent paranoia wasn't for not. Yesterday I noticed a major dimming of my pj bulb, and tonight in the middle of watching a movie, there was loud pop and bye bye to the bulb. frown.gif Only 753 hours on it... I am not happy!
This couldn't happen at a worse time since there's no way I can afford a new bulb now.
I did see some talk here about AVS dealing with this "bad bulb" situation? Can someone enlighten me on what that is about?
I did buy mine from AVS but unfortunately the warranty in past due now.
Any advice how how to get a bulb really cheap is most welcome. Please and thank you.
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The darblet I bought never worked right with the RS40 and panasonic 3d player I have. After a couple of minutes the hdmi connection starts phasing in an out. It didn't have that problem if I hooked up the same player to my lcd set for testing purposes. Maybe the 1.8 will fix my situation. But I am used to not using the darblet so I might leave it alone. At least for now.
post #9854 of 9975
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Originally Posted by kwk2293 View Post

how long are hdmi cables going to and from darbee short hdmi cables can cause problems on with darbee

I am using a short 3 foot long HDMI cable and was not aware that could be causing the lock up problem. Then I researched the Darbee Vision Darblet thread where Adam Darbee stated ""As for the Cables, we recommend at least a 6 ft cable as we have run into problems with 3 ft cables. Although I have a few customers who have told me they use one and it works fine."

Many experienced forum users have also attested to this fact/problem. Size (or length) matters.

By the way, I had no lock ups before using the Darblet like others have also mentioned in this thread.

The deep color issue was also mentioned in the Darblet thread on page 193.

I'm going to try a 6 foot HDMI cable with the Darblet first before messing with the firmware update or possibly remove the Darblet as a test.

Thanks for the advice!
post #9855 of 9975
Didnt want you to ditch darbee with out atleast trying longer hdmi cables
post #9856 of 9975
Wait so others have had lockup issues with the darblet and the rs 40? Anyone using that combo without issue.
post #9857 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Well my recent paranoia wasn't for not. Yesterday I noticed a major dimming of my pj bulb, and tonight in the middle of watching a movie, there was loud pop and bye bye to the bulb. frown.gif Only 753 hours on it... I am not happy!
This couldn't happen at a worse time since there's no way I can afford a new bulb now.
I did see some talk here about AVS dealing with this "bad bulb" situation? Can someone enlighten me on what that is about?
I did buy mine from AVS but unfortunately the warranty in past due now.
Any advice how how to get a bulb really cheap is most welcome. Please and thank you.


Was the original lamp? Have you checked what series it is? If it is the original lamp and it was one of the older series I would at least see if avs can help.
post #9858 of 9975
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Originally Posted by veinboy View Post

I am using a short 3 foot long HDMI cable and was not aware that could be causing the lock up problem. Then I researched the Darbee Vision Darblet thread where Adam Darbee stated ""As for the Cables, we recommend at least a 6 ft cable as we have run into problems with 3 ft cables. Although I have a few customers who have told me they use one and it works fine."

Many experienced forum users have also attested to this fact/problem. Size (or length) matters.

By the way, I had no lock ups before using the Darblet like others have also mentioned in this thread.

The deep color issue was also mentioned in the Darblet thread on page 193.

I'm going to try a 6 foot HDMI cable with the Darblet first before messing with the firmware update or possibly remove the Darblet as a test.

Thanks for the advice!

What happens when yours locks up? Ive seen many need to plug it for hours. The one time it happened to me my screen when blank during a handshake and no controls responded. I did need to unplug it, but it was ready to go 5 minutes later.
post #9859 of 9975
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Was the original lamp? Have you checked what series it is? If it is the original lamp and it was one of the older series I would at least see if avs can help.

Yes, original lamp, baby'd for 3.5 years and this is what I get for it frown.gif
I have no idea how to check what series it is. On the side there are bunch of numbers...
722122608... I think... the last 3 digits are hard to read. ...and above those numbers looks like it says "01" or "OI".
post #9860 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Yes, original lamp, baby'd for 3.5 years and this is what I get for it frown.gif
I have no idea how to check what series it is. On the side there are bunch of numbers...
722122608... I think... the last 3 digits are hard to read. ...and above those numbers looks like it says "01" or "OI".

If it is 01 it might be the very first lamp type. The 03 lamps are the ones that are supposed to be fixed.
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Yes, original lamp, baby'd for 3.5 years and this is what I get for it frown.gif
I have no idea how to check what series it is. On the side there are bunch of numbers...
722122608... I think... the last 3 digits are hard to read. ...and above those numbers looks like it says "01" or "OI".

Original lamp from an RS40 would be a version 1 lamp. The version 3 lamps are much better lamps.
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post #9862 of 9975
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Yes, original lamp, baby'd for 3.5 years and this is what I get for it frown.gif
I have no idea how to check what series it is. On the side there are bunch of numbers...
722122608... I think... the last 3 digits are hard to read. ...and above those numbers looks like it says "01" or "OI".

The Version 3 lamp has a metal flapper in the air intake. There are pictures of it early on in this thread. I was one of the earliest to have a V3 and now have about 1100 hours on mine. It still looks bright.
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Thanks for the feedback and comments on the lamp guys. much appreciated smile.gif
post #9865 of 9975
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

What happens when yours locks up? Ive seen many need to plug it for hours. The one time it happened to me my screen when blank during a handshake and no controls responded. I did need to unplug it, but it was ready to go 5 minutes later.

The lock up occurs right after I turn on the projector followed by the OPPO which I learned to do in that order to prevent a handshake problem. Just unplugging it for 5 minutes fixed the handshake problem when I first got the projector.

But now with the lock up problem, usually all of the warning lights flash and there's no picture.

I have to pull the plug for 24 hours because every time I tried to restart it after 5 or 10 minutes, it wasn't enough time for my projector to reset and fire up a picture.

Waiting the 24 hour period and returning the unmatched rented movie is getting old after doing it so many times but I'm going to try the 6 foot HDMI cable first and if that doesn't work try eliminating the Darby as an alternative.
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Well..got my projector back. Took about 5 days for UPS to deliver it from S. California to Portland, Oregon. FedEx does in 2 days.

Had a bad feeling when I saw the box. Took a hit on one corner and the box is blown out from the top almost all the way to the bottom.

Front bezel is cracked on the right side and sounds like broken bits inside. Bezel damage is same corner as the box damage. Projector powers up, but no IDLA splash screen and it only responds to on/off commands. No other commands accepted from either the remote or controls on the rear panel. No video...

Don't have a good feeling about filing a claim with UPS. Projector was well packed by Mendtronix, but was not double boxed. I sent it down double boxed...

Unless someone has an idea as to why it will only respond to on/off commands, I might be in the market for a new projector.. I'm not happy about the bezel but can live with it if UPS denies the claim and I can get the projector working...
post #9867 of 9975
Well, you should have filed a claim with UPS immediately. Waiting might hurt you with the claim, but then again you might be fine.
Was the package just left at your house, or did someone actually sign for it?
I have had several claims in the past with UPS when I would get lots of shipments, and most of the time they didn't even question it.
One of them was for a $500 item and they didn't even bother to come out and look at it, they just paid the claim.
Might be a little different for a something valued at a few thousand.
Hope it works out for you, but I would try filing that claim asap.
post #9868 of 9975
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Originally Posted by pdxfj View Post

Well..got my projector back. Took about 5 days for UPS to deliver it from S. California to Portland, Oregon. FedEx does in 2 days.

Had a bad feeling when I saw the box. Took a hit on one corner and the box is blown out from the top almost all the way to the bottom.

Front bezel is cracked on the right side and sounds like broken bits inside. Bezel damage is same corner as the box damage. Projector powers up, but no IDLA splash screen and it only responds to on/off commands. No other commands accepted from either the remote or controls on the rear panel. No video...

Don't have a good feeling about filing a claim with UPS. Projector was well packed by Mendtronix, but was not double boxed. I sent it down double boxed...

Unless someone has an idea as to why it will only respond to on/off commands, I might be in the market for a new projector.. I'm not happy about the bezel but can live with it if UPS denies the claim and I can get the projector working...

Boy are you lucky. You should be able to get enough settlement from UPS to replace it with a newer model that is more reliable.
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Well I finally gave in and ran the 1.8 update. BTW. Works fine on windows 7 32bit.

Not sure if it makes any difference. Will have to wait and see

Does anyone know if you can revert back if you need to?
post #9870 of 9975
Lucky..yes and no.. I had less than 700 hours of use on the projector.. now that it is physically damaged the warranty from JVC is void. When talking with Mendtronix they said I will need to ship the projector to them again so they can fix it. I explained I do not want it back and only want a check from the insurance. They said that was not their normal policy, but they would see what they could do.

Voided warranty from JVC and no faith in the fact the projector will ever work right again.. Nah.. just give me the insurance money and I will buy a new projector. What are the chances the optical block is damaged? I'd say fairly high.. the cost of that alone is more than the projector is worth...

I'll post up pictures at a later time.. let the claims process go through first..
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