'Falling Skies' on TNT HD - Page 24

Maybe the "greys" are harnessed humans ..

Anyone got a better name than "greys" .. ??

When I first saw them, I immediately thought of a taller version of "Close Encounters" .. Spielburg is consistent ..

The Greys are a cross between Spielberg's aliens in Close Encounters and his aliens in A.I.

This was a much kinder response than the one I was in the middle of writing. And I about sprayed Ice Tea all over my keyboard when I read the 'Graduate Doctor Tree" line.

They are officially now called "The Overlords."

Fun fact from Greg Beeman's blog:

Will's character - Weaver, believe it or not, was originally going to die at the end of the pilot. But, once cast, Will made the character so compelling that TNT and Mr. Spielberg wanted to keep him going - and eventually he became Noah Wyle's main foil and antagonist in the series.

that's how I saw it as well...I didn't see them as being aliens from another planet brought to Earth as worker bees...why would they need to bring another species to Earth as a labor force when they could just enslave the human race (at least the young kids)?

Maybe it take a while for the evolution process to happen and it's too much effort for the greys to control everyone themselves until it does. Therefore, they use previously harnessed species that are already "evolved" to do the mind control thing until the transformation fully takes place.

Heck, I don't know.

I can make sh** up on the spot just as easily as the writers. Having it be good takes a few more minutes.

BTW: regarding the camera: I can get film in any grocery or drug store. Frankly, I could steal the processing chemicals from there if I needed them. The machines are electronic, so they'd be DOA, but you could use them in manual developing trays. I'm not sure why everyone thinks film doesn't exist anymore. People still buy it and it lasts for at least 5 years - longer if you don't care about how the colors look. In fact, Fuji film ages to a nice warm tone before the greens drop out. In fact, I know a lot of pros that used to use expired Fuji Velvia specifically because they liked the look.

If you want easy, you can still buy bulk rolls of T-Max 400, which is very easy to use black and white film. Processing is easy, too. Unlike with color, you can use a safe light when printing, as well. Color needs complete darkness or an enclosed processing machine.

Also, my Pentax K-1000 is a fully manual 35MM camera (no power zoom, no autofocus, no electronic shutter or motor winder). There's a button cell battery, but only for the internal light meter and I've been shooting long enough not to need it. Since all it makes is a quiet "click" in decent lighting, it means it's great when you want to be stealthy with it.

Who says that the skitter body grew around the harness? The "greys" could easily have placed the harness inside the body. We just do not know the life cycle of a skitter, yet.

Well, if you watched the episode, they specifically said they had been there for about 3 weeks.


Yeah, you know, like most doctors, nurses, and EMTs. They are trained by other doctors, nurses, and EMTs. I used to be a Red Cross first aid instructor, and am still a disaster volunteer, so I'm pretty confident I can still teach some basic first aid and triage skills. I'd imagine the doctor lady can do a pretty decent job continuing the training of the girl who was already a first year med student in college.

Seems they are making the skitters the ones that were harnassed humans that got transformed (at least that is what they eluded to in this episode).

They haven't even been there 9 months yet. What is the longest time the rescued kids had been harnessed? If it's anywhere close to the amount of time the aliens have been there then non of the current skitters could be from a human child.

Unless they had been studying us for many years and have been abducting people and transforming them until they got a large enough army of skitters built up for an invasion.

I think thats the intent, they've taken people for a long time and converted them, see Speilbergs other series,,, taken

I'm thinking the harness inside the skitter is actually how they're able to control the minds of the kids with a harness, not a kid that's "evolved" into a skitter. We'll see.

Well, obviously, the harness is only effective on folks still in a growth phase .. IE kids / teens ..

My boys and I are calling them the Talls.

Although I kinda like "The Overlords" .. what happens if they have a boss as well .. "Omnipotent Pooba" .. ??

It's a good thing they kept Weaver around, IMO .. he's really the star of the show AFAIC ..

That has been my thought since the beginning... that the Skitters would be revealed as another enslaved race from another planet... and ultimately it would make the humans think about trying to kill Skitters once they realize they too are pawns and may even be children themselves of another race.

Because the process takes a while... or because you need to have some Skitters running around doing things like capturing kids to harness.

Since we didn't see the war itself... we picked up some 9 months later... we don't know if Skitters were present on day one or started popping up later.

I, for one, am happy to welcome our grey overlords.

In the Web comic Moon finds a Polaroid camera which she offers to Wyle to document the invasion. Wyle declines saying he can't hold a gun and camera at the same time. Obviously he changed his mind.

Wow, that takes me back. I haven't thought about T-Max in about 15 years! Developing images is fun and relaxing (apart from the cleanup), kids today with inkjets don't know what they missed.

Thought the new overlords and the harness revelation were good plot twists. I was wondering what was up with the kids skin hardening around his spikes. Also making more sense that the mechs are bipods as well. Seems like it's a little early for a season finale but looking forward to it.

The harness cured the kids disease. It gives them increased strength and stamina. These effects persist after the harness is removed. It's clear to me that the kids have been changed, and a process started that does not end when the harness is removed. The doc spent a good bit of time demonstrating to us that the skin around the harness spikes was changing into something very Skitter-like.

I didn't mean that the current skitters are human kids, but that the skitters have the same harness (on the inside) they could be from a another planet and the inhabitants of that planet that were harnessed. But when they point that the boy is physically changing (jumping rope 2 1/2 hours, and his back becoming as hard as a rock that he can't feel) they seem to point to that the harness changes who wears it. Perhaps it changes whoever wears it into skitters and the current skitters are another alien race captured.

I agree as I earlier postulated. The skitters are probably a race conquered by the grays. The skitters have offspring developed through attachment of their larvae. Ultimately it is the grays who are conquering the planet with the skitters as their front line pawns.

Alien race invades our planet to kill/enslave us OR Alien race of slave children invade our planet to kill/enslave us.

Who in the world would care?

Any human with a functioning brain would kill either one without a second thought.
... and to take it a step further, a race of human children from Earth that have been irreversibly genetically altered to want to kill/enslave us - Yep!, you guessed it - kill 'em without a second thought.

We've had no problem killing those from other countries that pose a threat to us, why would aliens garner any additional consideration?

Exactly. Which is why, in the real world, Rick would have been taken out and killed by somebody shortly after he said "I can't beleive you can eat their food". That was too obvious a sign for most people that Rick was long gone. And if he wasn't killed then, he certainly would have been almost seconds after Weaver saw the picture of his house, and realized that Rick was sitting there listening to every word of the plan to blow up the Alien structure.

The fact the the war plan discussion happened anywhere other than a locked room with only essential personnel is another one of those dumb moments in the show.

good point

I would like to bring up the tiny fact is that the amount of armed citizens here in the United States would make it hard for any invading force either pretend Alien or from another actual country on this planet difficult.I mean come on the alien armor is thicker than a 12 inch steel plating on a tank? One 50 cal round fired from a weapon would take a mech out easily, the impact alone would knock it over. I love Sci Fi shows that would have you believe that only the "monster" can hurt humans but humans cannot hurt the 'monster"somehow.

I also agree there is no way in Hell they would allow Rick to mouth off like that and still be part of the community. He's a threat like Pope supposedly was and Pope wasn't harnessed.

You are correct it probably would but you have to find the weapons to do that first (and then have someone who knows how to use them) and as glossed over in the first episode the aliens targeted military first not with ground Mechs but with huge spacecraft and city-destroying energy weapons.

There may be a lot of civilians with firearms in the country but I don't think they all have armories full of .50 cal rifles and machine guns.

If you read the Web comic (which I think is actually more exciting than the show) you can see what happens when they find and bring some heavy weapons to the battle. I think there's a militia group in one of the chapters with Barretts too.

I guess you didn't watch War of the Worlds, either version.

Aliens with an aerial bombardment of nukes or nuke like weapons would easily neutralize armed citizens. The total number of armed citizens would have no effect on an arieal attack with superior weapons. They would be wiped out without ever even getting the chance to meet the invaders in combat. Nukes have a way of doing that to a population.

I have them both, the original and remake with the great audio track There were still citizens in both movies that survived the attack.