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post #151 of 374
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Originally Posted by tomw16 View Post

Well I worked with Benito Joaquin at AV Science to confirm some calculations and I ordered the Sony VWPro1 projector

Based on Art Feierman's review of the Sony VWPro1 projector, the worst case scenario light output (at maximum zoom in) is 827 lumens and then reducing that by another 20% for low power and lamp ageing, we end up with a worst case scenario of 662 lumens.

With my 120" no-gain screen (43.5 square feet), I should have 15 fL (662 / 43.5), which is pretty much where I wanted to be.

The projector will ship today or tomorrow so I'll be anxious to get it hooked up and see what it looks like in our home theater.

Thanks to all that helped and especially to Benito.

Kind regards,
Tom

guys with the pro1...please let us know how it looks for bluy ray movies and how it looks for sports and regular tv viewing esp if you have directv.

also, what is the best screen for the pro1 if you want to ceiling mount it or use a drop down screen
post #152 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

guys with the pro1...please let us know how it looks for bluy ray movies and how it looks for sports and regular tv viewing esp if you have directv.

also, what is the best screen for the pro1 if you want to ceiling mount it or use a drop down screen

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony...image.php#hdtv




post #153 of 374
Have had mine hooked up for a little more than a week now and love it. Have been too busy to do much more than a basic calibration and watch a few clips, but really like what I see.

For the mount, I ended up going with Peerless rather than Chief mainly due to cost. Specifically, I got the Peerless PRG-UNV, ACC840 anti-vibration ceiling plate, and 1 1/2" threaded pipe from home depot painted black. Easy to install, sturdy, and easy to adjust. Very pleased.
post #154 of 374
Just installed it and done basic calibration with WOW (disney).

I'am coming from a panasonic AE3000 with about 700 hour on it on a 0.8g (gray) screen.

First impression is that it's way better in Black Level, Shadow Detail, Color and sharpness from the AE3000.

Did test with Supernatural, this series kill the AE3000 black level because it's desaturated and a lot of the action is in the dark. Well it's wayyyy better on the Sony, you really see the advantage of LCOS right there.

I've tested Transformers II, it's superb, also a good disc to test de IRIS, witch i never saw work in 2h45 of this movie, black level were very good too for 2.35:1, black bar are way blacker.

Had the chance to do AE3000 vs HW20 back to back and you could easily see the difference.

Very good buy.. Be back later with screenshots..
post #155 of 374
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Originally Posted by Imbu View Post
Just installed it and done basic calibration with WOW (disney).

I'am coming from a panasonic AE3000 with about 700 hour on it on a 0.8g (gray) screen.

First impression is that it's way better in Black Level, Shadow Detail, Color and sharpness from the AE3000.

Did test with Supernatural, this series kill the AE3000 black level because it's desaturated and a lot of the action is in the dark. Well it's wayyyy better on the Sony, you really see the advantage of LCOS right there.

I've tested Transformers II, it's superb, also a good disc to test de IRIS, witch i never saw work in 2h45 of this movie, black level were very good too for 2.35:1, black bar are way blacker.

Had the chance to do AE3000 vs HW20 back to back and you could easily see the difference.

Very good buy.. Be back later with screenshots..
Got screenshots to share?!
post #156 of 374
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Got screenshots to share?!

Would this projector look good with the Black Diamond II 1.4 110 inch screen ?
post #157 of 374
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Originally Posted by tjohnson4611 View Post

You are going to like this projector. I have spent some time with it and it is bright, very sharp. Shooting to 122 inch from about 14 feet. Absolutely pleased with the Sony.

How is this proj with motion and sports...esp football! None of th folks that buy this proj come back to tell us how it looks at home or to share screen shots, i winder why?
post #158 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

Would this projector look good with the Black Diamond II 1.4 110 inch screen ?

Don't know - but it better go with a DaLite 89758W Designer Contour HDTV Format 106 Inch Diagonal 52X92 Matte White with Built-in IR Remote Control screen that is being delivered Friday!
post #159 of 374
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Don't know - but it better go with a DaLite 89758W Designer Contour HDTV Format 106 Inch Diagonal 52X92 Matte White with Built-in IR Remote Control screen that is being delivered Friday!

please post pic after you get every thign set up
post #160 of 374
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Don't know - but it better go with a DaLite 89758W Designer Contour HDTV Format 106 Inch Diagonal 52X92 Matte White with Built-in IR Remote Control screen that is being delivered Friday!

please post pic after you get every thing set up
post #161 of 374
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Originally Posted by kraine View Post

My review is online :

http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/266...PL-HW20-0.html

In french of course

how do i use google translator to read this in english?
post #162 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

Would this projector look good with the Black Diamond II 1.4 110 inch screen ?

I think it would be awesome with that screen though you really don't need that expensive screen.
I have the Elite CineTension2 CineWhite, looks beautiful.
post #163 of 374
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I think it would be awesome with that screen though you really don't need that expensive screen.
I have the Elite CineTension2 CineWhite, looks beautiful.

I have a lot of light in my basement..2 windows...cnat convice my wife to drywall over them. Is the pro1 brighter than the so ny 90es?
post #164 of 374
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I think it would be awesome with that screen though you really don't need that expensive screen.
I have the Elite CineTension2 CineWhite, looks beautiful.

I have a lot of light in my basement..2 windows...cnat convice my wife to drywall over them. Is the pro1 brighter than the so ny 90es? Is a 120 inch screen too much for the pro1 ?
post #165 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

I have a lot of light in my basement..2 windows...cnat convice my wife to drywall over them. Is the pro1 brighter than the so ny 90es? Is a 120 inch screen too much for the pro1 ?

We have 7 windows in the room where the VPL-VWPro1 is installed, still we can watch them during daytime. I have 120" screen, first I had VPL-VW60 (it was watchable during daytime), however, with VWPro1, it's amazingly bright enough for daytime. And night -u can image how bright it is..
post #166 of 374
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Originally Posted by Dinomon View Post

We have 7 windows in the room where the VPL-VWPro1 is installed, still we can watch them during daytime. I have 120" screen, first I had VPL-VW60 (it was watchable during daytime), however, with VWPro1, it's amazingly bright enough for daytime. And night -u can image how bright it is..

D,

Any chance yu can post so me screen shots of bluy ray movies in 24p and sme shots of HD sports. Thanks !
post #167 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

D,

Any chance yu can post so me screen shots of bluy ray movies in 24p and sme shots of HD sports. Thanks !

You can see some HD sports shots. Trust me, it's very nice.

Also, yesterday I hooked up Dish Network and OTA program to the Projector, it was very nice to see the quality. I have to say, I am very happy with this purchase.
post #168 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

I have a lot of light in my basement..2 windows...cnat convice my wife to drywall over them. Is the pro1 brighter than the so ny 90es? Is a 120 inch screen too much for the pro1 ?

Try Blackout Cloth - drywall is unnecessary. Visit your local dressmaker supplier.

ted
post #169 of 374
My Pro1 is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I can't wait. Hopefully this will a nice reliable upgrade from my first projector (Optoma HD80). The HD80 made two trips in for service and now has an intermittent lamp driver, but it throws a nice picture IMHO when it is working.

jae3cpamd - assuming I get this tomorrow, I'll try to post up some pics from a blu-ray over the weekend.
post #170 of 374
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Originally Posted by McBain View Post

My Pro1 is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I can't wait. Hopefully this will a nice reliable upgrade from my first projector (Optoma HD80). The HD80 made two trips in for service and now has an intermittent lamp driver, but it throws a nice picture IMHO when it is working.

jae3cpamd - assuming I get this tomorrow, I'll try to post up some pics from a blu-ray over the weekend.

Great...also some sports pics from your sat/cable provider if you can! Thanks!
post #171 of 374
Mine XPRO1 is sitting it its box on the floor and my 106" da-lite screen is sitting on the floor too....just waiting for me to install them!
post #172 of 374
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Mine XPRO1 is sitting it its box on the floor and my 106" da-lite screen is sitting on the floor too....just waiting for me to install them!

My gawd man.....get to instatlling....and screen shots for us all!
post #173 of 374
I've got a lot on my mind now- I'm now worried the throw is too short to the screen. I have a Mitsy 73" 3D TV that the screen will scroll open in front of to watch but after reading the Sony book (just began) and now learning that it should be installed a foot from the back wall has complicated matters. I thought I could put it @3" from the wall but now I'm reading they say "not" due to ventilation. So now I have 'issues' to see if this projector will work in my room. Right now I'm showing IF I put it up @3" from the back wall I'd have a just over a 10'6" throw which would work perfect for the 106" screen - but now reading that it should be @12" that complicates matters....GRRRRR...(and I need to go to HD to get a 12' 2x6 to attach to my ceiling to support the screen..and i need to paint it to blend in with the ceiling).
post #174 of 374
Something that is NOT clear in the manual is if when calculating the installation position in relation to the screen size is the formula based on the diagonal or width of the screen??!!!
post #175 of 374
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Originally Posted by jae3cpamd View Post

Great...also some sports pics from your sat/cable provider if you can! Thanks!

I don't have sat or cable, but I do have an HD tuner for local OTA stations. I should be able to get some pics from college hoops, NHL, NBA, or Nascar over the weekend.
post #176 of 374
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Originally Posted by McBain View Post

I don't have sat or cable, but I do have an HD tuner for local OTA stations. I should be able to get some pics from college hoops, NHL, NBA, or Nascar over the weekend.

Great...it will be very much apppreciated by all here !
post #177 of 374
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

I've got a lot on my mind now- I'm now worried the throw is too short to the screen. I have a Mitsy 73" 3D TV that the screen will scroll open in front of to watch but after reading the Sony book (just began) and now learning that it should be installed a foot from the back wall has complicated matters. I thought I could put it @3" from the wall but now I'm reading they say "not" due to ventilation. So now I have 'issues' to see if this projector will work in my room. Right now I'm showing IF I put it up @3" from the back wall I'd have a just over a 10'6" throw which would work perfect for the 106" screen - but now reading that it should be @12" that complicates matters....GRRRRR...(and I need to go to HD to get a 12' 2x6 to attach to my ceiling to support the screen..and i need to paint it to blend in with the ceiling).

My screen is in front of my RPTV and doesn't care. Perhaps they are talking about the projector.
post #178 of 374
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

My screen is in front of my RPTV and doesn't care. Perhaps they are talking about the projector.

The screen in front of my RPTV isn't the concern - the throw distance is.
post #179 of 374
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

The screen in front of my RPTV isn't the concern - the throw distance is.

There are very high quality conversion lenses available for <$1K that will shorten your throw. AVS sells them, call one of the AVS guys.

http://shop.avscience.com/Projection...nses_c_47.html
post #180 of 374
The throw ratio range for this projector is 1.47 to 2.18 times the screen width. If you mount the projector measured from the front of the lens to the screen along a line perpendicular to the screen, the projected image will fill the screen after adjustment of the zoom and focusing the projector. Closer than 1.47 times the width and the image will not fill the screen. Farther than 2.18 times the width and the image will be too big. Asking whether a projector will work well with a particular projectors always is answerable with it depends. Screens often have more to do with the room and lights in the room. Screen gain, throw distance, lamp age all enter into the equation. Saying one doesn't need that good of screen, no offense, is rather inane. How about one doesn't need as good as projector as the Pro 1 or one doesn't need or want even a better projector. If you want to discuss screens, go to the screen forums or give one of us at AVS a call. We can take you through it all very quickly. Every screen and every projector involves compromises. One sets an objective and designs and choses components to obtain that objective. The Pro1 is a nice machine. We have more arriving shortly. If you are looking for one, please give us a call. Most end up very pleased when they do so and the whole AVS staff enjoys meeting and chatting with AVS members.
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