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post #31 of 119
I bought AVP when it first came out and popped it back in to watch a few weeks ago and it played fine.
post #32 of 119
the only title I ever had problems with was the hellboy 2 from universal. it went dead on two differnt copies. one was a brand new one and another was a rental copy. I dont remember ever having that problem with dvds.

Jacob
post #33 of 119
Before finding this thread I thought I'm the only one. I have about 12 discs that can no longer play. Can't remember all the titles but they include:

Ronin
Trading Places
Coming to America
Last Samurai
Sahara
Bruce and Lloyd (from Get Smart)
Unfaithful
-- the rest I can't remember.
post #34 of 119
these posts just fuel my OCD.
post #35 of 119
Yikes, scary stuff.
I hope all my last a few more years, hopefully HD will cheap enough to make it reasonable to dump everything to HD (and eventually back those up too). Thank god for AnyDVDHD since at least we have the option, although some players make it a pain to play off HD I think.

One of the reasons I dislike DRM. It just means the pirates get stuff that works for ages while the people who pay don't. Already lots of music has gone bad when the stores have gone under and the DRM can no longer check in with the motehrship and the same has happened with applications/game software too.
post #36 of 119
Having issues with all five Planet of the Apes. Says I need an update for the player, TMT5. TMT3 plays 1 and 2.

Maybe not as Corel plays fine.
post #37 of 119
I picked up American Psycho on Black Friday and tried to play it last night and no go on 4 different players! Only one of the players would even try to load the menu, it would show the picture with no graphics to click on and the picture would have drop outs. The other players wouldn't do anything but a black screen? I know it's not Fox but thought it may help someone?
post #38 of 119
If the disc(s) do not play on multiple players, then I would say it's definitely a disc issue. If it fails to play only on one player, it may be the player/optics starting to go bad.
post #39 of 119
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Before finding this thread I thought I'm the only one. I have about 12 discs that can no longer play. Can't remember all the titles but they include:

Ronin
Trading Places
Coming to America
Last Samurai
Sahara
Bruce and Lloyd (from Get Smart)
Unfaithful
-- the rest I can't remember.



Greetings,

No problem with Ronin. I will check Unfaithful..


Regards,
post #40 of 119
Does anyone else think it might not be a bad idea to have a sticky post where we can discuss all of the problematic discs, not just Fox? Perhaps keep a list of those known to be culprits on the first page? I know many of us have large collections and having to go through each disc in a paranoid rage could take months.
post #41 of 119
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Originally Posted by cjr1 View Post

... many of us have large collections and having to go through each disc in a paranoid rage could take months.

It probably would take years for me -- my Panny DMP-BD35 sometimes takes several minutes to load a Blu-ray title
post #42 of 119
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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post

It probably would take years for me -- my Panny DMP-BD35 sometimes takes several minutes to load a Blu-ray title

I hear ya, I am nearing 900 BD's and obviously can't watch them all over again in a timely manner. That's why it would be nice to be able to see what movies people have had problems with and focus on them.
post #43 of 119
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Originally Posted by Flexx View Post

If the disc(s) do not play on multiple players, then I would say it's definitely a disc issue. If it fails to play only on one player, it may be the player/optics starting to go bad.

I checked the Fox and Lionsgate discs in my collection and can confirm that Basic Instinct went bad. It failed to play on 3 different players of 2 brands with latest firmware and it played fine about a year ago. For the past few weeks I've had a couple communications with Lionsgate and they have been unhelpful.

Hope this is just an anomaly from the dawn of the format and it's over and done with...
post #44 of 119
110 BD owned discs. All have been watched more than once.

1 issue, ever.

It was with Pineapple Express, and all I had to do with disable Blu-ray Live on my PS3. I'm sure it's patched and fixed now to avoid this step...

Why is my case so different?
post #45 of 119
I've just stumbled across this thread I'll have to check my copies tonight also as I have those same disc Ralph when they were released. I'll check it on all my blu rays tonight.
post #46 of 119
checked on several listed here, the only one which has now decided to not play is Basic Instinct.

What the laser is required to read is material that is very tiny, and it only takes a very tiny defect to ruin the play-ability. From what I have read and experienced with LD, DVD and CD is that if the defect is at the beggining, it seems to be fatal. In the middle of playing, it might appear as a small glitch, where the thing freezes, jumps for a moment or some other glitch (and only does it occaisionally and not always)

I have a number of discs, and given I have a number of kids, many of those discs have plenty of stratches on the surface, but seldom ever are a problem, so it must be something inside the coating when there is a real problem and so it seems with basic instincts..........
post #47 of 119
Encountered playback issues with the Avatar theatrical version BD that was inside the UK Steelbook. Played fine couple of times but it stutters all over the place now.
post #48 of 119
Hi Ralph I've just tried speed and fantastic 4. Both movies were worked fine on the bd 30.
post #49 of 119
AVP plays fine but there is some subtle poping and ticking noises in at least the first couple of scenes which I think was always there.

Basic Instinct, Master & Commander, Kingdom of Heaven, no problems.

The Descent, plays fine but still has some sort of menu problem. If I try to go to the Menu during play or let the movie play to the end it returns to the Menu page but the screen is black and only the accompanying sound loop can be heard. I have to press Stop and then Play and go through some of the preliminary chapters to get back to a visual of the Menu page.

My player is an ancient (at this point) Sony S300 with the latest (5.50 I think) firmware.
Not only does it not have BD Live but there's no internet jack on it. I'm afraid to update to a newer player, I'd really like a new OPPO to replace my DV-981 that I use to watch DVD's, but as long as I stay on top of my firmware updates my BRD's have been playing without problems I have read some have with the "Live" players. I have no interest in BD Live (or Digital Copies), I just want to watch the movie and supplements, reliably.
post #50 of 119
hey, were do all the fellow victims of rotting live, perhaps they all got a bad batch of discs?
post #51 of 119
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Originally Posted by FLTWS View Post

Not only does it not have BD Live but there's no internet jack on it. I'm afraid to update to a newer player, I'd really like a new OPPO to replace my DV-981 ...I have no interest in BD Live (or Digital Copies), I just want to watch the movie and supplements, reliably.

So don't connect it to the 'net. Simple enough. I'm using a PS3 which is not and never will be connected to the internet.


For the sake of staying on topic, I'll add a disc related comment. As of yet, I haven't experienced any problems with my older discs although, obviously, I can't watch them all regularly.

More specifically to this subject and the idea of making it a sticky. I have no problem with a permanent thread about discs that may suffer from age related issues. But, I'd limit it to discs that are at least two years old and are known to have played fine at one time...before they became problematic. Otherwise this would just become a general complaint thread about things not working (ie. "I just bought Avatar and it won't load").

Fortunately, as of now, I don't have any bad discs to report (fingers crossed).
post #52 of 119
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

hey, were do all the fellow victims of rotting live, perhaps they all got a bad batch of discs?

probably so or something similar.......I just remembered that I have some cds in the pick up truck that have spent more than fifteen or 20 years on the road and always in the pick up, baked in the heat, left in the sun, frooze way down past below zero, messed with by the kids, heavily scarred on BOTH sides, left on the floorboard to be stepped on, dashboard to warp in the sun (but never did warp) yet still remain perfectly playable........so when I have a pristine BD go bad, it has to be a manufacturing defect
post #53 of 119
I just bought A Walk in the Clouds blu ray from Amazon, and it won't play in my Pioneer BDP-320. I don't know if it is the disc or the player. It plays the 20th century logo and music perfectly, but then the screen goes black. I am sending my video signal through component and am wondering if, since the new law went into affect, maybe blu ray discs have disabled high def component signals in the software.
post #54 of 119
A friend of mine rented from Netflix, My Dog Skip, which would not play on either my Sony S470 or his Samsung BDP1500 [which used to be mine but I sold it to him cheap]. Anyways, will possibly try a FW update if I encounter any other playback issues with new titles.

Has anybody had any problems with this title?

BTW, after reading the above post, I don't think it has anything to do with the new law as both my friend and I are HDMI all the way as far as the TV and player are concerned.
post #55 of 119
I took A Walk in the Clouds blu ray to a local electronics dealer and asked an associate if he would see if it would play in one of their players. It did. Apparently (and I predicted this to my nephew) if you are not all HDMI you will not be able to view any blu ray released after December 31, 2010. I knew the players had to follow this law, but I was hoping that the software wouldn't. I have a Pioneer Elite 49 which does not have HDMI and an RCA 38 inch digital tv which has a spectacular picture and I have to use component to send a 1080i signal from my Pioneer 320 blu ray player to my receiver and then my tv. I am glad I bought a lot of pre-2011 blu ray since I am not ready to buy a new tv and receiver!!
post #56 of 119
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Hi Ralph I've just tried speed and fantastic 4. Both movies were worked fine on the bd 30.

Greetings,

Good to hear Frank..thanks.


Regards,
post #57 of 119
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Originally Posted by rlittrell View Post

I took A Walk in the Clouds blu ray to a local electronics dealer and asked an associate if he would see if it would play in one of their players. It did. Apparently (and I predicted this to my nephew) if you are not all HDMI you will not be able to view any blu ray released after December 31, 2010. I knew the players had to follow this law, but I was hoping that the software wouldn't. I have a Pioneer Elite 49 which does not have HDMI and an RCA 38 inch digital tv which has a spectacular picture and I have to use component to send a 1080i signal from my Pioneer 320 blu ray player to my receiver and then my tv. I am glad I bought a lot of pre-2011 blu ray since I am not ready to buy a new tv and receiver!!

Start ripping all of your Blu-rays and watch everything with an HD media streamer or XBMC.
post #58 of 119
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Originally Posted by rlittrell View Post

I took A Walk in the Clouds blu ray to a local electronics dealer and asked an associate if he would see if it would play in one of their players. It did. Apparently (and I predicted this to my nephew) if you are not all HDMI you will not be able to view any blu ray released after December 31, 2010. I knew the players had to follow this law, but I was hoping that the software wouldn't. I have a Pioneer Elite 49 which does not have HDMI and an RCA 38 inch digital tv which has a spectacular picture and I have to use component to send a 1080i signal from my Pioneer 320 blu ray player to my receiver and then my tv. I am glad I bought a lot of pre-2011 blu ray since I am not ready to buy a new tv and receiver!!

What new law are you talking about?
post #59 of 119
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Originally Posted by Foxy7 View Post

What new law are you talking about?

I think the reference is to the Analog Sunset, the software implementation use of ICT is discussed in the 7th paragraph of this recent article.
post #60 of 119
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Originally Posted by Flexx View Post

I think the reference is to the Analog Sunset, the software implementation use of ICT is discussed in the 7th paragraph of this recent article.

Thanks for the article. I have an older HDTV with one DVI input. I use the DVI input with my combo player. I have a PS3 connected using component.This strikes me as yet another problem associated with using Blu Ray.For those who are interested the "Desperado" BD played fine over component using my PS3.
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