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post #961 of 2147
Will be interesting now that they lost their food truck on how to replenish. Also never any mention of how they come by more fuel. I don't mind a little belief suspension but this is turning into a fairy tale. Hope it gets better. Not much else in the SF world to watch right now. frown.gif
post #962 of 2147
OK, imo the last 15 minutes of episode 2 we're pretty good. So the guy is on the AA gun and the Aliens are coming at them and the "Mike Mike" is bouncing off of them... "John Carter" from ER mans the guns and they all go down, and he saves the day....Hmmm....
Moon Bad Blood looking good, as is her Asst. Medic..... I also like the "bad guy", reminds me of "Jester" from V, the original....
post #963 of 2147
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Originally Posted by 73shark View Post

. Not much else in the SF world to watch right now. frown.gif

Check out Continuum. It's not on US TV but if you have youtube or other ways it is worth it.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1412519/continuum-new-series-on-canadian-tv
post #964 of 2147
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

They started making ammo and the Mech buster ammo last season.

Yes I remember that but I thought they also referenced them finding a cache of ammo(in the previous 3 months) sometime during the Premiere last night. It was only one sentence.
post #965 of 2147
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Ammo is easy to explain, you kill the mechs, you get more ammo.

In theory, yes... but they waste a lot of ammo.... They blew their entire supply of the special stuff in that finale last year and took down what, one? maybe two Mechs? I can't remember...

Then factor in that they say they have been on the run for 3 months... and lost 100 people! So... when did they have time to sit still for long enough to melt down that Mech stuff and make new ammo? They can't make that stuff on the run... they need time to camp in order to make the quantity of ammo they seemed to have last night.

I hate to nitpick, but that is another plothole that is hard to explain. I generally like the show, but sometimes they put something right in your face like that.

Consider the bridge... they didn't have time to properly fix the bridge... they didn't even have time to build a proper overlay, look at how that thing barely covered the gap... To be safe, they really needed a much bigger "plank" than that to make the bridge passable and avoid the medical bus getting stuck like that. That's the duress they are apparently under... so no time to sit and make bullets!

Meanwhile... the "all non-essential personnel clear the bridge" order from the Captain... it begs the question... Why were any non-essential personnel lingering there in the first place? The essential people would be the ones securing the rear from attack, the ones installing and watching that bridge cover and then directing traffic... there shouldn't have been any people just "hanging out" when they are running from their lives. Can you imagine hanging out and checking out the scenery in that situation until the Captain orders you off?

And Pope has a "band of degenerates" now? Did they find more degenerates? And then let them all run free IF they are in fact degenerates? That seems like a problem waiting to happen.
post #966 of 2147
We fired up the theater for the premiere, but only made it about 10 minutes. The bright yellow TNT logo along with the bright white "#FALLINGSKIES" and "SEASON PREMIERE" made any dark scenes virtually unwatchable. Not good for a show with as many dark scenes as this one.

We're going to try watching during the daylight or maybe recording a repeat showing that may not have the same idiotic bug. Otherwise we'll save them up on the DVR and hope that eventually they change to a normal semi-opaque dim white bug in the near future - or wait for Netflix.
post #967 of 2147
I had checked out on the first season and generally thought these two new episodes improved on the first season. They focused on action and shied away from the maudlin melodrama that dragged so much of season one to a halt.
post #968 of 2147
I enjoyed the first two episodes of the new season. They made a lot of changes. Guess the show's writers didn't want them to be able to jam the signal as it was quickly changed. Lots of changes, but not bad changes in my mind. Still a good show and interesting.

As for the uber ammo. They did say it was 3 months since the end of season 2, sounds like a lot of time to melt some alien metal and add it to the bullets, they aren't making anything per se they are just adding the melted liquid to the bullets tips.
post #969 of 2147
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

We fired up the theater for the premiere, but only made it about 10 minutes. The bright yellow TNT logo along with the bright white "#FALLINGSKIES" and "SEASON PREMIERE" made any dark scenes virtually unwatchable. Not good for a show with as many dark scenes as this one.
We're going to try watching during the daylight or maybe recording a repeat showing that may not have the same idiotic bug. Otherwise we'll save them up on the DVR and hope that eventually they change to a normal semi-opaque dim white bug in the near future - or wait for Netflix.

I didn't even notice the bug there. I guess it's on everything now so I tune it out.
post #970 of 2147
I am annoyed by ANY bug/ad used by any network .. I have said for years that if someone could come up with a device that would eliminate these things, they would make a fortune ..

That said, does anyone think the PQ has improved from last season .. ?? It may just be my imagination, but the quality seems better this year ..
post #971 of 2147
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

I had checked out on the first season and generally thought these two new episodes improved on the first season. They focused on action and shied away from the maudlin melodrama that dragged so much of season one to a halt.
I wouldn't get TOO happy about this---it's a basic cable drama, which means budget restrictions, which means there will be episodes where nothing expensive happens. You watch for the 'bottle' episodes--some crisis in the camp, where everything takes place on set. Bound to happen.

That said, I enjoyed the premier, and I admire how they've managed to do more with less than Terra Nova ever could. Better cast and writing can take you a long way.
post #972 of 2147

Mostly more of the same, if a bit better.  Silly plot holes and lazy writing still abound.  I had to laugh during the scene in part 2 where they were prepping the assault and the young lovers walking/talking along a river midday, worried about how to cross, etc.  In the background, apparently unnoticed by the production crew, a motor boat is happily sailing along.  It appears in two separate shots.  So much for suspension of disbelief.    

post #973 of 2147
From Greg Beeman's blog:

As we began the season both of the writers who ran season 1 were now unavailable. Graham Yost was going to stay full time on JUSTIFIED, the show he created, and Mark Verhieden had been hired to run a new show. So after a thorough search for the right candidate, Dreamworks and TNT hired Remi. (Luckily, a couple of months in, Mark Verheiden's project was delayed and he came back to us as a consulting producer - and thus was available to write the first episode.)

Remi had a lot of ideas about how to keep the good stuff we’d established in Season 1, to diminish the things that weren’t as strong and, overall, to amp up the action and tension. One of the first things he and I discussed was the idea of freeing the 2nd Mass. from the confines of the school where they’d been pinned down almost all of the first season. The school served it’s purpose in the beginning, and it was a good decision from a budgetary standpoint, as it gave us a home base. But it had always seemed to me that we stayed their too long. After the skitters discovered our heroes, in last season's episode 5 and 6, I’d always felt we should have moved out. But budgetary restrictions forced us to stay until the end.

Steven Spielberg’s original conception of the series was that the 2nd Mass would be nomadic. But nomadic isn’t practical TV. On the other hand I’ve never been a big advocate of “practical” TV. I’ve always had the attitude that, if it’s the right thing for the show we can figure out a way to make it work.

The new idea that evolved for season 2 was to create a mobile refugee camp made up of vehicles and rag-tag tents. The 2nd Mass would be constantly on the move and we’d set up camp in different locations every episode. The theory was that we could get a small sound stage and we could shoot the vehicle interiors and tent interiors indoors. (We were starting later this year than we did last and that mean we’d be shooting through the Canadian winter – so some indoors was important.)

...

http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/2012/06/blog-post.html


I haven't watched either of these episodes yet, but if it means getting them moving it can only be an improvement. It will alleviate the complacency and lack of danger that permeated the first season as they sat around the school playing games and doing the laundry.

Greg Beeman's blog is the high point of the entire show for me. I enjoy reading his detailed behind-the-scenes breakdown and at least then it explains why they did what they did, even if it didn't make sense. At least some of the time.
post #974 of 2147
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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

Mostly more of the same, if a bit better.  Silly plot holes and lazy writing still abound.  I had to laugh during the scene in part 2 where they were prepping the assault and the young lovers walking/talking along a river midday, worried about how to cross, etc.  In the background, apparently unnoticed by the production crew, a motor boat is happily sailing along.  It appears in two separate shots.  So much for suspension of disbelief.    

No s*** .. lol. Well I said I fast forward during scenes I feel add nothing and so I totally missed this blunder.
post #975 of 2147
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

Greg Beeman's blog is the high point of the entire show for me. I enjoy reading his detailed behind-the-scenes breakdown and at least then it explains why they did what they did, even if it didn't make sense. At least some of the time.

Greg is such a good director. I really enjoy everything he does.
post #976 of 2147
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Originally Posted by vfxproducer View Post

Greg is such a good director. I really enjoy everything he does.

Gotta agree with that .. "Heroes" .. "Smallville" .. I think he even did an episode of "Once Upon a Time" ..
post #977 of 2147
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

As for the uber ammo. They did say it was 3 months since the end of season 2, sounds like a lot of time to melt some alien metal and add it to the bullets, they aren't making anything per se they are just adding the melted liquid to the bullets tips.

I'm trying not to nitpick... and I do like the show... but consider... Pope was the only one making bullets 3 months ago. In the last 3 months they said they lost 100 people and have been constantly on the move running from the aliens.

IF they had a camp, then 3 months would be fine for Pope to train some help and scavenge for metal and make bullets perhaps... but they have been on the run and losing people and firing off lots of bullets... so logically, since they can't just go to the uber-bullet shop... I don't see how they could keep up with the pace at which they are firing off those bullets.

They even made a point of mentioning that shell they fired at the flying thing was a one-of-a-kind... so they only had time and materials over 3 months to make one of those... which gives you an idea of how little time and materials they should have had to make the other bullets too.
post #978 of 2147
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post


They even made a point of mentioning that shell they fired at the flying thing was a one-of-a-kind... so they only had time and materials over 3 months to make one of those... which gives you an idea of how little time and materials they should have had to make the other bullets too.

Wasn't that the LAWS rocket? Or was that what they shot at the comm tower?
post #979 of 2147
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

That said, does anyone think the PQ has improved from last season .. ?? It may just be my imagination, but the quality seems better this year ..

I'll bet you just tweeked that Pro8100 during the off-season. wink.gif
post #980 of 2147
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

I'm trying not to nitpick... and I do like the show... but consider... Pope was the only one making bullets 3 months ago. In the last 3 months they said they lost 100 people and have been constantly on the move running from the aliens.
IF they had a camp, then 3 months would be fine for Pope to train some help and scavenge for metal and make bullets perhaps... but they have been on the run and losing people and firing off lots of bullets... so logically, since they can't just go to the uber-bullet shop... I don't see how they could keep up with the pace at which they are firing off those bullets.
They even made a point of mentioning that shell they fired at the flying thing was a one-of-a-kind... so they only had time and materials over 3 months to make one of those... which gives you an idea of how little time and materials they should have had to make the other bullets too.

The one of a kind was the rocket they fired, they mentioned when they shot the flyer down that it was the special ammo they were proud of.

I don't think it would take much time to show someone how to melt metal, there really isn't that much involved in replacing a bullets tip. They could do it at any time.

When watching a show about aliens taking over earth, I don't think we should be looking at everything to be factual. biggrin.gif
post #981 of 2147
An armor piercing projectile, which I assume is what they would have used against the Mechs .. have a hardened and special nose .. it is not just a matter of melting down some metal ..

There are generally two types of metal used .. because the use of a hard metal throughout makes the projectile harmful to the barrel ..

However, I don't expect shows like this to be fully technically accurate ..
post #982 of 2147
The minute a poster says "I do not like to nitpick, but"

You know your going to hear some niypicking.
post #983 of 2147
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Originally Posted by Argee View Post

The minute a poster says "I do not like to nitpick, but"
You know your going to hear some niypicking.

I do not like to nitpick, but, what is "niypicking"?  biggrin.gif

 

(Sorry, I really couldn't resist that one)

post #984 of 2147
Wait...

...are we nitpicking about nickpicking?

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post #985 of 2147
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

An armor piercing projectile, which I assume is what they would have used against the Mechs .. have a hardened and special nose .. it is not just a matter of melting down some metal ..
There are generally two types of metal used .. because the use of a hard metal throughout makes the projectile harmful to the barrel ..
However, I don't expect shows like this to be fully technically accurate ..

I think they showed in the previous season that they coated the bullets in the metal or they used regular bullets with this metal on the tip, it was the alien metal that could pierce alien metal. They showed that guy making some pretty quickly.
post #986 of 2147
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

An armor piercing projectile, which I assume is what they would have used against the Mechs .. have a hardened and special nose .. it is not just a matter of melting down some metal ..
There are generally two types of metal used .. because the use of a hard metal throughout makes the projectile harmful to the barrel ..
However, I don't expect shows like this to be fully technically accurate ..
Even with that knowledge, if you were fighting for your life and that was the only effective ammunition you've found, would you not use it because it would polish the rifling out of the barrel?

Or would you use it as long as you could and then pick up a dead somebodies weapon and start over?
post #987 of 2147
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Originally Posted by earletp View Post

Even with that knowledge, if you were fighting for your life and that was the only effective ammunition you've found, would you not use it because it would polish the rifling out of the barrel?
Or would you use it as long as you could and then pick up a dead somebodies weapon and start over?

I'm not really speculating on how and why .. just posted that as an informational item ..

I will say, however, based on the weaponry used in the show, they have a pretty good prop department ..
post #988 of 2147
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Originally Posted by Argee View Post

The minute a poster says "I do not like to nitpick, but"
You know your going to hear some niypicking.

I don't always like to nitpick... but when I do, I like to nitpick things I watch smile.gif

Like I said... not a huge deal to me... but something I can't help but notice. As we've debated many times in many show threads... suspension of belief is necessary to accept some aspects of a fantasy program... but when they purport to set the show in a realistic world... then you expect that world to follow the rules that have been laid out.

IF they suddenly can make those uber-bullets without any effort (i.e. it all happens off-screen and they never run out again like they did in the finale)... then it loses meaning. It's like the jamming thing. Over the hiatus, somebody realized that the ability to jam those mechs like that was too powerful a tool and they either would have less threat this season because of the jamming OR they had to move forward.

So... they chose to move forward with a throwaway "they learned to overcome our jamming signal" but they also similarly glossed over how long it took them to make a handful of bullets... so they got rid of one too-easy plot device (the jamming) but kept the other (magic bullets) and now apparently those bullets are so easy to make that they can make them while on the run and firing dozens a second... and not run out except for the rocket.

It doesn't make me not watch the show... but it does make it less believable within the world they created.
post #989 of 2147
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Originally Posted by earletp View Post

Or would you use it as long as you could and then pick up a dead somebodies weapon and start over?

No. Weaponry is a limited supply. You can't afford to waste what you have. Yes, they seem to waste a lot of bullets. But, wasting the weapons used to fire those bullets is stupid.

Too bad they can't make use of Mec weapons. Not all of the Mecs that they stop will have their weapon's destroyed.
post #990 of 2147
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I'll take any Sci Fi I can get these days .. and I liked the show ..
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I am with you there. That said ... Noah Wyle blows (as Tom Mason), I'm sorry. He is still a weak choice for the "main" character of this show. He was last season too. The thing is: I can't be sure if it's solely his mediocre acting, or also some of the trite Pollyanna views the writers give his character regarding human nature that make me dislike him so much. In any case, nothing would make me happier than them killing off his character - which will never happen. But, as the poster above says, I'll take any SciFi I can get, and this is fairly good ...
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