Official OPPO BDP-95 Anticipation Thread - Page 6  

Oh, a Zune lovah. Doh. ;-) That format exclusivity is why I have tried to steer clear from closed solutions like Zune. I did have a Apple Nano but it was hacked to run Rockbox, so I never looked back. Same with a Sansa previously purchased. And no, the software doesn't support WMA lossless either due to the lack of an open source decoder, which is MS' way of flinging their nose at those who want a more open solution, with greater file format support. To MS, I fling my nose right back and would never dream of holding Oppo to incur another expense for MS' sake.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/t...yer-first-look

Just glancing at the rear panel of the BDP-95 reveals a number of serious upgrades. First, you find XLR as well as RCA stereo outputs. With the BDP-93 you'd be forced to use the Left and Right channels of the 7.1 analogue outputs. The rest of the connections are all the same if a bit rearranged. Observant readers will note that the 95 is a bit taller than the 93 (the 93 is 16.9 x 12.25 x 3.125 inches and the 95 is same except 4 inches tall). There is also a fan on the back of the 95 that is not present on the 93. This is probably because of the internal upgrades which includes a toroidal transformer built by Rotel.

Yes, that Rotel.

The toroidal power transformer is designed to offer superior inrush current and much lower exterior magnetic field over traditional laminated steel core transformers. The BDP-95's toroidal linear power supply provides a very clean and robust power source to the critical audio components. But the most important part as far as audio is the DAC - Digital to Analogue Converter. In the case of the BDP-95, they've opted with the SABRE32 (that 32 is supposed to be superscript) Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology. This is the same DAC they used in high-end consumer applications and professional studio equipment. The SABRE brags a DNR (Dynamic Range) of up to 135dB and a THD+N (Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise) of -120dB. This is the industry's highest performance level and should satisfy even the most demanding audio purist (of course, we fully expect to see a BDP-95 with a tube sticking out of the top at the next high-end show because, you know, everything sounds better with tubes). Oppo hasn't just used a single SABRE DAC for their BDP-95, they use two - one for the 7.1 channel output and a second one for the dedicated stereo output. All this technology adds nearly 50% additional weight to the unit bringing the BDP-95 in at 16 pounds.

The BDP-95 is scheduled to start shipping in February. You can register on Oppo's website to be notified by email when it comes available.

Conclusion

The BDP-95 still has all the other features of the BDP-93 including dual HDMI outputs, Marvell's Kyoto-G2 video processor, Netflix and Blockbuster support, and 3D compatibility. And this is what is so great about the new BDP-95: You don't have sacrifice the latest and greatest features to have state of the art audio. If all you really want is a great player with universal disc support (meaning it plays DVDs, CDs, Blu-rays, DVD-As, and SACDs plus lots more), 3D, and Netflix, the BDP-93 is a great choice. But if you are really worried about audio, specifically two channel analogue audio, it's going to be really hard to outperform the BDP-95. Considering the price (under a grand), it is probably impossible to beat. If you have high end processors, amps, and speakers, you owe it to your gear to feed them a source as quality as the BDP-95... or wait until someone takes it and puts it into a nicer box for you to buy at 7x the price.

I have medium end audio (Pioneer Elite SC-05 receiver, though a bit lower end speakers from Elemental Designs, but impressive for the price), and I'm happy with the 93 and digital audio via HDMI. I feel like I'm committing seppuku by admitting such in here.

A Great great Truth !!

Don't worry !

The most importat thing is to be satisfied

Lucky is anyone that "didn't know" or don't want to know or appreciate the differences

The "knowledge" often is a Curse .....

This is the reply I got from oppo about using my xantech ir block with my 83


I notice the 93 and 95 just have 1 ir input port [no ir out port] . Have they changed how this is configured ? Am I safe to just feed it a standard mono cable ? [ I think not based on this post I found ]-


Obviously dont want to fry anything Thanks for any advice in advance .

The owner's manual for the 93 explains this, but the short answer is to just use a mono 1/8" plug into the 93 direct from the Xantech block. The 83's IR input directly supported an external IR receiver so you could put the player in an enclosed cabinet and mount the receiver somewhere external - the 3rd pin was used to power the IR receiver. The 93/95 have abandoned that capability so it's just a standard 2 conductor IR input now.

I've had my (beta) 93 connected to an IR output and a RS-232 port on my Crestron control system for a while now and have my remote set up so I can switch back and forth to control it via IR or RS-232 for testing purposes. IR control through the rear port has been working fine for me. The Crestron IR output ports are basically the same as Xantech, Niles, RTI, Harmony (for their RF receivers), and lots of other 3rd party IR outputs.

Exactly this is why I am using Flac and Foobar.

Anyone tested a blueray MKV file with HD audio tracks LPCM to their AMP

Does it work ?

Did oppo address the flimsy and noisy transport mechanism?

They did address the rear pannel crowded analog OUT which is a nightmare to connect with WBT locking system found on the nordost IC.

OPPO has front and back photos:
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...95-Images.aspx

-Bill

I saw nothing pertaining to the transport mechanism.

But, this one is interesting from the bd-93, which would be available i guess on the bd-95 : •multiple crossover selections for analog audio

I'm abandoning my Pioneer too. It seems to be clear that as soon as the 95 is out, I'm selling my BDP-09 and PD-D9J. Region free mod can come later. It's not like BDP-09 is region free anyway.

The transport mechanism in the 93 is nicer than the one in the 83 / 83SE, so it stands to reason that the transport mechanism in the 95 will be too.


The owner's manual for the BDP-93 is posted on OPPO's site - the 95 should have the same speaker configuration options as the 93.

I'm glad u mentioned sending your audio via hdmi so I can ask about this. With the 93 or 95, are u able to let the 93 do the multi-ch decoding and send the decoded lpcm thru hdmi to your prepro/receiver OR
do u send the mch audio thru hdmi and let your receiver do the decoding? Have u tried both?
thx, Tom

I've only allowed AVR to do the decoding so far (for the 93) but yes, the player can be set to decode and send as PCM.

These players can both send bitstream or PCM and it should make no difference in SQ either way. Sending SACD DSD to a DSD decoding capable AVR will likely sound better than decoding to PCM in the player. If you are not going to use analog out of the player you should get a 93.

Much appreciated gsr ; wasnt totally sure as to oppos meaning when they said stereo [hot pin cold pin or maybe some sort of y splitter ]

Have found a standard mono one so helps with the ratsnest along with giving my pre pro one ;thanks

I'm kind've in a similar situation, with an SC-25 powering Def Tech speakers. I do hear an improvement with CDs over my previous receiver (Onkyo TX-DS797) through the multichannel analog ins (from a Pio Elite DV-47Ai), so I wonder if it might be worthwhile running the BDP-95's stereo analog outs for CD/HDCD, and using HDMi for Blu-ray/DVD/multichannel SACD/DVD-audio; I also like the 95's styling better than the 93's, plus the coolness potential of owning a 16 lb. Blu-ray player. I just hope the 95 has a very quiet fan, as the one on my PS3 really gets on my nerves sometimes.

The dacs in the pioneer elite series are junk. I use the dac from oppo 83 nuforce edition and the m/c sound is 100% better.

Any word on the 95's onboard opamps, regulators, capacitors and master clock? Or any word on when these info will be disclosed?

Hi!

Not at now ...
Surely the datas you asked for will be treated more in deep by the modders that will work on this machine ...

I never see Oppo specs about opamps family and specify components series other than DACs

P.S.

Ciao Carissimo !

I am reticent to take your word for it..."junk" is a little bit over the top. Is the 192 kHz / 24-bit DAC Wolfson WM8740 DAC really that bad?

EDIT: No, it's not...now that only leaves Pioneer's implementation as being "junk," which is another difficult to believe claim.

Hi guys. I am re-reconsidering how best to integrate the 95 into my HT. I was attempting to fully make use of the sweet 5.1 analog (vs using only 2 ch analog) but the problem comes down to the very limited speaker setup options re: analog output from the Oppo considering my room layout. It would be very challenging to get my surrounds equidistant and and less than the distance to FR/L, and to do that for the sub too.

I have a Denon AVR 4310 with Audyssey MultEQXT. It sounds great for cable sources as well as for HDMI bluray and SACD from my current Oppo BDP83. I run the Denon preouts to an Emotiva 5 ch XPA5 to power Dali Helicon 400s FR/L and matching c200 CC. Surrounds are Polk in- walls currently.

So far I have tried using the Oppo's dedicated stereo analog into a Parasound 2100 2 ch pre w/ HT bypass and was overall unimpressed with the SQ compared to the Denon (some additional mid/high clarity but boomy bass). The best 2 ch SQ yet is the minimal analog processing route through an Emo UMC1 (edit-not XPA1) prepro, which gives a broader, more detailed soundstage, but this processor is duplicative of much in the Denon and may not be sufficient to show off the 95's analog. I am considering trying out the Parasound P7 as the P3 has no HT bypass.

I am looking for your suggestions, including specifics for a good stereo pre w/ HT bypass, new or used under $2K. ((xposted on 83SE thread))

And from where did you get a 95 if I may ask ???

I am not a tester, it is in my mind's eye only.

Well now I'm pissed...... (sort of)! I've had my 83SE for about 6 months now and being that it was one of the best on the market at the time, I figured that it should last at least a couple of years before the upgrade bug started chewing on my soul. Now, with all these details coming out about ESS-9018 DACs for all channels as well as balanced outs for the dedicated stereo, the upgrade bug is not only chewing at my soul, it's knawing at my wallet as well.

Any ideas what a slightly used 83SE will go for?

+1- I enjoy music on my SC-25 way more than I ever did on the Onkyo. Almost a matter of "Where've you been all my life?", though to be honest, my exposure to so-called "high-end" equipment has been rather limited . I do think the BDP-95 can potentially enhance that enjoyment, though I'll probably wait for user/professional reviews before I pull the trigger.

Sorry if I have missed this earlier in the thread, but is the 95 going to be capable of playing Hi-Rez FLAC/WMA downloads via say USB thumb drives? So, effectively acting as a digital player/DAC?

Cheers

According to Audiogon:

Oppo Digital BDP-83 SE : Used Prices

Used $900.00


$1060.00 High


$850.00 Last


$680.00 Low
New $899.00
Jun 10 Dec 10




Oppo Digital BDP-83 SE released 2009, blu ray, hdmi