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post #2791 of 3537
Hey all

Any tips on how to insert the Techflex inside the cable pants!

I will be using some BJC Belden 10 gauge inside and have 11mm cable pants.
But and it is a Big But, will put a 11mm OD round cable (2 gauge welding cable) around the 2 Belden cables to make it round and not twisted just for a better look.

It would be thight, but more than likely can be done if it squeeze in.

Any thrick?

I did look for 12mm cable pants but not available at Parts Express.

Any sugestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


Ray
post #2792 of 3537
Forgot to mention

Mayby some heat shrink catching 1/2 of an inch on the Belden end and around 3/8 of an inch over the techflex and try to force it inside the cable pants for the 3/8 part.

What you guys think?

Thanks again


Ray
post #2793 of 3537
I use a piece of electrical tape to adhere the techflex to the speakerwire, then slip the cable pants over the techflex.
post #2794 of 3537
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I use a piece of electrical tape to adhere the techflex to the speakerwire, then slip the cable pants over the techflex.

Thanks

I like the idea, the electrical tape can be put tighter than heat shrink if you put your will to it.

How the Techflex stand to pull into somethingh that is too thight?

I think an another option is to cut some of the end of the sleeve (2 gauge welding) in little V to give it space to get smaller.

I_I_I Techflex fit here (welding cable sleeve cut)
IVIV Techflex (same as above)
I***I
I***I
I***I Outside sleeve from the welding cable (this where the cable pants would stop)
Actually under the IVIV

The above is my poor attend of a draying.

What you guys think is my best option?

Ray
Edited by darthray - 9/27/13 at 7:18pm
post #2795 of 3537
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Did you get these from the ebay guy? I went to the Nakamichi website, and I got a warning about the website not being secured to make a payment. So, I ended up not ordering from the website. It appears that the ones that are being sold on ebay are cheaper and of the same quality.

I have some of the Nakamichi sawtooth plugs. Replaced them with the Sewell deadbolt plugs which I think are much quicker to install and better quality.
http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadbolt-Banana-Plugs-12-Pair.asp


The Nakamichi's are now installed on my dad's system.

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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I have some of the Nakamichi sawtooth plugs. Replaced them with the Sewell deadbolt plugs which I think are much quicker to install and better quality.
http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadbolt-Banana-Plugs-12-Pair.asp


The Nakamichi's are now installed on my dad's system.

Those deadbolt look pretty nice. Do the speaker wire pant leg fit into them like the Nakamichi?

They fit my Belden 5T00UP, very tight but do fit with 11mm cable pants.

So far I did order 4 set of different banana plugs, but those sewell dead bolt might be my best option.
They fit tight (for my project), fit nice and tight in the speaker, look is not to bad and they were the cheapeat one (shipping from the states can be expensive).

Oh well, sometime you have to spend money to achieive what is best of what you can do.

At the end I just want my cable to look great.
Those Sewell fit nice with 10 gauge and might be the solution, if not, back to drawing table.

Ray
post #2796 of 3537
I should have everything ready in a week to start.

I read about 70 pages of the 94.

Any tip on how to cut the expendable Techflex.

I saw one about having a lighter ready to melt the end.
How about using a sharp blade or scissor and heat them up with a flame and if so how long?

Thanks in advance.

Ray
post #2797 of 3537
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Originally Posted by B&W_Elit3 View Post

Thanks, I hooked them up last night, sounds great!


Great! So, what is next for your? Power cords?
I hate you;)
Now you get me going too:)

Ray

I see my smilling faces are not coming up, so this was all in good humour.

Ray
post #2798 of 3537
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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

I hate you;)
Now you get me going too:)

Ray

I see my smilling faces are not coming up, so this was all in good humour.

Ray

LOL..............is all good Ray!

But don't go off topic.........where are the pics of your first power cords?

tongue.gif
post #2799 of 3537
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I hate you;)
Now you get me going too:)

Ray

I see my smilling faces are not coming up, so this was all in good humour.

Ray

LOL..............is all good Ray!

But don't go off topic.........where are the pics of your first power cords?

tongue.gif

I haven't done any!
Still working on the speaker cable, I meant next step is to do power cord one and just something to do.
For the speaker cable I got 4 set of different banana jacks on order and 3 different sleeve from Techflex and 2 differerent size of cable pants and 1 heatknife on the way to make sure I do the job right the first time.

But Hey, thanks for the reply.
By the way nice Subs, are they dual PB Ultra 13 like mine ?


Ray
post #2800 of 3537
Well, my first attempt at sleeving with a Monoprice cl2 14 awg speaker wire.
Techflex Carbon, KnuKonceptz 12 gauge cable pants and GLS Audio Locking Gen 4 Banana Clips.
Just 4 more cables to go...eek.gif
post #2801 of 3537
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Originally Posted by ski2slow View Post

Well, my first attempt at sleeving with a Monoprice cl2 14 awg speaker wire.
Techflex Carbon, KnuKonceptz 12 gauge cable pants and GLS Audio Locking Gen 4 Banana Clips.
Just 4 more cables to go...eek.gif

They look excellent. Good job.
post #2802 of 3537
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

They look excellent. Good job.

Thanks.
The first set of cable pants I ordered were too small and the Techflex would not fit so I had to reorder larger ones
post #2803 of 3537
Looks good.
post #2804 of 3537
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Originally Posted by ski2slow View Post

Well, my first attempt at sleeving with a Monoprice cl2 14 awg speaker wire.
Techflex Carbon, KnuKonceptz 12 gauge cable pants and GLS Audio Locking Gen 4 Banana Clips.
Just 4 more cables to go...eek.gif

I will add my vote to nice looking cable, for a first attend at it I would call perfect.

I am tring to achieve the same. but using BJC Belden 10 gauge cable and do not want the twisted look.
So far, I have over come the twisted look by using a 2 gauge welding cable.

The 3/8 Techflex is too tight, so I re-order some Carbon and Blue-Neon ones in 1/2 inch (will see wish one I like better).
Got,10 and 11mm cable pants.
The 11 work perfect.

My only problem is the Banana plugs.
So far I got,

GLS Wave Plug (too tight for my liking)
Madison Wave Plug (do not care for the look)
Sewell Dead Bolt (fit nice for the exception that I can not close the plug all the way)
BJC normal banana plug (again, do not care for the look).

The 10 gauge is giving me lots of headheach but if there is a will, there is a way.

I got 2 more set of Banana plugs on the way.
Sewell Maestro-pro and Silver Back.

If they do not work.
My last attend will be;

BJC locking type (I know they work but do not care of the tighing thing [just me])
GLS Banana one (more expensive but quality one)

So far I have spend a lot more on shipping than the price of the plugs them self.

Once I find something that work good, I will report with pictures (kind of a step by step) to hopefully help someone else that might venture in that direction to save them of this problems.

But this is a hobby, I do enjoy it and want to make it perferct for myself and try to help other just like so many other people help me before.


Ray
post #2805 of 3537
Awesome thread, inspired me to completely rewire my system. When I first wired my whole 7.2 setup I kind of half assed it, used scissors to cut the wires and didint effectively use my (monoprice) banana plugs & speaker wire. Time to do it the right way.

I have all of the proper materials, bought 25ft Canare 4S11 to bi-amp my front speakers, and 50ft of Belden 5000UE 12awg & GLS banana plugs to rewire my center/surrounds. Will post pics once its all done.

Quick question though, in the Ram Youtube Video he cuts the wires, then crimps them and finally inserts the banana plugs. Is this overkill? I bought all of the necessary materials but did not buy any crimps. I am tempted though because it looks pretty good that way. Any recommendations on this step? Has any one crimped their wires with the gold crimps before placing the banana plugs or did you just feed the bare wire into the plugs?

Thanks biggrin.gif
post #2806 of 3537
Crimping....never did that to mine. Then again I use different banana plugs. I use the Sewell Deadbolts. Now, I wish I had used spades for the speaker connection and banana plus for the AVR connections.
post #2807 of 3537
Doah...the 2 pieces of Techflex I had left weren't long enough for my rears.
Just ordered some more from Furryletters.
I guess they will have to wait until next week.
post #2808 of 3537
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I use a piece of electrical tape to adhere the techflex to the speakerwire, then slip the cable pants over the techflex.

Same here. Nicely done.
post #2809 of 3537
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

I use a piece of electrical tape to adhere the techflex to the speakerwire, then slip the cable pants over the techflex.

Same here. Nicely done.

My cable pants are very snug over the new shelding.
I intend to try the same method.

Does anyone know if the parts Exress cable Pants have a little bit of lee way?

Ray
post #2810 of 3537
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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Same here. Nicely done.

My cable pants are very snug over the new shelding.
I intend to try the same method.

Does anyone know if the parts Exress cable Pants have a little bit of lee way?

Ray

I use those. You've got to get the right size for sure. They can be pretty tight. I have done some surgery and cut off the legs to "skirt" it and use just heat shrink.







post #2811 of 3537
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Same here. Nicely done.

My cable pants are very snug over the new shelding.
I intend to try the same method.

Does anyone know if the parts Exress cable Pants have a little bit of lee way?

Ray

I use those. You've got to get the right size for sure. They can be pretty tight. I have done some surgery and cut off the legs to "skirt" it and use just heat shrink.








First, Thanks to take time to reply and add pictures.

Also i have to admit, I was wrong to order the1/2" techflex, the 3/8 fit just fine if you know how to feed right.
A few page back, feed it like a snake (push and pull and repeat), just writing this for the shy member who do not post but like to read can read from my mistakes.

For the cable pants, I can't find any 12mm, but maybe if the 11mm are warmed-up they can slip over.
If not, the only option might be to finish-it flush with the Techflex with heatshring but from what I see from the above pictures it might not forgive for the perfect look.

I just hope the tape trick work, it should if the techflex does not rip it self apart.

I will be posting wnen I got time to experience and my mistake if any more.
Right now I have to attend to my sick cat and 2 more grumpy due to a change of diet because of my big boy.

Keep posting pictures, I sure will, even if they only a few feet from going into the wall.

Ray
post #2812 of 3537
Right on Ray. I've only made 100' of cable but the more you work with it, the easier it becomes. You'll develop your own little shortcuts and strategies behold, you will have your masterpieces.
post #2813 of 3537
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Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC View Post

Right on Ray. I've only made 100' of cable but the more you work with it, the easier it becomes. You'll develop your own little shortcuts and strategies behold, you will have your masterpieces.

Thanks for the kind word!

I wanted to wait untill my project was done, but feel I should share many of my mistakes (lots of expensive ones, not the goods but shippng wise)!

I wanted a 10awg just for bragging rights, because for my max distance of 47ft, I think even 14 would be sufficient.
With the Belden 10awg in wall wire from BJC I had too many problems to find the banana plug that would suite me right and also did not like the twisted look.
So I tried to make my own outside sleeve to No good results.

So far I got 6 different type of banana plugs;
The one I like the best (for my project) are;
Sewell Dead Bolt http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadbolt-Banana-Plugs-6-Pair.asphttp://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadbolt-Banana-Plugs-6-Pair.asp
or
Sewell Premium-Banana-Plugs .http://www.amazon.ca/Sewell-Maestro-Banana-Connectors-Pairs-12/dp/B004CM4A58/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1381976950&sr=8-5&keywords=sewell+banana+plugs
It will all depend from my speaker wire wich one fit better inside the 10 or 11mm cable pants from PE (http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KL3-122-100 or http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2)

Both are on the way, just have to see wish one I like better.

and I also have 20ft of these coming ( those are going to be #4 &5 of different sleeving)
http://www.avoutlet.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=4415
and
http://www.avoutlet.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=5157

Wait and see wish one I like better (your opinions are more than welcome).

By the way, I did place 2 different order and they send me a refund as 1 shipping and not 2.

I will add my little expertize as time go but also wanted to share those sleeve from avoutlet as they look better quality with a higher price of course of your normal techflex.

Ray
Edited by darthray - 10/16/13 at 7:30pm
post #2814 of 3537
Well I got my cable from Knokoncept today.

So far it look like it is going to be that 12awg cable with the 10mm cable pants from PE and the Pro-Maestro plug for fit and snug.

I do prefer the look of the Maestro but do not care about a single little screw to hold the wire (maybe fold and twiste might do the trick).
Realy like your opinion on this one!
Twist and fold or fold twist!
I would more than welcome anyone with some experience since I did so many mystake so far.

A few more days and I should have those new sleeve.
Any opinion of wish one you prefer (see above post for the new sleeve).

Ray
Edited by darthray - 10/16/13 at 8:13pm
post #2815 of 3537
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Originally Posted by darthray View Post

Realy like your opinion on this one!
Twist and fold or fold twist!
I would more than welcome anyone with some experience since I did so many mystake so far.



Ray

I always twist and fold
post #2816 of 3537
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

You are looking for vinyl heat shrink? Are you looking for 3/8 techflex?

Soory for teh vauge request.. I ordered teh Tech Flex from teh Ebay vendor.. Black with the Red line.. will go perfect for my HT room black /Red combo smile.gif 3/8 size as I read here before

I have the GLS Audio lock banana plugs

I need the pant sleeve for my monoprice 12 gauge cable.. I would like the parts express part number..

Also how do you get the pant on top of teh tech flex without spliting the tech flex.. also I'm new , a link of a hot knife if possible.. do you use shrink wrap on the wires.. can I use a hair dryer for teh heat shrink or will I need to buy a heat gun?
post #2817 of 3537
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Originally Posted by DrZaus View Post

Also how do you get the pant on top of teh tech flex without spliting the tech flex.. also I'm new , a link of a hot knife if possible.. do you use shrink wrap on the wires.. can I use a hair dryer for teh heat shrink or will I need to buy a heat gun?

Electrical tape and a lighter works just as good.
post #2818 of 3537
I see some people prefer to use spades to connect to the speaker terminals? What is the main reasoning for this, a more secure connection?
post #2819 of 3537

Sa-Weet job on your DIY Cables.

I congratulate you on a fine looking professional set of speaker cables.

 

It's so awesome when one takes on a DIY project, whatever it is! Once completed, there's no other satisfaction/proud feeling than when you first install them and turn on your system.

 

Wish I knew how to post photos on this site, I'm new to this.

I also built a pair of my own speaker cables and couldn't have been more proud of that cable.

I used to show them to my friends, non-audio folks, and would get a nice comment but, they really didn't relate, but hat's ok...

 

I built a pair for one my friends, he was a beginning Audiophile, exactly like my pair. They were for his new pair of Triangle Speakers. Obviously when I presented them to him, on his birthday, with a case having a plaque made with his name, date and built by, needless to say he was overwhelmed & appreciative. Knowing the time and effort that went into that rather than just going to a store and buying him some cables. I was so proud to give them to him.

 

The next DIY challenge I've been thinking of is building my own Power Cables. We'll see.

One can build an awesome power cable that will match or exceed what you can buy on the market. And actually make a better set with some upgraded/higher-end plug ends.

 

Again, congratulations on the awesome looking cables. You should be very proud.

 

Skip

post #2820 of 3537
Wiw, Nice gift, Skip. Can I be your friend?????

I agree about the satisfaction of building you own gear. I am in the process of building some subwoofers.
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