Who makes the finest full range loudspeaker? - Page 2

Disregarding the idea that the best placement for subs are often not the best place for mains, how about Seaton Catalysts stood on top of a pair of Submersives. Same idea taken a little more extreme, Danley SH-50 on top of a TH50. They definitely meet the 20-20k spec. and no amps required for the Seatons

I missed my opportunity to hear them. I've met the owner of Arvus and have heard their previous top of the line speaker (Arvus Horizon). I do however own a set of speakers from another manufacturer that use Arvus drivers, the Theophany M5:

The best I've ever heard, and I've heard a lot ... is the Raidho C4.0

That was one of the few times I've ever been in awe and felt like I couldn't build something better myself.

He believes they should be behind a sheet (for a screen). He kind of disdains buying/selling speakers as furniture.

A pair of these would only set you back less than ~$10k. Only...



Swans F5f are just plain big and nasty. I'd like to hear one of these some day.

Even the medium sized 1Cs will get you flat to 25hz in room, perhaps 20hz. I've been using them for years. Upgrade the tweeters and redo the crossovers and for around $800-$1000 you've got full range speakers that sound better than original...and yes they are very good speakers.

Berwin Dega.

Doesn't every speaker builder say that. I have heard of Geddes' speakers before but I have not read much about their performance. I would think if Geddes' speakers are the best ever designed speaker you would see more discussion about them. But other than an occasional mention here on AVS I have not seen much mention of Geddes speakers.

Bill

Well to be fair, he does not have that many speakers out there at this point. In addition, he tends to appeal more to the DIY people as he sells kits in addition to completed speakers. Add to the fact that Penngray is probably commenting more on Earl's personality than his speakers. AFAIK, he has not heard them.

And I found the YG's boring everytime I have heard them. Does that mean they are bad, no. Regardless of cost, I would never choose to purchase them. They just do not excite me for whatever reason.

Were they similar to the SRT?

http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/s...ent/srtsystem/

The SRT grew out of the SDA. Stereo Dimensional Array was a design that featured crosstalk elimination through dual line arrays in a single sealed cabinet with a PR acting as a port. The internal crossover sent both R & L signals to the dimensional arrays in the opposite speaker. This presents a huge soundstage, at least wall to wall, with wrap around. The larger (wider) the room the better.

www.polksda.com

The SRTs system featured arrays, powered subs and an outboard crossover providing the SDA effect. It was their statment piece, some say best ever for the time. I personally think it's an uber HT system, but the subs are dated now. There are a few thousand out there still going strong and resell well, but to me, a bargain 2 channel, even a combo HT rig, with traditional SDAs, with upgraded caps and tweets is the way to go.

My wife is a perfect "10"...........others might not agree, but that's my opinion.

As far as Paradigm Studio 100's................I visited a Paradigm dealer hoping to audition Signatures, but sat down and had a listen to the Studio 100's instead. Talk about pain! I didn't walk from the store...........I RAN!

Aerial 20T V2 have been my fav....................much better than the Wilsons or Klipsch Palladiums to name a few I auditioned.

yes.. I need a bigger room JUBLIEES !

They never grew on me - I didn't feel that they were strong
with music.

Indeed - I myself have a "meager" pair of Dynaudio Audience 42s, and the bass output is very nice indeed. Rated to go to 55Hz, but in an actual room definitely goes lower. And it's tight, punchy, good bass all the way. Good stuff.

A pic of the Consequence from those too lazy to look it up:


These puppies cost around $40k or so. Not the prettiest speakers ever, but for some reason I found that very expensive speakers often aren't aesthetically pleasing to my eyes. I don't really like the Dynaudio Evidence speakers lookwise either, nor the Confidence line for that matter, even while I like the looks of all of the lower Dynaudio ranges basically. But boy, did the C1s sound good when I heard them six years ago...

Von Schweikert VR-11SE claimed flat to 10hz.


Adam Audio Olympic


Marten Coltrane Supreme


Evolution Acoustics MM7


MBL 1X-treme


KEF Muon


There are more. I love this stuff.

Rockport Arrakis


Avalon Acoustics Sentinel


Kharma Grand Exquisite

I'd consider Meyer's products. Either their X-10, or the Acheron line.

The X-10;


Datasheet pdf




The X-10 has been around at least a decade or so, their newer offering including the Acheron line is killer;






Supplemental LF;






Full stack;



Acheron info here





A proper two way with controlled directivity, with nice uniform polars is my idea of an ideal HT rig.

All that said, on the other hand I think Seatons Catalyst is on of the steals in all of audio. They'll likely be my next mains.



Info on the Catalyst here

Revel's been mentioned, Pioneer hasn't, two of the best deals in audio: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...1EX.Kuro?tab=B

Also aerial 20t and avalon acoustics sentinel.

ron

So how do these work, with the tweeters being so low and all...wouldn't that throw off the balance?

Most of these speakers look scary!

I think that's a fairly common question. Form trumps function in this case.

ATC SCM 150

I'm pretty sure these huge speakers and giant arrays of drivers are really good indicators of how difficult it is to get quality full range sound from a single speaker. Neither the Geddes or Seaton speakers are full range designs.

The new Zu Audio Dominance

Prices starting at 40k/pair (US Price only)

http://www.zuaudio.com/pdfs/ComparisonChartLsWEB.pdf

Efficiency 101 dB @ 1w/1m
Bandwidth (full scale music) 14 - 20,000+
Min / Max Power 2 - 900 watts
Stereo Pair Match Tolerance > 1%

$25,000


Vienna Acoustics- The Music

I am dying to hear these as I am a big fan of the VA sound. Love my Mozarts which are a fraction of the cost.