OK, i'll try and keep this short with the intention of asking in the end, for some much needed dialog on basically...WHY?
I have had this for about 10 years now,
MARANTZ SR82000
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CCsQ9QEwAg
Curious of what the diffference really is between DTSHD/DOLBY HD, well basically PCM audio and good old DOLBY DIGIAL AND DTS. So i picked up PIONEER VSX 1020 K at a markdown at a local store.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ers/VSX-1020-K
Brought it home (first thing i noticed was the lack of weight, my marantz is like lifting a cinderblock) hooked the HDMI cable from the PS3 to the receiver and from the receiver to the 111FD, initiated the MCACC (another feature i was curious to see the audible differences). After the clicks and pops in goes a BLURAY. I listened to THE DARK NIGHT, BOLT and a few others.
Bottom line, the sound was unimpressive. Bass was there but wasn't THERE and i have an SVC Sub. Although the sound was accurate as far as distance, phase etc., i had to turn the volume up about 15db higher for one and two, as we all know bass creates the feeling of an audio track, it just wasn't there. One thing worth mentioning, my manual measurments were comparable to the MCACC which was reassuring on the Marantz.
I changed nothing except the A/V receivers and the HDMI connection. So why does my 10 year old A/V reciever's sound be so much more complete, detailed, and bass WAY more deeper than the newer model that is capable of PCM audio? I don't even HAVE an HDMI connection on the Marantz.
The Video conversion was however, pretty dam good. I'm a staunch believer that extra processing degrades the signal but this reciever passing the 1080P via HDMI1.4 was noticeably to say the least, much better.
My Second A/B Comparison:
I have the LG DN798 1080p Upconvert DVD Player. Now this is the third time i've done this over the past year. I hooked up the HDMI for video and switched between the PS3 using an Optical cable for audio on the Marantz. I listened to BATMAN RETURNS/I ROBOT and KING KONG. Every time that I've done this comparison even with other DVDs the overall quality of sound from the LG outperforms the PS3. The sound is just..so much more heavier, tight and precise - i'm simply dumbfounded. BATMAN RETURNS has some really nice LFE and I ROBOT is even better (see the tunnel scene) audio wise. I just do not understand this. Again i changed nothing except the DVD player as I did with the receiver, nothing else and the sound quality is by far exceptional over the PS3.
I returned the Pioneer disappointed.
Isn't sound quality supposed to be improved using the PS3? Could it be that the PS3 has so much more circuitry and processing that it degrades the sound unlike the LG which is a DVD player only? If anyone has an idea, i really would like some insight and your thoughts. Happy Holidays to you as well.
I have had this for about 10 years now,
MARANTZ SR82000
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CCsQ9QEwAg
Curious of what the diffference really is between DTSHD/DOLBY HD, well basically PCM audio and good old DOLBY DIGIAL AND DTS. So i picked up PIONEER VSX 1020 K at a markdown at a local store.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ers/VSX-1020-K
Brought it home (first thing i noticed was the lack of weight, my marantz is like lifting a cinderblock) hooked the HDMI cable from the PS3 to the receiver and from the receiver to the 111FD, initiated the MCACC (another feature i was curious to see the audible differences). After the clicks and pops in goes a BLURAY. I listened to THE DARK NIGHT, BOLT and a few others.
Bottom line, the sound was unimpressive. Bass was there but wasn't THERE and i have an SVC Sub. Although the sound was accurate as far as distance, phase etc., i had to turn the volume up about 15db higher for one and two, as we all know bass creates the feeling of an audio track, it just wasn't there. One thing worth mentioning, my manual measurments were comparable to the MCACC which was reassuring on the Marantz.
I changed nothing except the A/V receivers and the HDMI connection. So why does my 10 year old A/V reciever's sound be so much more complete, detailed, and bass WAY more deeper than the newer model that is capable of PCM audio? I don't even HAVE an HDMI connection on the Marantz.
The Video conversion was however, pretty dam good. I'm a staunch believer that extra processing degrades the signal but this reciever passing the 1080P via HDMI1.4 was noticeably to say the least, much better.
My Second A/B Comparison:
I have the LG DN798 1080p Upconvert DVD Player. Now this is the third time i've done this over the past year. I hooked up the HDMI for video and switched between the PS3 using an Optical cable for audio on the Marantz. I listened to BATMAN RETURNS/I ROBOT and KING KONG. Every time that I've done this comparison even with other DVDs the overall quality of sound from the LG outperforms the PS3. The sound is just..so much more heavier, tight and precise - i'm simply dumbfounded. BATMAN RETURNS has some really nice LFE and I ROBOT is even better (see the tunnel scene) audio wise. I just do not understand this. Again i changed nothing except the DVD player as I did with the receiver, nothing else and the sound quality is by far exceptional over the PS3.
I returned the Pioneer disappointed.
Isn't sound quality supposed to be improved using the PS3? Could it be that the PS3 has so much more circuitry and processing that it degrades the sound unlike the LG which is a DVD player only? If anyone has an idea, i really would like some insight and your thoughts. Happy Holidays to you as well.
