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post #481 of 554
9/14/11 at 6:27pm
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A temporary workaround seems to be going into the PS3 menu and selecting "Audio Settings" -> "HDMI" -> "Manual" -> Deselect all 7.1 and 5.1 LPCM output options. After doing this, I was able to use PLII/Neo6 again.

I do that and I get DD5.1 at 48 KHz. Is that a 5.1 core of the DD+ encoding or PS3 converting?

It kind of renders the PS3 Fat not very useful for BDs, since it can't bitstream DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA. I wonder if it will allow output of the uncompressed LPCM surround tracks available on some BDs.

But hey, it's a working workaround!
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post #482 of 554
10/10/11 at 9:01am
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ATTENTION: There's a new streaming video search engine available--for details, see "TVAndMoviesNow.com: Streaming Video Search Engine Extraordinaire!" Among other things it can filter for titles with 5.1 sound, making this post (and the tedious maintenance thereof) completely unnecessary. Therefore this list will never be updated again . It's been real--see ya!
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post #483 of 554
10/10/11 at 9:08am
Mike - thanks for all your hard work here!
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post #484 of 554
10/10/11 at 10:53am
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ATTENTION: There's a new streaming video search engine available--for details, see "TVAndMoviesNow.com: Streaming Video Search Engine Extraordinaire!" Among other things it can filter for titles with 5.1 sound, making this post (and the tedious maintenance thereof) completely unnecessary. Therefore this list will never be updated again . It's been real--see ya!

SWEET!!! Thanks!!
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post #485 of 554
10/10/11 at 12:36pm
Awesome! Thanks for posting the link in this thread. Ironically, the new thread being a sticky actually caused me to scroll right past it when looking at new posts. Where's the duncecap emote when you need it.
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post #486 of 554
10/10/11 at 12:37pm
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Awesome! Thanks for posting the link in this thread. Ironically, the new thread being a sticky actually caused me to scroll right past it when looking at new posts. Where's the duncecap emote when you need it.

Hmmm. That's what I get for requesting a sticky (only the 2nd sticky to be added to that forum).
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post #487 of 554
10/11/11 at 7:55pm
Does anyone know if the new WD Live 2011 model does Netflix 5.1? (WDBHG70000NBK-HESN) My LG BD 390 has started to die and I am thinking of the Live Plus or the new one for Netflix and networked streaming. Thanks.
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post #488 of 554
10/14/11 at 6:18pm
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Does anyone know if the new WD Live 2011 model does Netflix 5.1? (WDBHG70000NBK-HESN) My LG BD 390 has started to die and I am thinking of the Live Plus or the new one for Netflix and networked streaming. Thanks.



Found my own answer, yes it does.
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post #489 of 554
10/17/11 at 7:59pm
New firmware for LG PZ750 now has 5.1 DD+ netflix
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post #490 of 554
10/19/11 at 12:32am
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Hi guys,

I'm on the PS3 application team at Netflix. Sorry about this 7.1 LPCM bug; we should have it fixed for the next release.

Anyone update Netflix to v2.05 on their PS3 to see if this has corrected the bug?

Also PS3 has a new firmware v3.73 ... curious if these two updates can now allow PS3 to bitstream Dolby Digital Plus when streaming Netflix.
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post #491 of 554
10/19/11 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Anyone update Netflix to v2.05 on their PS3 to see if this has corrected the bug?

Also PS3 has a new firmware v3.73 ... curious if these two updates can now allow PS3 to bitstream Dolby Digital Plus when streaming Netflix.

Possibly the Slim; the Fat now outputs Dolby D, probably the DD core of the DD+--it seems weak in comparison to DD+ from the same titles, bitstreamed by my Roku 2 and Panasonic BD player. (I use the opening after-the-plane-crash-on-the-beach scene of the Lost pilot as my 5.1 test material).
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post #492 of 554
10/20/11 at 7:31pm
I can record 2 seconds of Netflix DD audio via optical from the PS3 fat before the copy protection kicks in; it's 640kbps so it must be a conversion rather than a core.
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post #493 of 554
10/20/11 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Anyone update Netflix to v2.05 on their PS3 to see if this has corrected the bug?

Also PS3 has a new firmware v3.73 ... curious if these two updates can now allow PS3 to bitstream Dolby Digital Plus when streaming Netflix.

The Slim does not output DD+ after the upgrades. I have a PS3 Slim hooked into a Pioneer 1021 receiver and it's reporting Dolby Digital. When I plug in the Roku 2, it displays Dolby Digital Plus.

To use Mike's example, if you heard the opening scene of Lost on the PS3 versus the Roku 2, you can easily hear the difference.
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post #494 of 554
10/20/11 at 9:40pm
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The Slim does not output DD+ after the upgrades. I have a PS3 Slim hooked into a Pioneer 1021 receiver and it's reporting Dolby Digital. When I plug in the Roku 2, it displays Dolby Digital Plus.

To use Mike's example, if you heard the opening scene of Lost on the PS3 versus the Roku 2, you can easily hear the difference.

Hi Mike and RangerOne, I have a Slim as well going into a Denon. So guess I will live with that then, thanks for the respond.
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post #495 of 554
10/21/11 at 6:10am
michaeltscott .. since the thread has become a discussion of de-codes, will it go back to it's original purpose or not .. ?? No need for me to subscribe any longer if updates will no longer take place .. thanks for your past efforts ..
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post #496 of 554
10/21/11 at 8:50am
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michaeltscott .. since the thread has become a discussion of de-codes, will it go back to it's original purpose or not .. ?? No need for me to subscribe any longer if updates will no longer take place .. thanks for your past efforts ..

I tried to make that clear in the notice a few posts back and on top of the list: "Therefore this list will never be updated again ."
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post #497 of 554
10/21/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I tried to make that clear in the notice a few posts back and on top of the list: "Therefore this list will never be updated again ."

Exactly why I asked .. did see that post .. thanks again ..
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post #498 of 554
10/21/11 at 10:27pm
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The Slim does not output DD+ after the upgrades. I have a PS3 Slim hooked into a Pioneer 1021 receiver and it's reporting Dolby Digital. When I plug in the Roku 2, it displays Dolby Digital Plus.

To use Mike's example, if you heard the opening scene of Lost on the PS3 versus the Roku 2, you can easily hear the difference.

Neither the PS3 Slim or the Fat ever bitstreamed Netflix or Vudu DD+. The Fat has a hardware limitation, the Slim has a software limitation that Sony seems unwilling (or unable) to fix.
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post #499 of 554
10/22/11 at 5:54am
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

Neither the PS3 Slim or the Fat ever bitstreamed Netflix or Vudu DD+. The Fat has a hardware limitation, the Slim has a software limitation that Sony seems unwilling (or unable) to fix.

I thought the slim PS3 did bitstream DD+ on VUDU. While it does say PCM, the sound quality is superb on movies listed as DD+.
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post #500 of 554
10/22/11 at 7:01am
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I thought the slim PS3 did bitstream DD+ on VUDU. While it does say PCM, the sound quality is superb on movies listed as DD+.

I agree--the PS3 does a good job of decoding DD+ from VUDU, but it is decoding it internally. In the case of DD+ from Netflix I have no idea what it's doing. Before this last update it seemed to produce stereo, wrapped up as 8 channel LPCM. Now it produces a lame version of surround, apparently transcoding to DD. I'd prefer the LPCM, if it could do as good a job of decoding as it does for the VUDU player (or for its BD playing function). It should be noted that it's not the PS3, per se, but the use of the PS3 by different programs written by different groups.

Right now, I'd much rather watch in 720p on my BD player with bitstreamed DD+ than 1080p from the PS3 with its crappy handling of the sound. But in generally I stopped using the PS3 and Xbox for video (leaving me with very little use for my PS3 altogether), switching to the Roku 2 for Netflix and my BD player for VUDU. The Roku 2 draws literally 1% as much power as my launch model 60GB PS3 and is absolutely silent.
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post #501 of 554
10/22/11 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I agree--the PS3 does a good job of decoding DD+ from VUDU, but it is decoding it internally. In the case of DD+ from Netflix I have no idea what it's doing. Before this last update it seemed to produce stereo, wrapped up as 8 channel LPCM. Now it produces a lame version of surround, apparently transcoding to DD. I'd prefer the LPCM, if it could do as good a job of decoding as it does for the VUDU player (or for its BD playing function). It should be noted that it's not the PS3, per se, but the use of the PS3 by different programs written by different groups.

Right now, I'd much rather watch in 720p on my BD player with bitstreamed DD+ than 1080p from the PS3 with its crappy handling of the sound. But in generally I stopped using the PS3 and Xbox for video (leaving me with very little use for my PS3 altogether), switching to the Roku 2 for Netflix and my BD player for VUDU. The Roku 2 draws literally 1% as much power as my launch model 60GB PS3 and is absolutely silent.

My slim is much quieter than my old 60GB fat model. I'm still willing to bet that my slim PS3 is decoding DD+ on VUDU as it sounds to good to be standard DD.
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post #502 of 554
10/22/11 at 11:29am
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My slim is much quieter than my old 60GB fat model. I'm still willing to bet that my slim PS3 is decoding DD+ on VUDU as it sound to good to be standard DD.

Yes, it is decoding it and outputting it over HDMI as LPCM. What you said above was, "I thought the slim PS3 did bitstream DD+ on VUDU". To "bitstream" is to send the encoded sound to the AVR to be decoded by the AVR. The older PS3s can't bitstream the "advanced" formats (DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA).
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post #503 of 554
10/22/11 at 12:20pm
Any update as to why XBOX 360 still does not have 5.1 support?
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post #504 of 554
10/22/11 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Yes, it is decoding it and outputting it over HDMI as LPCM. What you said above was, "I thought the slim PS3 did bitstream DD+ on VUDU". To "bitstream" is to send the encoded sound to the AVR to be decoded by the AVR. The older PS3s can't bitstream the "advanced" formats (DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA).

Oops!!! My bad, I actually meant decode lol. I know VUDU can't bitstream, but the PS3 is able to with bluray discs.
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post #505 of 554
10/22/11 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by Monkish54 View Post

Any update as to why XBOX 360 still does not have 5.1 support?

No idea but we know it is perfectly capable of decoding DD+ since it can still do it with HD DVDs. And even re-encode to high bitrate DTS for bitstream output.
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post #506 of 554
10/22/11 at 6:17pm
The Netflix "Chief Product Officer" had this to say in February:

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Netflix streams 5.1 for many titles to compatible platforms: currently PS3, and the newer Blu-ray players. Expect Roku and Xbox and AppleTV to add this capability some time in 2011 when they upgrade to separate streams of audio and video data instead of a single multiplexed stream.

So apparently the holdup is that it's using the "second gen" VC-1 encodes instead of the new encodes that the PS3 uses. His prediction has already come true for the Roku and Apple TV... but only by new "2" revisions being released.
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post #507 of 554
10/22/11 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

His prediction has already come true for the Roku and Apple TV... but only by new "2" revisions being released.

Several others have 5.1 sound now, some listed in the top post and a couple since then. The Fall Dashboard Update is due to release sometime in the next month or so (by late December, or it'll become the Winter Update ). Maybe they'll push a major Netflix upgrade along with it--they often do.
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post #508 of 554
10/24/11 at 4:39pm
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I do that and I get DD5.1 at 48 KHz. Is that a 5.1 core of the DD+ encoding or PS3 converting?

It kind of renders the PS3 Fat not very useful for BDs, since it can't bitstream DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA. I wonder if it will allow output of the uncompressed LPCM surround tracks available on some BDs.

But hey, it's a working workaround!

If you have the latest ROKU2 box capable of 1080p/5.1 via HDMI, ROKU has an optional browser package for a flat one-time charge of $2.99. This allows you to search on-screen through the entire Netflix streaming catalog. Also available via that option is ability to search for 5.1 audio and/or 1080p. In the case of the latter "1080p" search, you will currently pull up just 26 titles; but if instead you search on 5.1 audio you will get some 469 titles as of today - and Netflix confirmed that of those 469 most, but not all, in fact are encoded 1080p. BUT, to view at 1080p of course, as a practicality you'll need a minimum 5MG broadband connection, otherwise slower connections will automatically downgrade to lesser resolutions.
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post #509 of 554
10/24/11 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by mrsmith View Post

If you have the latest ROKU2 box capable of 1080p/5.1 via HDMI, ROKU has an optional browser package for a flat one-time charge of $2.99. This allows you to search on-screen through the entire Netflix streaming catalog.

If you mean the "Instant Watch Browser" channel, I bought that shortly after I got my Roku 2, though I haven't used it much.
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Also available via that option is ability to search for 5.1 audio and/or 1080p. In the case of the latter "1080p" search, you will currently pull up just 26 titles; but if instead you search on 5.1 audio you will get some 469 titles as of today - and Netflix confirmed that of those 469 most, but not all, in fact are encoded 1080p. BUT, to view at 1080p of course, as a practicality you'll need a minimum 5MG broadband connection, otherwise slower connections will automatically downgrade to lesser resolutions.

As far as I can tell nearly all HD titles have 1080p encodings (3139 titles as I write this, counting one title per television series). I randomly tested 30 of them one day and they all had 1080p encodings; I haven't personally run across an HD title that didn't have a 1080p encoding (what the PS3 refers to as "X-High/HD"), but someone pointed one out to me in this thread. being one season of an anime series, all other seasons of which had 1080p encodings. There are only one or two titles with 5.1 sound which aren't also HD, so yes, almost all titles with 5.1 sound have 1080p encodings .

I don't see where the Instant Watch Browser features a 1080p genre, just HD.
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post #510 of 554
10/25/11 at 11:38am
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If you mean the "Instant Watch Browser" channel, I bought that shortly after I got my Roku 2, though I haven't used it much.
As far as I can tell nearly all HD titles have 1080p encodings (3139 titles as I write this, counting one title per television series). I randomly tested 30 of them one day and they all had 1080p encodings; I haven't personally run across an HD title that didn't have a 1080p encoding (what the PS3 refers to as "X-High/HD"), but someone pointed one out to me in this thread. being one season of an anime series, all other seasons of which had 1080p encodings. There are only one or two titles with 5.1 sound which aren't also HD, so yes, almost all titles with 5.1 sound have 1080p encodings .

I don't see where the Instant Watch Browser features a 1080p genre, just HD.

- - - Why Netflix doesn't simply show designation for '1080p', instead of just 'HD' is a mystery. It would certainly simplify and speed up such a choice. And why do just 26 titles appear now when you do specify '1080p'? For example, some VOD services allow a choice of 'SD', 'HD"(for 720p) and '1080'. What's the problem for Netflix not doing this? Can be be that complicated?
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