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post #2131 of 3532
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

Do I need a heat gun for the wire pants or can I use a hair dryer?

Yes. The pants should not be heated. They don't shrink. An ordinary Bic lighter works for heat shrink tubing and even heating up a butter knife to cut TechFlex.

I have a little Bernzomatic Micro Torch that cost about $16 at Lowes or Home Depot. I wouldn't recommend this for extended use but it works great as a hot knife, light soldering iron, and heat shrink gun for quick work. It runs on butane which costs about $4 for a decent-sized can used to refill lighters and BBQ torches.
post #2132 of 3532
Subscribed.

Wow. Great thread. In the planning stages for my DIY wires. Will post pics when complete. For now will be connecting my new Klipsch RF7II's & RC64II to a marantz SR7007. Cant wait to get started.
post #2133 of 3532
Cable pants do not need heat. Cable pants are the shiny black "pants" that go over the ends of the cable and bare wires to add aesthetic appeal.

10mm cable pants work well on 12 gauge wiring. 9mm is ok for smaller wiring but will bulge very easy and look terrible. They are best purchased from parts express and you get a discount when you purchase in bulk.

Sleeving can be purchased from the USA from Barry but you get retail pricing because most of you guys don't buy in bulk. There is higher quality sleeving purchased from Germany. Hong Kong also has some noe stuff and different colors. ViAblue sleeving is nice but fragile.

Monoprice plugs are kinda get what you pay for and are inferior to the gls ones. Monoprice wiring is very good and I have used thousands of feet of it and never had a problem with it.
Edited by nezff - 12/27/12 at 6:33pm
post #2134 of 3532
I started using my first set of banana plugs ever which I purchased from monoprice. As I have nothing to compare them to, but they seem like great quality to me and I'm 100% satisfied with them after hooking up 3 of my speakers with 2 sets each.
post #2135 of 3532
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

... ViAblue sleeving is nice but fragile. ...

Fragile in what way?
post #2136 of 3532
So I've read through almost the entire thread and really like what I've seen. I was planning on building myself a pair of cables and then I came across a post where someone stated that if you don't intend on making this a hobby and/or you only plan on making a couple of cables then you are better off buying them. I priced out the parts for building two short cables using 12awg CL2 monoprice wire with Techflex, wire pants, and GLS Locking Banana plugs and it came to roughly $75. I have a cheap @$10 wire cutter/stripper I've had for years which might need replacing so that would be more money towards a nice pair. So what do you guys think? Would I be better off making my own or spending $75, maybe less, on two cables? I do like the idea of DIY.
post #2137 of 3532
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

So I've read through almost the entire thread and really like what I've seen. I was planning on building myself a pair of cables and then I came across a post where someone stated that if you don't intend on making this a hobby and/or you only plan on making a couple of cables then you are better off buying them. I priced out the parts for building two short cables using 12awg CL2 monoprice wire with Techflex, wire pants, and GLS Locking Banana plugs and it came to roughly $75. I have a cheap @$10 wire cutter/stripper I've had for years which might need replacing so that would be more money towards a nice pair. So what do you guys think? Would I be better off making my own or spending $75, maybe less, on two cables? I do like the idea of DIY.

For me. The cost wasn't as important as getting exactly what I wanted plus I was making 8 new cables for my 11.x setup. When you DIY, you can get the wire you want, the TechFlex you want, the terminations you want, and the length you need. Getting a pair of semi-custom cables at Blue Jeans Cable would cost you $70 for locking banana terminators, which look like the GLS ones on their site. They weld their cable to the terminator, so there is no easy way to get TechFlex over their cables. I also don't like their choice of wire. It all looks like thin-jacket PVC over wire with wire twists being visible. You could probably e-mail them with a special request though. The Dayton ones on Monoprice look pretty professional but they are only 14 AWG.

I have several pairs of wire strippers, and good ones too, but I STILL find myself getting out the old Exacto knife to cut the thick rubber sheath and do the wire ends while I'm at it. LOL
post #2138 of 3532
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

Fragile in what way?

I just want impressed with it. Dont get me wrong, its OK, but the material is made out of kind of a cloth and plastic weave.
post #2139 of 3532
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Originally Posted by jevans64 View Post

For me. The cost wasn't as important as getting exactly what I wanted plus I was making 8 new cables for my 11.x setup. When you DIY, you can get the wire you want, the TechFlex you want, the terminations you want, and the length you need. Getting a pair of semi-custom cables at Blue Jeans Cable would cost you $70 for locking banana terminators, which look like the GLS ones on their site. They weld their cable to the terminator, so there is no easy way to get TechFlex over their cables. I also don't like their choice of wire. It all looks like thin-jacket PVC over wire with wire twists being visible. You could probably e-mail them with a special request though. The Dayton ones on Monoprice look pretty professional but they are only 14 AWG.
I have several pairs of wire strippers, and good ones too, but I STILL find myself getting out the old Exacto knife to cut the thick rubber sheath and do the wire ends while I'm at it. LOL

I've seen several people mention that you should be able to build 2 shorter cables for $40-50, even $25, but I priced the ones I want to build at $70-75. The prices mentioned were from a little over a year ago, but I wouldn't think that prices inflated that much. I'm not sure the exact components those people used, or where exactly they got them, but it seems that most people use the same parts.
post #2140 of 3532
It cost me roughly $40 to build two 8 foot cables with GLS locking plugs. Less if you use nonlocking.
post #2141 of 3532
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

I like these two. Does furryletters carry these?

No, those are from hong kong.






Here are some cables that me and a buddy did for his theater with the sleeving from hong kong.


Edited by nezff - 12/29/12 at 6:24am
post #2142 of 3532
Just made this one a few days ago and I'll be finishing up my others today. Includes:

12awg In-Wall Monoprice
3/8" Black Techflex
1/2"-1/4" Heatshrink {over Techflex}
3/16"-3/32" Heatshrink {over 12awg}
Sewell Deadbolt Banana Plugs




post #2143 of 3532
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

Just made this one a few days ago and I'll be finishing up my others today. Includes:
12awg In-Wall Monoprice
3/8" Black Techflex
1/2"-1/4" Heatshrink {over Techflex}
3/16"-3/32" Heatshrink {over 12awg}
Sewell Deadbolt Banana Plugs

Congrats, this one looks pretty cool!
post #2144 of 3532
Has anyone order the 100FT roll from either of these guys on ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XSCORPION-EXPANDABLE-BRAIDED-3-8-x100-BLACK-WIRE-SLEEVING-TUBING-3-8-X-100-/170918253379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cb859343

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-EXPANDABLE-BRAIDED-PET-SLEEVING-BLACK-100-FT-ROLL-/350675162008?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item51a5de5398&vxp=mtr

I need to do 4 long runs between 40 to 55 feet in length, and they sell 100FT rolls for $25 dollars, but I am wondering if their quality is as good as FlexTech.
post #2145 of 3532
Thread Starter 
There is NO reason a pair of cables should cost you $75.00 to make. I am using 4x 10 gauge heavy shielded cable and it is $1.00 per foot....tech flex is cheap and so are banana plugs. I would think it should cost you around 25-35.00 to make these at most
post #2146 of 3532
Thread Starter 
I sure am happy to see this thread alive and kicking!!! You guys are making some awesome cables....keep up the great work!
post #2147 of 3532
Do they make the Pants heat shrinkable also? If they are just slip-on what keeps the braided sleeve from coming out of the bottom or "waist" of the Pant?
I really like this look and I am going to order some of the sleeve and pants. I want to make custom wire lengths to go from the back of the AVR to the 7.2 wall-plate on the wall of the rack closet.
I bought the 250 foot roll of 12g wire from monoprice http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=3844&seq=1&format=2

I also have the same bananas as Pure-Evil. (Hello Pure-Evil, its pretty cool to see a fellow Windsorite on a forum smile.gif )

What type of TechFlex sleeve do you guys normally use or recommend? I see on their website they have several different types, Flexo PET, Remix, Overexpanded, Tightweave, Cleancut and Flexo-F6, I dont think I want the Wrap style, they are cut down the sides, I'd rather have the slip on type.
Pure black is nice, maybe a different color in the weave is nice also, I dont like the flashy stuff I seen on Ebay, looks like rattlesnake skin, or neon colors. Anybody know somewhere in Canada you can order this flex sleeve for a decent price?
post #2148 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Do they make the Pants heat shrinkable also? If they are just slip-on what keeps the braided sleeve from coming out of the bottom or "waist" of the Pant?
I really like this look and I am going to order some of the sleeve and pants. I want to make custom wire lengths to go from the back of the AVR to the 7.2 wall-plate on the wall of the rack closet.
I bought the 250 foot roll of 12g wire from monoprice http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=3844&seq=1&format=2
I also have the same bananas as Pure-Evil. (Hello Pure-Evil, its pretty cool to see a fellow Windsorite on a forum smile.gif )
What type of TechFlex sleeve do you guys normally use or recommend? I see on their website they have several different types, Flexo PET, Remix, Overexpanded, Tightweave, Cleancut and Flexo-F6, I dont think I want the Wrap style, they are cut down the sides, I'd rather have the slip on type.
Pure black is nice, maybe a different color in the weave is nice also, I dont like the flashy stuff I seen on Ebay, looks like rattlesnake skin, or neon colors. Anybody know somewhere in Canada you can order this flex sleeve for a decent price?

I ordered the FlexTech from ebay. I ordered 25 FT, and I was able to do my front 3 speaker cables.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230411548533?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I am thinking of ordering this one from http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_38995_Xscorpion-ET38.1BK.html for 100FT roll is less than $25.00 dollars shipped, but I am not sure if they are the same quality as TechFlex. The only way to find out is for me to order it and try it out.
post #2149 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Pure-Evil View Post

I sure am happy to see this thread alive and kicking!!! You guys are making some awesome cables....keep up the great work!

You're alive--welcome back wink.gif
post #2150 of 3532
I am not a banana plug fan period. Easier is not always better, just easier. I noticed that the same wire, directly connected to speaker and amp terminals sounds better that the banana.
post #2151 of 3532
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I ordered the FlexTech from ebay. I ordered 25 FT, and I was able to do my front 3 speaker cables.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230411548533?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I am thinking of ordering this one from http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_38995_Xscorpion-ET38.1BK.html for 100FT roll is less than $25.00 dollars shipped, but I am not sure if they are the same quality as TechFlex. The only way to find out is for me to order it and try it out.

I checked out Furryletters ebay page, but I dont see just a normal 1/2' black sleeve, with red or blue stripes, he has some that are like a single strand of the braid is a different color, but I was hoping to have black with 3-4 strands colored. More like a stripe than just a single strand. Im going to keep looking, I want to have everything I need before I start wiring. I read a lot of the thread starting from the first page and answered some of my own questions. I would either use electrical tape around the end of the sleeve to help keep it inside the Pants, or just heat shrink a small piece around the "waist" of the pant. I can scoff heat shrink from work...ooops did I say that out loud? tongue.gif
post #2152 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Pure-Evil View Post

There is NO reason a pair of cables should cost you $75.00 to make. I am using 4x 10 gauge heavy shielded cable and it is $1.00 per foot....tech flex is cheap and so are banana plugs. I would think it should cost you around 25-35.00 to make these at most

Prices include shipping and taxes

*Monoprice 50 ft 12awg CL2 wire - $20
*25 ft Techflex - $10
*GLS Audio Locking Banana Plugs 8 pack - $30
*PE 10mm Wire Pants 10 Pcs - $10
*heat shrink 3:1 - $5

Total: $75
post #2153 of 3532
Great thread everybody.

I'm looking to make my own as well. Plan is:

12 AWG Monoprice In Wall
10mm Cable Pants (Parts Express)
3/8" TechFlex from Furryletters (eBay)
Amazon bannan plugs

I'd like to keep my order/sources down, so my question is what size diameter heat shrink do I need to get from Parts Express - 1/2"? I would assume 3/8" would be too small since it matches the TechFlex pre-shrink.
post #2154 of 3532
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You're alive--welcome back wink.gif

Thanks. I hardly come on this forum anymore....sorry but you can always PM me if you need to get a hold of me.
post #2155 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Superman07 View Post

I'd like to keep my order/sources down, so my question is what size diameter heat shrink do I need to get from Parts Express - 1/2"? I would assume 3/8" would be too small since it matches the TechFlex pre-shrink.

1/2" is good since most shrink wrap of that size will shrink to 1/4"

If you have a Harbor Freight Tools nearby, you can pick it up there. You can get both an assortment pack that has all different sizes or get a pack with a single size. They cost around $3.
post #2156 of 3532
1/2 inch is what I use on the ends for a finished look.
You can get rolls of it from AVoutlet
post #2157 of 3532
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

Prices include shipping and taxes
*Monoprice 50 ft 12awg CL2 wire - $20
*25 ft Techflex - $10
*GLS Audio Locking Banana Plugs 8 pack - $30
*PE 10mm Wire Pants 10 Pcs - $10
*heat shrink 3:1 - $5
Total: $75

So is this the cheapest I can get these parts for? Several people have suggested that you should be able to make a couple of cables for $30-40, but I don't see how, unless they are using monoprice banana plugs (or other less expensive plugs), which I don't want. If so then I will go ahead and place my orders.
post #2158 of 3532
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

So is this the cheapest I can get these parts for? Several people have suggested that you should be able to make a couple of cables for $30-40, but I don't see how, unless they are using monoprice banana plugs (or other less expensive plugs), which I don't want. If so then I will go ahead and place my orders.

check out Knukonceptz.com for cable pants

http://www.knukonceptz.com/searchResults.cfm#



These are $.99 each

as for the cable. If you go to an electrical contractor supplier (they will sell to the public) you can buy for around $1.00 per foot 4 x 10gauge heavy duty cable (600volt power cable) like I'm using now. It's 3/4" thick and absolutely stunning when finished! They are VERY heavy cables though...so get strong banana plugs for them!

I guess maybe it works out cheaper for me because I order stuff in bulk more. I normally order 200 ft of tech flex, about 50 pants, and cable by the hundreds of feet when I'm doing cables.
Edited by Pure-Evil - 1/2/13 at 7:04am
post #2159 of 3532
Is it easy, straightforward to cut a cable in half to make two equal length cables? With my current setup, where the AV rack is on the left I need a ~12 ft cable for the right speaker. I'm looking into getting an AV furniture stand that would hold all my components, which would make a longer cable unnecessary. I could then make two 6 ft cables, use one for the right speaker and save the other for if/when I get a center.
post #2160 of 3532
I can finally post in this thread! I've been wanting to build a set for a while and decided what the heck. I ordered everything from the usual suspects, save for the plugs. I went with the Nakamichi ones since they were more inline with my budget.

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