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post #2011 of 3539
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Originally Posted by venhith View Post

Has anyone thought of using any kind of Cable boot to cover the plugs?

In what way? I'm not sure I follow what you mean.
I have the lower half of my plugs covered on some cables using heat shrink tubing like this, is that what you meant?
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post #2012 of 3539
He said cable boots which to me will not be big enough to go over plugs.
post #2013 of 3539
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

He said cable boots which to me will not be big enough to go over plugs.

In that case, yeah I agree. The "pants" are typically the same inner diameter as the insulated conductors' outer diameter on each leg, so the connectors would be too large.
The image I posted above is a 'pant' or 'boot' on twin 8 gauge conductors. The connector outer diameter happened to be about the same size for each insulated lead. That's why the heat shrink fit so smoothly over both the boot and the connector. If the boot was large enough to fit over the connector's shell, then the boot would not be a snug fit over the wire insulation within that boot.

As of this posting, I've seen no boots or cable pants with a "boot cut" flare at the ends.
post #2014 of 3539
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Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post

In what way? I'm not sure I follow what you mean.
I have the lower half of my plugs covered on some cables using heat shrink tubing like this:




Is that what you meant?

kind of. A boot would go over the plug. If using banana plugs, such as the GLS ones, they are exposed and not covered by any plastic,rubber,etc... If the + and - plugs were to touch by accident, or be bridged somehow, you would have some bad times.


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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

not possible IMHO.

Sure it is. just gotta source the correct parts.
post #2015 of 3539
Quote:
Originally Posted by venhith View Post


kind of. A boot would go over the plug. If using banana plugs, such as the GLS ones, they are exposed and not covered by any plastic,rubber,etc... If the + and - plugs were to touch by accident, or be bridged somehow, you would have some bad times.

Sure it is. just gotta source the correct parts.

I'm gonna say no it isn't. If you were ever to find pants to go over the plugs to, then they would be way way too large for the wires. The inlet size would be huge also.
post #2016 of 3539
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

I'm gonna say no it isn't. If you were ever to find pants to go over the plugs to, then they would be way way too large for the wires. The inlet size would be huge also.

Would only need a flare. Inlet side ID would be OD of the cable pants, outlet side would just have to be big enough to fit around the banana plug's largest OD. a clear color would still preserve the looks of the plug. would not be much of a problem to slide it on the cable pants for when you need to lock/unlock the plugs.
post #2017 of 3539
I guess you are not talking about what we are by saying cable pants.



These are cable pants. If you were to get a pant, which I am almost positive they dont make to be big enough to go over the plugs, the size where the wire enters would be WAY too big. you cable would just wiggle around in the pants. If you are talking about heatshrink, then yes you can put shrink over the plugs.
post #2018 of 3539
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

I guess you are not talking about what we are by saying cable pants.

These are cable pants. If you were to get a pant, which I am almost positive they dont make to be big enough to go over the plugs, the size where the wire enters would be WAY too big. you cable would just wiggle around in the pants. If you are talking about heatshrink, then yes you can put shrink over the plugs.

I think he want cable pants that get larger at the plug and cover the plug.

As Nezff said we don't know of any that exist. However, as he described you could just get some large heat shrink that fits on the outside of the plugs and if you find one that shrinks enough you might come close to the wire OD.
post #2019 of 3539
if you are just worrying about the plugs touching(which I wouldnt) then use some 1/2 or 3/4 2:1 or 3:1 shrink.
post #2020 of 3539
Quote:
Originally Posted by nezff View Post

if you are just worrying about the plugs touching(which I wouldnt) then use some 1/2 or 3/4 2:1 or 3:1 shrink.

I agree, I wouldn't worry about the plugs touching. If I had to choose one of the ones Nezff suggested might choose the 3:1 and try and leave some hanging off the back end. That might get you what your looking for
post #2021 of 3539
or you can make a skirt, then shrink all the way up and over the plugs
post #2022 of 3539
The Cable pants are for the cabling. A boot would be additional. The idea of 3:1 shrink wrap is what i already did. I just shrieked the one end to the OD of the cable pant and left the other end to slide up and cover the plug. I know they make Actual boots that do this but i have never seen one that was used in this fashion. I have a company that would possibly make them. I am thinking of doing a run and hoping they are what i want.
post #2023 of 3539
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Originally Posted by venhith View Post

The Cable pants are for the cabling. A boot would be additional. The idea of 3:1 shrink wrap is what i already did. I just shrieked the one end to the OD of the cable pant and left the other end to slide up and cover the plug. I know they make Actual boots that do this but i have never seen one that was used in this fashion. I have a company that would possibly make them. I am thinking of doing a run and hoping they are what i want.

I myself have never seen cable pants that big, so GOOD luck
post #2024 of 3539
I still don't see a point to this. Signal path connections are low voltage, and even if they do touch while powered, there's little to no chance of damage. You shouldn't be connecting IC cables while the system is powered up, anyway. Coincidentally, messing with an audio system while it's powered up is one of the leading causes of gear damage I see in the car audio world.. just saying.
Speaker cables, maybe I could see having the added protection, but again, with the wide array of binding post styles and designs, it'd have to be fitted to a specific speaker and cable design. That said, again, don't screw with cables to the speakers or amplifiers while the system is powered, and those massive caps in the amplifiers are still charged up. That's the safest way to prevent damage to your system.
post #2025 of 3539
agreed.
post #2026 of 3539
While all that is very true, it is still not addressing that extra layer of protection. i've had things fall behind speakers and bridge the + and -. It is just another layer of protection.


I can have a cable boot made that would fit the design. i get stuff like that made all the time. its not even all that expensive. It will have to be something i'll look into the future since it looks like my original question, " has anyone seen something like this", has been answered.
post #2027 of 3539
I made a shorter center channel cable with black & gray techflex and gun metal grey banana plugs, similar to the GLS Wave Flex plugs--here are some mediocre pics.

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post #2028 of 3539
I'm about to pull the plug on purchasing the materials needed to build cables. Question: Is a heat gun required to firmly fit the heat shrink onto the cable/boots or can I simply use a lighter?
post #2029 of 3539
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Originally Posted by loopaddiction View Post

I'm about to pull the plug on purchasing the materials needed to build cables. Question: Is a heat gun required to firmly fit the heat shrink onto the cable/boots or can I simply use a lighter?

You can use a lighter
post #2030 of 3539
@steve... ooooo... those are SHARP...

@loop... you CAN use a lighter... i find it a lot easier to use a heat gun... however, if using a heat gun, be gentle... smile.gif
post #2031 of 3539
Lighters? Tiny heat guns? You guys are wimps tongue.gif

This is what you need:
http://www.looftlighter.com/looftlighter/

Make cables and start the grill at the same time!eek.gif
post #2032 of 3539
^^^

i think you should have to be specially licensed to use that... eek.gif

you gotta love a bbq accessory that comes with "an integrated bottle opener"... tongue.gif

btw guys, i've seen that thing at bfreedma's house... it is one wicked cool "man toy"... biggrin.gif
post #2033 of 3539
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

@steve... ooooo... those are SHARP...

Hey thanks, Chris.

If anyone wants to see better pics of the techflex and plugs here they are:

techflex

banana plugs
post #2034 of 3539
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Originally Posted by loopaddiction View Post

I'm about to pull the plug on purchasing the materials needed to build cables. Question: Is a heat gun required to firmly fit the heat shrink onto the cable/boots or can I simply use a lighter?

Just a simple hair dryer works perfactly....
post #2035 of 3539
Quote:
Originally Posted by loopaddiction View Post

I'm about to pull the plug on purchasing the materials needed to build cables. Question: Is a heat gun required to firmly fit the heat shrink onto the cable/boots or can I simply use a lighter?

Ehh, a lighter will leave singe marks. Use a heat gun or a hair dryer. A hair dryer works just fine. It's what I use.
post #2036 of 3539
Reading this thread reminds me of using (yep...probably going to verbally slay me here) 2 conductor blaze orange jacket bulk extension cord (12 gauge) for powering speakers. Fugly, but I never had a problem with it, and it always held up well. Buying bulk of that may be even less expensive, and jacketing will really help with the looks part of it. For me: I don't care. I'm not watching speaker cables..my eyes are on the picture tube (not LCD).

Now, to see speakers come out with speakon connectors, or perhaps I haven't seen that yet. Still, interesting thread smile.gif
post #2037 of 3539
^^^

hey, if it works, use it... smile.gif although i took a bit of heat for my purple ones... redface.gif

if you scroll down thru the thread a bit, you'll see some that i made with speakons... as well as power cords with powercons... smile.gif
post #2038 of 3539
you can use a simple lighter, and NO it doesnt leave marks.

A hair dryer takes too long to get hot enough, and some dont
post #2039 of 3539
a lighter left marks on heat shrink when it wasn't black for me. I guess I have a good hair dryer. It gets plenty hot, and shrinks the tbing quite quickly.
Edited by GlassWolf - 6/23/12 at 1:46pm
post #2040 of 3539
Anyone use the locking banana plugs straight from Blue Jeans Cable? They look nearly the same as the GLS Audio locking plugs, but without the logo:

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http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm

Not sure if the dimensions are the same but the price is also very similar.
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