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HAUNTED BY HDMI 3 STEPS to AVOIDING MASSIVE ERROR

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I noticed in this thread everyones building.. no ones mentioning HDMi cable.. guys.. paint schemes, screen frames, all the la la tee da.. scrap it.. and focus on the *heart of the entire project*... that HDMI running from the ceiling to the side/back/front of the room.

3 Tips YOU MUST LIVE BY for doing a theatre room IN WALL HDMI INSTALLATION.

I have ran into all three problems in the past and realized the avoidances myself. I am prewarning everyone before you finish your theatre room.

Simple:

#1 - CONDUIT!.. 2 inch. Regardless how you cant afford it or dont want the hassle... Buy it and install it.


#2 - HDMI WALL PLATE with ***locking hdmi screw***


#3 - AFTER MARKET LOCKING BRACE with SCREW. FOR BOTH ENDS.

No matter how you are told one HDMI cable is better than the other.. IT ISNT. Cheap is the same as expensive. Gold plated.. sure why not. But the inside is plastic soft crappy cheap plastic and when that plastic starts to crack.. your done. How does it crack? well HDMI plugs lifespan is only on the amount of times you plug in and unplug.. my opinion from experience a pathetic 7 times. After that youve worn your HDMI cable down, bent a pin inside, or just merely weakened its strength.

Ive done jobs where a contractors stepped on the hdmi cable, and I was'nt notified.. only to find out when the theatre room was finished and components were plugged in.

Ive done jobs where a contractor has drilled a drywall screw through the cable.. ( yes the hdmi was AWAY and clear from any STANDARD drywall screw.. just so happened the contractors lackie worker thought a 3 inch screw could be added as he ran out of drywall screws)
Add that screw to the 5v current and yep.. you have an instant hdmi port shot on a brand new projector and video out on a reciever. YES THERE IS POWER in hdmi cords. If this pin is grounded.. voilia dead port at either end.


Remember.. annoyingly... KEEP your eyes on that HDMI EVERYDAY and inspect it EVERYDAY.


As for hdmi wall plate.. it will save you alot of aggrevation as the small 3 ft hdmi to your component will infact be damaged quickly.. but you can just unplug from wall and component and replace. Wall plates infact will allow you to shave off costs of a cheaper 25ft+ hdmi cable. Cause your only plugging it in ONCE to the plates. thats it.

Why to HDMI cables stop working?? the sockets are cheap and BADLY designed. Why are HDMI cables so easy to break?.. they are holding 14+ wires and the length of the hdmi adds to the wires lifespan.. the longer the easier it will be damaged, by its weight and lack of flexibility.

Anyhow If you ignore this post, and continue your installation without my simple advice above.. I GUARANTEE YOU this post will be like a GHOST HAUNTING YOU EVERY SINGLE DAY until you finally get your theatre room and hdmi cables replaced.

Goodluck and go have a shot of something. I know the feeling in your stomach right now if you are currently online seeking advice about inwall broken hdmi cables.

If your hdmi ports are dead.. You should have used Locking hdmi connectors!!

Admin if this post in in the wrong section.. please find the right section. I feel its the sole single most valuable time and money saving post on this site. Thanks.

Lastly tip on dead ports.. slightly slowly press your thumb on the cable upwards.. does it work again? yup probably.. its the worlds worst invention in av today ...hdmi. But when its done right.. its the worlds best AV experience. Cant live without it.... for now.
post #2 of 10
Good post and thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by 0o0o0 View Post

I feel its the sole single most valuable time and money saving post on this site.

Welcome

You make a lot of good points, but MOST VALUABLE? that is a pretty gutsy statement for a newbie to this forum. After all once you have a conduit (a recommendation of this forum for years) you can pull in another $25 cable anytime you want. I know you are really proud of this post because you placed it three different places and requested that it become a sticky.

It sounds like you have some good field experience and I hope you stick around.
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"proud" of this post?? " newbie"???

Dude Im not here for recognition, im not touting my know how, im not looking for respect.. seriously man really shows what your here for.

Posts: 13,362 ??? while your here all day acting like a professional, were all out making the real $$$ in the real world.

All Im stating its a matter of spending what YOU budgeted for or spending WAY more.

good luck to you and search to become some AV KING..

Im just posting 3 main facts that help people with HDMI flaws.

This will be my only 4 posts ever to this site. Not here to be a know it all good luck with your quest.
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Originally Posted by 0o0o0 View Post

"proud" of this post?? " newbie"???

Dude Im not here for recognition, im not touting my know how, im not looking for respect.. seriously man really shows what your here for.

Posts: 13,362 ??? while your here all day acting like a professional, were all out making the real $$$ in the real world.

All Im stating its a matter of spending what YOU budgeted for or spending WAY more.

good luck to you and search to become some AV KING..

Im just posting 3 main facts that help people with HDMI flaws.

This will be my only 4 posts ever to this site. Not here to be a know it all good luck with your quest.

No disrespect, but the rules say no duplicate threads are allowed and posting multiple identical threads does make you come off a bit like what BIGmouthinDC. And if the thread has enough merit to be made a sticky the mods will do so without the need to be asked, it just seemed like you came to a new site and made all these demands, hense the noob comment. Really, no disrespect and I hope you stick around , b/c you obviously have experience that some of us don't.

I also see it as being important, but the most important I don't know. I would say that running enough conduits for all many of wiring so when you have to add something down the road , is important.

I hope you can understand where people are coming from?
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Posts: 13,362 ???

That is only 4.6 a day since I've been a member. Guess I've slowed down some since I turned 60.
post #7 of 10
Would it be safe to say that a conduit is only necessary in order to protect the wire and future runs? I was going to avoid a conduit justifying it by running more cables than I need and keep them well where any screw can possibly end up.
post #8 of 10
For HDMI, I would most certainly (and did) run conduit. It won't be the last standard and if something goes wrong with the cable, you can just pull it out and run a new one. I ran conduit for my sub cables as well. I wasn't sure if I wanted to buy prebuilt cables or make them myself out of coax. I didn't want to overpay by many times, so if I had done coax and it didn't sound good, I could have been screwed.

About the only thing I didn't run conduit for, aside from the obvious, was speaker wire.

It does seem like you're making a big deal about something I would think most have covered here. Just because they have a lot of posts, don't assume this is all they do, however, I can assure the person in question has been a big help to many members here and has probably avoided lots of trial and error from the threads he's participated in on this forum.
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Originally Posted by 0o0o0 View Post

"proud" of this post?? " newbie"???

Dude Im not here for recognition, im not touting my know how, im not looking for respect.. seriously man really shows what your here for.

Posts: 13,362 ??? while your here all day acting like a professional, were all out making the real $$$ in the real world.

All Im stating its a matter of spending what YOU budgeted for or spending WAY more.

good luck to you and search to become some AV KING..

Im just posting 3 main facts that help people with HDMI flaws.

This will be my only 4 posts ever to this site. Not here to be a know it all good luck with your quest.

I suggest you take it down a notch. We appreciate your desire to help others with your post. But, as others have pointed out, much of this information is not entirely new to those that have taken the time to read our forum and do the research upfront.

I will say one thing, BIGmouthinDC is one of the most helpful members at AVS.

It seems you took his post the wrong way. I'll assume you were having a bad day, but in the future if you think a post violates the AVS forum rules, then report the post (usng the report post icon ("!") in the lower left corner of the offending post....do not respond to the post, nor attack the other member.

Ron
post #10 of 10
Damn you guys are nice here, other forums I have been on would have ripped him a new A-H.
Nice to feel the love around here..
Must be the Xmas Spirit.

On another note, the HDMI plate is a worthwhile investment, as I debated on getting one, I finally decided to get it.

Well after mounting my 60" plasma, I did not have any picture , I first thought that is was the HDMI plate, then I look behind the TV to see the bottom of the TV was crushing my HDMI cable . (the TV is wall mounted and tilted and the HDMI input is near the bottom of the back of the TV).

Well I lost a brand new 3' HDMI cable, which is a lot cheaper than the 20' HDMI cable I was going to run straight to the TV.
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