Ultra-Clear DLP Glasses for Under $60 - Page 10

If your TV has a DLP-Link on/off setting or the choice between DLP-Link and IR in the 3D Menu's then the DLP-Link signal "issue" for IR glasses setups isn't a problem at all for you.
Even if you don't have that capability on your TV, there is no flash or flicker visible on an IR setup as a result of the DLP-Link signal for TV's like my old Samsung that do not have a DLP-Link on/off setting in the 3D Menu at all. What it does cause is an apparent hue to black and the hue color depends on the brand of TV. Samsungs have a deep dark blood red blended into the black which can be noticed in the credits screens of movies and such and I can never remember if the Mitsu's is a green or blue hue, blue I think.
There's at least one brand of IR glasses that DOES filter it out and eliminate that "problem" but they're crazy expensive.

There are no rainbows with the IR UC Glasses, at least not on my Samsung or my buddy's new 73" DLP Mitsu set with the two different brands of IR glasses being simultaneously used to watch 3D content on both TV's at different times for testing.
There's also no ghosting or haziness that I've ever seen with them either, although being in the incorrect L/R mode does make 3D look hazy and sometimes out of focus to me on my TV with an IR setup.
In the correct L/R mode with an IR setup on my old Samsung DLP TV that can't turn DLP-Link off, I'd say 99.999 % of the time the entire picture looks completely normal, always totally crystal clear, sync is rock solid even with the curtains open with 5 windows in the room during the day and no trees outside, and 3D just works.

Not everything black looks all colored up (tinted from the DLP-Link signal) with an IR setup on a TV that can't disable DLP-Link.
I only notice it on "fade to black" screens and credits screens normally, if at all. I could see where a space movie or space documentary might make it more apparent but I don't even recall seeing it at all during Resident Evil Afterlife or Avatar other than during the credits and it certainly wasn't a distraction at all if it was noticeable or I'd actually remember seeing it...
Plus I have a feeling I'd rather have the hue'd black than rainbows myself, but it really comes down to personal preferences and a personal decision/opinion which is least distracting from the 3D viewing experience or even downright annoying to see.

I strongly encourage people to try more than one brand of glasses and not just one type or the other (DLP-Link "vs" IR)...
There's no one perfect solution for the older TV's that can't disable the DLP-Link signal yet (that doesn't cost a major mint) and what works great for one person might look like total crap to someone else or vice versa.
There is no one "buy this, it's awesome" solution to 3D unless price and total cost is your main concern, in which case you can't beat the DLP-Link UC's for what they do at that price.

I hear you Nickel. I had the same issue. I own the UC's, Viewsonics, Optoma, and recently received my Crystal Eyes 5. The only DLP Link glasses that eliminate the rainbows are the CE5's. They are fantastic, better contrast, rechargeable via usb as well. They are 2nd in comfort to the UC's for me. Pricey though at $175/pair

Received my UCs yesterday. They are very comfortable, but I was unable to test them because they accidentally sent IR glasses. They are in the process of exchanging them. I can already tell that I like them more than my Viewsonics so I am going to sell my Viewsonics and buy more pairs of UCs.

I'm about to get the regular 3Dcorp emitter - here's hoping it works well with the UC IR glasses.

Has anyone done a successful exchange with Ultimate3DHeaven? I ordered the DLP Link glasses, but I do not like them. I want to exchange them for an IR model. I wonder if I should just buy two pairs of IR glasses from them and sell the DLP Link ones on ebay instead of buying one new pair or IR glasses and try to exchange the DLP set for an IR set.

Anyone want to buy a slightly used set of UC DLP Link glasses?

bhalblower, meet nickels55. nickels55, meet bhalbower.

I had posted to him earlier about switching glasses but deleted it after a few days of no response to it.

It never works out when I try to play matchmaker.

So sorry I didn't respond. I must have been brain dead when reading the thread. I didn't realize your comment about wanting to exchange your DLP Link glasses for IR model glasses was directed at me. If you sent me a message, I didn’t get it. I only login to AV Forum when I am about to post. I was able to exchange the IR glasses with Ultimate3DHeaven and my DLP-Link glasses are scheduled to arrive today. They refunded me the cost of my return shipping. I am going to try them out tonight. If I like them, I am probably going to put my Viewsonic DLP-Link glasses on Ebay. If they sell, I will be purchasing another pair of the UC DLP Link glasses. Ultimate3DHeaven offered to give me some free 3D blu ray sample discs when I order my second pair to compensate me for their mix up. I might be willing to purchase your pair of glasses instead though. I will post my evaluation of the UC tomorrow.

If your purchase is still very recent, they will exchange them and just charge you 10% restocking fee. If you tell them they were supposed to be IR glasses, maybe you can get them to waive the 10% fee.

I have decided using nVidia and DLP link at the same time is completely unacceptable, so I will be placing my third order with 3DHeaven for more DLP Link glasses.

FYI: They are completely out right now, but are supposed to get an order of 2,000 in tomorrow.

bhalbower no worries about my message, I only left it up for like a day and decided it was risky so I just changed my post the next morning. You'd had to have stalked here to see it.

How did you talk to anyone? My emails to ultimate3dHeaven went ignored.

With a 10% restocking fee and the cost of shipping I'm better off selling them on ebay. They are still pretty much brand new except for a few hours of use. My IR glasses have arrived, so I'll test them tonight and figure out my next move. I will probably just buy two sets of Ultra Clear IR glasses and attempt to exchange the DLP Link set for IR... or off to ebay they go. Not sure yet.

Let me see how things go tonight with my comparison of my Viewsonics to the UCs. If the picture is pretty close and I don’t have any sync issues, I might be willing to make a deal with you for yours.

Communication is a little difficult with Ultimate3DHeaven. They don’t give out a telephone number so all communication is via email. I think that their support staff doesn’t work everyday because some days I would get a response and some days I wouldn’t. I did have to send one of my questions over and over again to get a response.

I was so close to ordering these....

but, in the end? I ended up going with multiple 2 packs of the Xpand 102's.... I'll have 4red and 4 blue. Hopefully the blue will use the same batteries. I did this to make the batteries consistant to what I already own.

On Sat night I found I had dead batteries in 2 of my original red 102's. Took me forever to hunt down the replacements that came with them.

Being on the fence about getting another set of UC DLP Link glasses or this IR model I have a few questions:

1. Rainbows. Are the rainbows as bad with these glasses as the DLP Link ones, non-existent, or only occasionally?

2. Blacks and dark colors - contrast. Do these glasses have reddish blacks and washed out colors? Or, is that something that the flashing DLP Link does that makes this effect on all IR glasses used on DLP Link sets?

I like my DLP set of these glasses, but they do not sync very well in daylight. I can live with that if the picture quality is better on the DLP Link glasses.

Thanks!

I'm not seeing any rainbows with my Xpand 102's. I'll try to shoot back through the thread for a more specific description of the rainbows.

the DLP Link flash washes out the picture. You really don't want to mix IR and DLP Link.

The UC glasses use the very standard 2032 battery.

Since I can't turn off the DLP Link signal, what is the difference if I mix them as long as they both work? If I am only using IR glasses the TV is still sending out the DLP link signal, and the emitter doesn't interfere with the DLP Link glasses. So, I see no good reason not to mix glasses types, especially if you are testing out a bunch of brands like I am doing now.

If the IR glasses do not block the white flash? Or if the the DLP-Link cannot be turned off? People report a washed out PQ.


I just use DLP-Link glasses and all seems well.

If you can't turn off the DLP flash because you have a pre 2010 model, you really should use the DLP-Link glasses. I originally purchanged the Mits starter kit with the IR glasses. When comparing them to the DLP-Link glasses, I sold the IR glasses on Ebay because they washed out the picture significantly.

I have two Optoma BG-ZD101's with an Acer front projector, will these Ultra Clear's work along with the Optoma's without inversion problems?

I'm seeing this too with my ultraclear DLP link glasses. As I tilt my head up or down I see fairly large color shift. I don't really notice this when watching a movie becasue my head is stationary, but the fact that it can do it still bothers me. Any theories of what exactly causes this? Is it just a poor coating on the glasses that could be removed maybe?

Yes. DLP-Link glasses in general were designed originally for front projection. If you have a rear project DLP TV, you have to change the signal to reverse in the TV menu because the light is coming from the other direction.

This leads me back to thinking there is no inexpensive perfect pair of glasses. Go with IR glasses and live with washed out colors and reddish blacks, or go DLP Link and have sync issues and rainbows.

Looks like I'm stuck with sub-standard 3D until I invest in an expensive set of CrystalEyes 5 glasses at around $175. I have yet to hear of a better DLP Link option in the massive amount of research that I've done on this subject. Geez, you'd think I'm training to teach a class on this...

I have no idea. The Viewsonics are like a vice on my head though, very uncomfortable. The Crystal Eyes 5 DLP Link glasses are by far the best DLP link glasses (no rainbows or color shifting, rechargeable, best contrast, decent comfort 2nd to UC's for me). If I had to rebuy glasses I would buy a pair of CE5's for myself and UC's for the rest.

"As I tilt my head up or down I see fairly large color shift. I don't really notice this when watching a movie becasue my head is stationary, but the fact that it can do it still bothers me."

Umm, If I am driving in my car my DLP Links stop working completely.

I have a pair of CE5s and a pair of UC DLPs. I love the CE5s (clearer, stronger colors) but I've found that in dark scenes (i.e. underwater scenes in Piranha 3D, and forest scenes in Legend of the Guardian) the CE5s lose sync quite a bit whereas the UCs don't.

On what brand of tv?

Mits 82838, viewing distance 16', moving closer did not seem to make a difference. I've noticed this on at least several different movies, the CE5s always lost sync in the dark scenes. On "Legends of the Guardian" and "How to Train Your Dragon" (especially the beginning) it was so annoying that I had to switch to the UCs.

Only time I have any Link issues is with incandescent bulbs that point directly at the glasses. Only then do my UC's lose Link. I, personally, don't have any Link issues with any other DLP Link Glasses (CE5, Viewsonics, Optomas). UC's work wonderfully in diffuse lighting. I usually watch with diffuse lighting or a backlight only so it isn't a problem for me at all.