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post #121 of 600
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

I've watched the first two episodes of the British Season 2 and I haven't seen anything new unless. One thing is missing, but I'm guessing the US series dumped it. Won't know till I see more of both.

larry

Looks like it got shoved back into the last episodes on the US version.
post #122 of 600
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Amy Smart is awesome and I'd like to see where that storyline is going.

Lip getting arrested puts BOTH Steve and Tony in hot water. Probably a worst-case scenario for these guys.

Oh yeah, I think Amy Smart is one of the sexiest women on the planet, hope she's a lasting character on the show. Although, Rossum and Smart on the same show just may be too much for me... nah!
post #123 of 600
Are we allowed to discuss next weeks preview clip- or is that taboo?
post #124 of 600
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

Are we allowed to discuss next weeks preview clip- or is that taboo?

I don't watch them, and I'm pretty sure its been practice that they are spoilers.
post #125 of 600
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

I don't watch them, and I'm pretty sure its been practice that they are spoilers.

In that case.... it can wait
post #126 of 600
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

I don't watch them, and I'm pretty sure its been practice that they are spoilers.

Exact opposite--preview clips are NOT spoilers.
post #127 of 600
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

Exact opposite--preview clips are NOT spoilers.

They do show a preview clip at the end of every show ..
post #128 of 600
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

Are we allowed to discuss next weeks preview clip- or is that taboo?

If it is the preview that was shown immediately following the show's original airing, it can be discussed freely without spoiler tags.
post #129 of 600
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

If it is the preview that was shown immediately following the show's original airing, it can be discussed freely without spoiler tags.

You sir, are awesome.
Thank you for the posting.
post #130 of 600
I gotta say, it's been so long since the first season of Shameless UK that I can't really remember it and can fully enjoy Shameless US. Hilarious episode! lol
post #131 of 600
WOW. What a season finale!

I got a big laugh when Tony promised that Detective season-tickets to the Bears (plus playoffs) to get Lip and Ian out of jail. Jokes on him, there's no season next year!

I could have sworn that Steve said the tickets to Miami were out of O'Hare, but he's clearly shown to be waiting at Midway Airport, and Fiona was at the Kedzie station which is a little bit north of Southside.
post #132 of 600
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

I could have sworn that Steve said the tickets to Miami were out of O'Hare

That's what I was thinking, too! Then I thought maybe he just said 'the airport' and I assumed it was O'Hare since I fly in and out of there a lot.

Mel
post #133 of 600
Fantastical season finale last night. Lip sure beat up Frank, but I guess that won back his girlfriend. I guess she saw it as him protecting her. Karen's father really killed himself? His look when he was about to do it was sad, he was pouting, about to cry.

I'm glad that Fiona left Steve, and did not go to Costa Rica with him. I think she had the right mind set. She was offered a job, she could take in money and support her family.

Can't wait for next season. I wonder if Steve would be back. I doubt it, since he "left" on the season finale. I did like his character though.
post #134 of 600
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

Karen's father really killed himself? His look when he was about to do it was sad, he was pouting, about to cry.

I couldn't believe that, either. The whole storyline with Karen just goes to show you some of the life-changing mistakes we could have made as children. She was pissed-off and got a "whore" tattoo, which she can now never get rid of. That singular moment where you did something dumb out of emotion, and it will be with her forever.
post #135 of 600
Great finale and season. But I'm impatient and don't want to wait til 2012 to watch more. Guess I'll jump into the UK series.
post #136 of 600
Good Finale... Wait... What!? Next.. YEAR!? Christ.

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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

Karen's father really killed himself?

That's a hell of a way to go... I was waiting for his head to pop back up because it was only like 3 feet of water. lol, guess not.
post #137 of 600
^^^^ Funny. I was waiting for exactly the same thing.

larry
post #138 of 600
A very satisfying closer. I especially enjoyed the image of Frank standing chastened and steaming in the cold night air.
post #139 of 600
Can't wait for this to return back. One more month
The Season Premier is on Sunday, January 8, 2012 at 9 PM ET/PT.
post #140 of 600
I barely remember this or the UK show so, I'm ready. My friend is super hyped for this to come back.
post #141 of 600
Count me in, I'm ready too
post #142 of 600
TV Review
Showtime's 'Shameless' returns confidently for season 2
Dramedy finds better balance while still making great use of Emmy Rossum and family
By Alan Sepinwall, Media Life Magazine

In one episode of the new season of Showtime's "Shameless" (it returns Sunday night at 9), Emmy Rossum's Fiona Gallagher finds herself on the run from someone who wants to beat her up with a baseball bat, and winds up cowering under a table next to her despicable alcoholic father Frank (William H. Macy). As Fiona realizes that she's now in the same position Frank has been in so, so, so many times in the past, a giddy Frank declares, "I have waited for this day!" And as much as he wants to just seem smug about the daughter who has lectured him so often in the past about his own bad behavior, there's a sense of perverse pride here, too - that this is the first time in a long time Frank has truly been able to relate to his eldest child.

And that, boys and girls, is "Shameless" in a nutshell. It is messy. It is vulgar. It is crude and loud and low-class. And it takes great joy in being all of those things.

It is also, despite being an hour each week and featuring dramatic moments - many of them heart-wrenchingly good - funnier than pretty much all of the half-hour shows Showtime tries to pass off as comedies, and it's a pleasure to have it back.

I had, in fact, not realized just how much I missed the Gallagher clan - six kids, ranging from toddler Liam to 21-year-old Fiona, struggling to make ends meet and keep their family together thanks to their mother's abandonment and Frank's more visible neglect - until I started watching episodes from the second season. I liked but didn't always love "Shameless" last year. Part of that was me never finding Frank as amusing as the show so clearly wanted me to, particularly when so much of the first season's comedy spun out of things Frank was doing. But just as problematic was the way the show seemed to have trouble deciding whether it viewed the Gallaghers' petty criminal lifestyle as fuel for black comedy, or as something that was going to leave all the siblings damaged in one way or another. It can be both those things, but there were many times in the first season where the one seemed incompatible with the other.

But the performances of and chemistry between the young actors - particularly Rossum as fierce mama bear Fiona, Jeremy Allen White as precocious hoodlum Lip, Cameron Monaghan as closeted Ian and Emma Kenney as wise-beyond-her-years Debbie - were so strong that I didn't sweat the parts that didn't work as well.

And the early parts of season 2 feel like some of the rough edges have been sanded off, qualitatively, without making "Shameless" itself feel any more cleaned up than a year ago.

Where the first season took place in a cold, grey Chicago winter, it's now the summer, which has opened up all kinds of new criminal avenues for the Gallaghers to explore. Fiona sets up an unlicensed daycare center in the house, using 10-year-old Debbie to run the place while she sleeps off her night job. Lip and neighbor Kev (Steve Howey) dust off an old ice cream truck and use it to sell both pops and pot to people at the local park, and Lip also organizes a local fight club ring. Frank, meanwhile, is in a panic, because his sugar mama Sheila Jackson (Joan Cusack, blessedly muted in what could be an unrelentingly quirky role) is starting to get over her agoraphobia and will soon be able to journey into the real world and learn what a disgusting, selfish jerk he really is.

The warm weather brings with it a slightly more relaxed tone. The Gallaghers are still under constant threat of financial ruin - or, worse, being split up by social services - but overall the show seems to be enjoying their hustles more, and finding more ways to have comedy spin out of the kids, and Kev and his girlfriend Veronica (Shanola Hampton), rather than just leaning on Frank to make things funny.

For that matter, the writers have done a better job of calibrating Frank this season. Macy still seems miscast (there's something oddly studied about the performance that's not usually there in his great performances), and the draw for me remains Rossum and friends, but where I often viewed Frank scenes last year as the cost of doing business, this year, some of them are actually funny, and others do a better job of explaining why Frank hasn't been lynched by now. And as an adult with his best years long behind him (assuming he ever had good years), the show can go much darker with Frank than it can with his children. He makes a decision midway through Sunday's premiere that seems like the worst thing I could imagine him doing, and then does something two episodes later that makes the earlier act seem like jaywalking.

One other interesting change, at least in the early going: because of how last season ended, Justin Chatwin is largely out of the picture as Steve, Fiona's car thief boyfriend, who's been concealing his wealthy background. I had no problem with Chatwin last year, but it does feel like the show has more room to breathe in these early episodes without having to balance Fiona's serious relationship (as opposed to several casual flings that don't require much screentime) along with scams, sibling bonding and whatever shenanigans Frank is involved in. Rossum was a revelation last year - funny and touching and in complete command of the screen - and if anything, she seems stronger this season(*), even as Fiona is getting reckless without Steve in her life. I'm sure Chatwin will be more prominent as the season moves along, but the mix without him plays quite well.

(*) Showtime needs to give Rossum the same kind of Emmy push they give their better-known actresses - and possibly consider submitting the show as a comedy next year - since she's every bit their equal, performance-wise.

There are a lot of comedies on television where the main characters treat each other horribly for most of each episode and then have some kind of phony heartwarming moment right at the end. With "Shameless," the love is just as intrinsic as the bad behavior. The Gallaghers do all of these terrible things - well, most of them - because of how much they care about each other and want to stay together. (And also because their father is Frank Gallagher and the apple doesn't usually fall far from the drunken tree.) And because the bond between them is so strong, all the show's disparate pieces - the filthy comedy and the desperation, the joy and the depression - hold together just as well.

SHAMELESS
Season Premiere Sunday at 10 p.m. on Showtime.


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post #143 of 600
Wondering if I should go grab a single of beer for tonight's Showtime shows. It's just.. I have work in the morning
post #144 of 600
If you're gonna pick up beer to watch Shameless, then by all means you should get some Old Style Lager!
post #145 of 600
haha, do you mean PBR?
post #146 of 600
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Originally Posted by Young C View Post

haha, do you mean PBR?

Shameless is set in Chicago, Frank drinks Old Style.
post #147 of 600
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Shameless is set in Chicago, Frank drinks Old Style.

awhhh. Good thinking.

I was going to choose from Corona, Carta Blanca or Guinness Extra Foreign. I guess the only "real" beer would be the Guinness
post #148 of 600
Good season opener.

This show has no limits! ha

Frank, raising money in the gay bar
post #149 of 600
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

If you're gonna pick up beer to watch Shameless, then by all means you should get some Old Style Lager!

Do they still sell Blatz in Chicago? When I was at Northwestern, my frat had Blatz in the Coke machine.

I had never seen this show until watching the premier with my girlfriend (who was and is a huge fan). The rapid fire summary of the prior season made almost no sense to me. But after the premier, I saw the summary again and it made complete sense. I am definitely hooked!
post #150 of 600
Frank is so crazy.

Good episode.
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