Prima Cinema - Page 4

Is that all? I though it would download that title into a blacklist never to play on any of your equipment ever again - for life!

Both Deluxe and Technicolor.

I agree with Glimmie that there is no viable market or critical mass to reach for this. Hi-end niche market won't be able to sustain this business model in the foreseeable future and mass market already got Apple, Netflix, etc,.

On the other hand, if this thing were able to fly, K system has a lot more reason to succeed than Prime Cinema.

K has sold more than 4k systems, has a closed secured box, already use HDD or network to beam some niche content to the customer, has great metadata service and UI. K could release a dedicated player for day&date material.
If studios pull the plug, you only lose the investment for the player.


Last, I believe when the network infrastructure takes a quantum leap, average FPD size reach 80", and studios finally find a DRM they are comfortable with, day&date will come regardless of studio/cinema owner politics.

Yup, Mark has been distributing his MET showings in the clear using regular MPEG2 for many years now, both in the US aswell as internationally. In the US primarily shown on a pre-show network/system. Overhere they use Barco DP-100s, and in Scandinavia it is a mix of DCi set-ups and lower grade systems in community houses.

As his various SPMTE presentations point out Opera is generally the first to use new (broadcast) technology, like subscription cable, or motion pictures with matching sound way back in the nineteenth century.

In the old days there was this French service that distributed Opera and Dance and other (high-)culture performances in HD-MAC. Once a month to periferal locations. Production values (budget) was reportedly low, but it was HD, they since moved to MPEG SD, not sure if it still exist.

Surely whoever the investors are in Prima have done the calculus and have determined how many financially well off people are likely to buy a $35K server and periodically pay $500 to see a first-run movie in the comfort of their own home. Of course, the target audience would be narrowed somewhat to those who have no aversion to risking substantial sums of capital on a venture that has a 50/50 chance of success/failure. Most of the uber rich I have encountered, however, strike me as being rather prudent with their money...drug lords perhaps being the exception.

How is Prima plan on getting the content to individual..? DVB-S2 8psk with MPEG-4 via Ku would work to get a high band width, and also have encryption.

High Speed internet would work if they Prima could deliver on their end. On their website it seems that would be the way they are going to deliver with job openings posted.

High Speed internet pre-loaded

I thought that "streaming" and "downloading" we're two different things:

Streaming is real-time playback where the bandwidth of the file is optimized such that as the file arrives at its destination it can be played back in real time.

Downloading is where the file is downloaded in its entirety first before it is played back at its destination.

That makes Prima Cinema a system that relies on downloading to deliver its movies, not streaming.

$100 and I get to keep the movie, and I would be interested. I would be flexible on the release date to make that happen.

Who said anything about Prima streaming movies!!!!

Glimmie in post 80

Perhaps you didn't see my post 77?


And what does Glimmie know about Prima???????

There is definately a market for Higher quality downloads for Rent or Purchase at a premium, day and date of Bluray release, however this is not what Prima offers.

Hopefully in the future Prima can re-release movies day and date of Bluray release for rent or purchase. This will not be an option at the inception of service.

Funny, I was just talking to my wife about this last night. I think I would be much more interested if there was the additional ability to view catalog titles at the higher quality.

BTW, is there any need for different projector calibration settings with this different source?

Kevin

In addition it would be nice to see 4K content soon after launch! Or immediately.

Hi Lon, So would this work outside the US, Europe?

Peter:

Markets outside the US will be available, I am not sure which ones though

Thanks Lon,

Well I'll take 8 systems in total if they can also sell to UK, Spain (Ibiza), and Moscow - Land of the most decadently luxurious homes I have yet seen anywhere.

BTW I am also pleased to report that the Kremlin was not blown up during the making of Mission Impossible.

Nothing, other than my opinion it will not succeed.

Ok streaming is not the same as downloading as you put it but it's still delivery via internet.

Actually I always refer to "downloading" in this application as "store-forward".

But whatever.

Uh- I did read your post, I don't know what Glimmie knows about Prima, he continued to argue that downloading and then playing is streaming, I believe you that Prima does not stream as I spoke to the people demoing it in NJ...

Anything else need to be covered????

All I was doing was clearing up what I thought the definition of "streaming" was to reconcile what was being talked about here.

Seems to me that anyone who has the money to buy this system and can pay for the movies would careless about the "what ifs" which have taken over this thread.

I'm sure they don't care about how the content is delivered or if ultimately the company will fail.

I have certainly lost more than 35K due to the rapid depreciation of electronics. But ultimately I got enjoyment out of those items so it was worth it. And I'm by no means super rich!

So the ones who want it and can afford it will certainly do it. Because before now it wasn't even available at all. So as a famous credit card commercial would say, it was priceless! Compared to priceless, 35k and 500/movie would be a bargain!

Chris:

So your in?

Unfortunately, im definitely not one of those super rich!

I just blew my last 35k and then some for the Barco. Im all spent out!

If I had the money I would!

To me day/date content is the ultimate goal!

I could imagine having your A/V consultant and or IT person on stand by to figure out why your Movie will not play. A good Docsis 3.0 modem would handle the bandwidth no problem. I am curious on what the main unit in a potential customers would look like and what the specifications are..?

I had originally heard this system was $20 K, and was "thinking about it", especially if the price dropped over the next couple of years.

But at $35K... meh. I couldn't justify that.

$500 a movie is a lot - I'd watch way more at $250.

Lastly, was Amir joking about the player having a sensor to limit the audience??

I hope so, as I routinely have a dozen people over for movie night... I would NEVER consider this system if there was a limitation on my guests - it would defeat the whole purpose of their uber-rich customers bringing over friends to watch in their uber-amazing home theaters.

I am pretty sure that the Prima people MUST surely realize that their customers are not your average family of four sitting on the couch...

Good to see you again rdjam. And yes, I was joking. But since no one else commented on it, I was not about to say so. I wonder if it has GPS positioning requirement which should be fine in its intended use.

LOL! Thank the heavens.

I was about to let rip on that, because it would be a major fumble to limit the viewers in a private theater at the high end.

Phew - OK, officially a joke... Blood pressure dropping now... chuckle

BTW - did you get the email I sent you last night?

I saw your website and sent an email on the info@ link - planning a new home theater, and the audio stuff you're doing looks very cool.

This seems like something that would just have an incredibly small customer base.One issue is the number of good films released. As was said ,if it included a big library of catalog as well......

Art