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post #121 of 231
They should partner or work with Tugg. It's really cool and has a pretty big catalog of about 500 titles. They are a service that allows people to decide what they want to see in theaters. Tugg.com.
post #122 of 231
LJG, a few questions here.

1. Will the server connect to a flat screen rather than just a projector for delivery?

2. If your home has distributed video would one be able to utilize it or is it locked down to one display?

Thanks!
post #123 of 231
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Originally Posted by Nick Kallis View Post

LJG, a few questions here.

1. Will the server connect to a flat screen rather than just a projector for delivery?

2. If your home has distributed video would one be able to utilize it or is it locked down to one display?

Thanks!

Nick:

Flat screen is fine, No distributed video however as each server is keyed into only one display only
post #124 of 231
LJG, I appreciate the quick response1!
post #125 of 231
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post


Nick:

Flat screen is fine, No distributed video however as each server is keyed into only one display only

So I guess it is connected through a standard HDMI connection?
post #126 of 231
Yes but Locked or keyed would be better word then connected through standard HDMI
post #127 of 231
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Yes but Locked or keyed would be better word then connected through standard HDMI

Is this an electronic lock? Such as in digital cinema projectors, where if the cable is unplugged then the marriage or pair of the projector and server is broken.

Or do you actually mean a physical lock, where there is a device that actually secures the cable to the display?
post #128 of 231
Electronic Lock, the server will play with only one HDMI device
post #129 of 231
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Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post

This seems like something that would just have an incredibly small customer base.One issue is the number of good films released. As was said ,if it included a big library of catalog as well......

Art

This! Frankly, I don't tust these guys (remember the bruhaha over DIVX here?). So, you shell out $35,000. You "rent" a couple of movies at $500 a pop, and then they go belly up. What happens to your $35,000?

I'll let the ultra rich buy into this. $35,000 is folding money for them.
post #130 of 231
Did Prima Cinema offer Brave to purchase?
post #131 of 231
So you wouldn't be able to connect this to your AVR, which your projector is plugged into? that just sounds ........ Am I missing something here?

EDIT: Anyone who knows could let me know if this'll work with a normal home theater setup like mine?

i.e. Prima, into AVR, into "gear", including 3D demuxer and/or Video processor (Darblet), then to single/dual projector, depending on flick...
Edited by rdjam - 7/19/12 at 1:19pm
post #132 of 231
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Originally Posted by rdjam View Post

So you wouldn't be able to connect this to your AVR, which your projector is plugged into? that just sounds ........ Am I missing something here?
EDIT: Anyone who knows could let me know if this'll work with a normal home theater setup like mine?
i.e. Prima, into AVR, into "gear", including 3D demuxer and/or Video processor (Darblet), then to single/dual projector, depending on flick...

This would work, however trying to distribute to more than one projector will not. Each Prima Server will be keyed to one display device only.
post #133 of 231
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Originally Posted by J.Mike Ferrara View Post


................ I don't tust these guys (remember the bruhaha over DIVX here?)....................



That's funny J. Mike, Prima's CEO is Jason Pang, and he was the first employee at DivX.......eek.gif



Jim
post #134 of 231
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Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post


Nothing, other than my opinion it will not succeed.


Ok streaming is not the same as downloading as you put it but it's still delivery via internet.


Actually I always refer to "downloading" in this application as "store-forward".


But whatever.



It not that either ... store and forward is a delivery method used in networking switching and can be used in getting your email delivered to an email program like outlook:)
post #135 of 231
Has anyone stepped up to the plate?
post #136 of 231
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Has anyone stepped up to the plate?
Lol - if it were "only" about $20,000 cheaper to get the headend unit I'd be playing with it right now.

I consider myself pretty "fortunate", but 30 to 40 large for this privilege is too much, in my view.

And believe me, there's nothing I'd like more than to watch more of these films at home on opening night... I'd be a model customer.
post #137 of 231
Hey everyone--I can answer some questions here regarding PRIMA Cinema. First, the price has been misquoted a number of places--it is $35K for the unit and $500 per movie viewed. Joining allows you access to the Universal Studios Bel Air circuit, and units are moving into houses now. Feel free to reach out with any questions!
post #138 of 231
Somehow I doubt that the target audience -- folks that not only have the dough, but are willing to spend it freely -- are likely to be lurking here on the forum. That's not to say that there are not a few well-to-do enthusiasts here, but I don't think they are in sufficient numbers to propel the Prima proposition towards critical mass.
post #139 of 231
There are other ways of skinning the cat such as servers from $1450 to $12,000 and ways of getting content legally that is not first release (currently playing commercially. I am not disclosing more. I'd give the Redray server ($1450) and Odemax, their distribution arm) a chance before I shelled out $35K for a server and paid $500 a copy. Nor would i mess with any of this unless I had a 4K projctor.
Edited by mark haflich - 12/13/12 at 6:30am
post #140 of 231
Thread Starter 
Are the titles available only Universal Pictures releases?
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Originally Posted by toddlok View Post

Hey everyone--I can answer some questions here regarding PRIMA Cinema. First, the price has been misquoted a number of places--it is $35K for the unit and $500 per movie viewed. Joining allows you access to the Universal Studios Bel Air circuit, and units are moving into houses now. Feel free to reach out with any questions!
post #141 of 231
Users probably not lurking here, but just wanted to participate and clear up any incorrect info.
post #142 of 231
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Originally Posted by odyssey View Post

Are the titles available only Universal Pictures releases?

Mainly Universal, with some smaller studios (such as Lionsgate-"Hunger Games")
post #143 of 231
Considering the Kaleidescape system we employ in our demo facility retails for 63k, and there's roughly 1-2k spent on movies per quarter (blu-ray), plus my partner and I still go see commercial films...I can totally see the justification for this system. Plus, judging from what I saw at CEDIA, 2k is certainly sufficient for the content- though toy projectors need not apply: better be DCI to hang with this crowd.

Dan
post #144 of 231
Is Hobbitt available on Prima?
post #145 of 231
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

Considering the Kaleidescape system we employ in our demo facility retails for 63k, and there's roughly 1-2k spent on movies per quarter (blu-ray), plus my partner and I still go see commercial films...I can totally see the justification for this system. Plus, judging from what I saw at CEDIA, 2k is certainly sufficient for the content- though toy projectors need not apply: better be DCI to hang with this crowd.
Dan
Apples and oranges. When looking at a product, even the most expensive ones, you have to look at the value proposition. If you've got a 63K Kscape system you can store thousand of movies, ANY movie you want, it can be watched throughout the home, has an awesome feature set and user interface etc.

This device costs 35K for a box that does nothing but allow you to play a movie for a $500, which you have a limited time you can watch. Most damning of all, if you're really lucky you get to see a movie you're actually interested in since most studios aren't participating. This is a failed business model right out of the gate, because it doesn't offer a value proposition that is going to entice the people who can afford it into buying it.
Edited by David Haddad - 12/13/12 at 12:06pm
post #146 of 231
There is a yearly fee?

And- can someone tell me if The Hobbitt is for sale on Prima Cinema?
post #147 of 231
I simply don't get the server costing $35K. The Redray server costs $1450. Previous commercial DCI servers can be had for $6K to $12K. I suspect (guessing) the price involves recoupment of start up expenses quickly because charging $500 for title renting is at the upper limit of what the target market would pay and the very limited number who will go this route would not rent enough titles to make the company a go. Maybe once the start up is recouped as it should be with servers at $35K (if enough rich cats can be found and enticed) $500 would not result in large amounts of profits. The Stdeo would take a huge chunk.



In all due respect, if you want to watch the Hobbit, just rent a commercial theater for a special showing for you and your friends... r
Edited by mark haflich - 12/14/12 at 3:33pm
post #148 of 231
Sigh... Could someone in the know just answer my question please? Is The Hobbitt available to buy through the Prima Cinema service? I would like to know. I don't really care about anyone's opinions on price or value, I just would like that one question answered...
post #149 of 231
Sorry. I don't think anyone here knows except the company representative posting. Why don't you just call or email them and get a quick accurate answer?.
post #150 of 231
Let me clear up a couple of things, and apologies as I haven't been to the forum for a bit.

First, there is no yearly fee; not sure where this came from, but it doesn't exist.

Second, unfortunately, "The Hobbitt" is not a feature available on PRIMA Cinema.

Next, we are talking to many of the studios, and do anticipate more titles to be available as the business grows. We've just launched the product, and I'm sure most people can attest to the fact that when a product launches, many times it doesn't have everything you would like, but you work to get it there.

Finally, considering the extremely high interest of the product to the target market, we do feel this is a viable business opportunity, including the overseas markets.
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