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post #31 of 1008
Hate to beat a dead horse here but am I assuming correctly that the dedicated stereo outs won't have any bass management?
post #32 of 1008
Any indication of a Beta proram on this one, or will it ve a straight forward general release?

(I already signed up for notification of release)
post #33 of 1008
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

wish we had some idea on BDP-95 retail price?

For what it is worth, MusicDirect has it listed for a tad under a grand.
post #34 of 1008
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

GREAT !!
Finally, THE MACHINE !!

Now, only 2 things still concerned me:

1) A nice Region-Free module kit, as the one I have for the 83 ...
2) The "moves" of Jason for the 95 NuForce Edition ......

Thanks OPPO !!
Finally, Great decision !!

Yes to the former. What is there to be done to the latter, short of 'cap-swapping' silliness.

BTW, I assume the 93 has a reworked drawer assembly versus 83, and that 95 will use the same as 93? Does anyone know for sure?
post #35 of 1008
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Originally Posted by ca1ore View Post

Yes to the former. What is there to be done to the latter, short of 'cap-swapping' silliness.

That called "silliness" made my actual 83SE Nuforce Edition sound even better than a Regular 83SE and this for sure !!
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Originally Posted by ca1ore View Post

BTW, I assume the 93 has a reworked drawer assembly versus 83, and that 95 will use the same as 93? Does anyone know for sure?

Are you speaking Region-free related module or in general ??

For a future Region-Free kit I suppose it could be the same for 93 and 95 ...

For eventually Audio Board, NO... Oppo stated that 95 is build new form the ground so parts cannot be swapped ... This is the reason why a 93 could not be upgrade to 95
post #36 of 1008
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post #37 of 1008
is adding a digital input, so we could use the 95 as an outboard DAC, something a (Nuforce) mod could do well?
post #38 of 1008
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Originally Posted by coyote2 View Post

is adding a digital input, so we could use the 95 as an outboard dac, something a (nuforce) mod could do well?

afaik, no ....
post #39 of 1008
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Originally Posted by coyote2 View Post

is adding a digital input, so we could use the 95 as an outboard DAC, something a (Nuforce) mod could do well?

Such a feature would require firmware changes to support, so it's highly unlikely (IOW, not going to happen) that you would see a mod that adds it.

At this point, I would expect the same feature set as the 93 but with better analog audio outputs (both the dedicated stereo balanced / unbalanced outputs and better sound quality). I would expect nothing more and nothing less unless we hear otherwise from OPPO.

Any mods that come from NuForce and others should be expected to only further improve the analog audio output performance, just as they did with the 83 and 83SE. The mod companies don't have the resources needed to do custom firmware, so don't expect anything from them that requires firmware modifications.

The only additional feature I'd expect to see from a 3rd party mod is region free support. I'd expect to see region free mods show up for both the 93 (I would assume we'll see this one soon) and 95 (sometime after it's released).
post #40 of 1008
also voicing my support of a region/zone free mod. It is an absolute must considering i move all over the World and don't have the luxury of always finding a DVD in one particular region.

If this becomes reality, I would be seriously interested!
post #41 of 1008
And with all that excellence and pimped-out DACs they forgot to include digital inputs. Again. In 2011.

No digital inputs-no sale. End of story.
post #42 of 1008
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

Are you speaking Region-free related module or in general ??

The one thaing that I do not like about the 83 was the relatively cheap feel and operation of the actual drawer assembly. I've not seen any comments about whether the 93 improves on this, or whether the 95 will as well.

I've no need, one way or the other, for a region-free mod.
post #43 of 1008
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

That called "silliness" made my actual 83SE Nuforce Edition sound even better than a Regular 83SE and this for sure !!

I'm very much a skeptic on that kind of stuff. However, to be fair, I should have pointed out that I'm looking at the 93/95 from the perspective of it as an audio/video digital transport (no analog outputs needed chez moi) as I have a SSP that will only take in a digital audio signal and a VP that 'requires' source direct.
post #44 of 1008
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Originally Posted by aragno View Post

also voicing my support of a region/zone free mod. It is an absolute must considering i move all over the World and don't have the luxury of always finding a DVD in one particular region.

If this becomes reality, I would be seriously interested!

I've been told late summer, when the 95 was but a rumor to most folks that a mod was being worked on for it..So rest a sure that was is coming.


DJoel
post #45 of 1008
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Originally Posted by giedrys View Post

No digital inputs-no sale.

that might be true for me too...is there a competing product for not more than twice the price (which performs as well as the 95 may as a universal player, *and* has digital inputs for use as an outboard DAC)?

(I'm in the market for both functionalities, and would love not to buy them separately.)
post #46 of 1008
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Originally Posted by coyote2 View Post

that might be true for me too...is there a competing product for not more than twice the price (which performs as well as the 95 may as a universal player, *and* has digital inputs for use as an outboard DAC)?

(I'm in the market for both functionalities, and would love not to buy them separately.)

I'm actually not aware of a single box solution at any price that is both a universal player and has digital (coax, optical, and/or HDMI) inputs. No DVD / Blu-ray / universal player from Ayre, Cambridge Audio, Denon, Lexicon, LG, Marantz, Panasonic, Pioneer, Samsung, Sony, etc. that I know of has a digital audio input (and many of those wouldn't be universal players anyway). Obviously some of the high end 2 box solutions have extra digital inputs, but that's getting well beyond twice the (rumored) price of the OPPO.

Perhaps a crazy idea... I haven't done much with DLNA yet so I'm not sure if it's supported by any existing DLNA server software, but would it be possible to accomplish a digital input that would satisfy your needs via DLNA? The DLNA server would need to support streaming digital input from the sound card in the PC in a format the OPPO supports via DLNA. If you're looking to use the DAC's in the OPPO for sources like a Cable TV box, this might work just fine if you plan to use DLNA for other purposes with the OPPO. Just a crazy idea, so don't shoot me if it isn't workable .
post #47 of 1008
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Originally Posted by giedrys View Post

And with all that excellence and pimped-out DACs they forgot to include digital inputs. Again. In 2011.

No digital inputs-no sale. End of story.

Digital input from Modwright http://www.modwright.com/modifications/21 . You might contact Dan and see if he is planning on offering this on the 93/95
post #48 of 1008
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I'm actually not aware of a single box solution at any price that is both a universal player and has digital (coax, optical, and/or HDMI) inputs.

Well, that's the idea. There are a few DVD or SACD players that have this feature and Oppo had an excellent chance to make it AFAIK "first" universal player with Hi-End DACs and digital inputs.

With more and more hi-res audio material available(like from hdtracks) and 2011 around the corner, I find their choice to ignore this to be completely unacceptable. But maybe it's just me. All the hype and fanboyism will overshadow this and I'm sure they'll have no probs selling it anyway. But not to me
post #49 of 1008
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Perhaps a crazy idea... I haven't done much with DLNA yet so I'm not sure if it's supported by any existing DLNA server software, but would it be possible to accomplish a digital input that would satisfy your needs via DLNA? The DLNA server would need to support streaming digital input from the sound card in the PC in a format the OPPO supports via DLNA. If you're looking to use the DAC's in the OPPO for sources like a Cable TV box, this might work just fine if you plan to use DLNA for other purposes with the OPPO. Just a crazy idea, so don't shoot me if it isn't workable .

There are several DNLA server programs than can capture and stream video and audio from the PC. The question would be whether this is a lossless process or not. But the player should recognize and play any WAV format stream regardless of resolutions.

It can also be said that via USB or eSATA removable storage you can play whatever audio files you like. So yes, there are "digital inputs" available on the player.

Personally I can't imagine much credible purpose for using high-end DACs for "cable box" outputs or any other lossy source.
post #50 of 1008
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

That called "silliness" made my actual 83SE Nuforce Edition sound even better than a Regular 83SE and this for sure !!

I am interested in Nuforce edition 95 as well. It will be interesting to see within the player, what Nuforce will choose to improve upon.

My only wish for this player would be on the DLNA/uPnP side of the house. I hope they make this player compatible as a uPnP control point which would allow external control of this unit whether it be by PC/Ipad or android phone.
post #51 of 1008
Been looking to replace my fat PS3 as a blu ray player. I'm happy I found out about this player before I put down cash for the BDP 93. Can't wait to pick this bad boy up!
post #52 of 1008
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

There are several DNLA server programs than can capture and stream video and audio from the PC. The question would be whether this is a lossless process or not. But the player should recognize and play any WAV format stream regardless of resolutions.

It can also be said that via USB or eSATA removable storage you can play whatever audio files you like. So yes, there are "digital inputs" available on the player.

Personally I can't imagine much credible purpose for using high-end DACs for "cable box" outputs or any other lossy source.

COMPLETELY AGREE !!!
No really needs of "Physical" digital inputs, expeciially now that Oppo has enlarged the supported filetypes ...
post #53 of 1008
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Originally Posted by sac8d4 View Post

I am interested in Nuforce edition 95 as well. It will be interesting to see within the player, what Nuforce will choose to improve upon.......

Surely NuForce will put hands on the Audio Path at least as just have done in latest 83SE, and just for this we will have a difference
Would hope this time ... JASOOOONNN !!! They will do the SAME MOD to ALL the Analog Channels !!!
Not just like last 83SE NF, where they only modded Stereo Path and ONLY the 3 front channels of the 7.1 ....
Infact, in 7.1 analog paths, only FL, FR and Center were modded and enhanced ...

Well Jason ! This time, with winner 9018 Dacs we want your enhacements to ALL ANALOG CHANNELS !!!

Thanks very much

I'm waiting for my 95 NuForce !
post #54 of 1008
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Originally Posted by sac8d4 View Post

I am interested in Nuforce edition 95 as well. It will be interesting to see within the player, what Nuforce will choose to improve upon.

My only wish for this player would be on the DLNA/uPnP side of the house. I hope they make this player compatible as a uPnP control point which would allow external control of this unit whether it be by PC/Ipad or android phone.

Oppo has said that the 93 can be controlled via Ethernet or wifi but that they don't plan to develop an app for it as they don't have the time or resources. Someone else would need to.

I assume the 93 and 95 use the same user interface and therefore use the same app interface.
post #55 of 1008
Will the 95 have the same distance setting restrictions as the 83? I can't be the only one with a center channel further away than the left/right.

Warren
post #56 of 1008
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Originally Posted by waz View Post

Will the 95 have the same distance setting restrictions as the 83? I can't be the only one with a center channel further away than the left/right.

Warren

The 95 should be the same as the 93 (same FW) for that aspect.
Mike
post #57 of 1008
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Fan, or no fan I want this thing right in my AV rack.... freaking 16 lbs, not that means anything but it's 16 pounds

Djoel

Dan,

I agree. I'll be all over the 95 when it becomes available. Although I hope the fan is as quiet as the one in my 83SE. Although at times you might not have a chance of hearing the fan especially when a certain someone is hungry.

Bill
post #58 of 1008
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Personally I can't imagine much credible purpose for using high-end DACs for "cable box" outputs or any other lossy source.

Agreed, but given that the 93/95 are universal players and can stream a bunch of different formats (some of which are lossless), what other devices other than things like a cable box would one reasonably want to connect to a digital input on the OPPO?
post #59 of 1008
Good point !

Unluckly, internal DSP didn't permit to assign the loudspeaker to reference at ...
So the reference for dstance rapport will be always FL and FR, plus all the distances work in couples ... You cannot assign 3ft to FR and 2ft to FL for example .... as you cannot work with half foot steps that can be useful for a bit more precise time phase settings ...

Luckly, my setup is almost symmetrical so no problems with levels and distances, BUT sub, for example, is set at distance of 11ft when a good value could be 10,5ft (but half steps cannot be entered ...) being 10ft too much early and 11ft a bit later ...

I wrote Oppo several time, asking for half steps for distances ...
post #60 of 1008
Thanks Mike,

I assume this is a hardware restriction. I can't say it makes a lot of sense to me to release a flagship multichannel player where you can't set distances correctly. I for one am tired of a curved soundstage because I can't compensate for the L/R being 2 feet closer than my center channel.

Warren
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