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post #91 of 260
So, Manni, if I install Catalyst 1210, and then install the 1010e hotfix over it, PowerDVD 10 will allow hardware acceleration for the Radeon 5670? (I don't know how I overlooked your post earlier in this thread, but I did.) I'm trying to get 3D working on my sister's PC, for her Mits DLP rear pro.

BTW, my RS40 has shipped from AVS.
post #92 of 260
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I haven't upgraded lately, but the last versions couldn't handle DVD iso's in PowerDVD, although I read that it handles them in TMT. DVD folders were supposed to work in PDVD. I'm getting TMT, but I have no experience with it yet.

I'm using version 3.10 and it works with pdvd and dvd iso's. Im sure the latest versions of mymovies should support it.
post #93 of 260
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

So, Manni, if I install Catalyst 1210, and then install the 1010e hotfix over it, PowerDVD 10 will allow hardware acceleration for the Radeon 5670? (I don't know how I overlooked your post earlier in this thread, but I did.) I'm trying to get 3D working on my sister's PC, for her Mits DLP rear pro.

BTW, my RS40 has shipped from AVS.

Joe, are you going to attempt HD audio + 3D bluray from the 5670? I thought the same problems I had with the 5450 would be the same across the entire 5xxxx series.

great news that your projector shipped!

btw, it looks like a moderator changed the title of the thread, but I have no idea why. The issue is with the JVC, not the Sony.
post #94 of 260
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Joe, are you going to attempt HD audio + 3D bluray from the 5670? I thought the same problems I had with the 5450 would be the same across the entire 5xxxx series.

great news that your projector shipped!

btw, it looks like a moderator changed the title of the thread, but I have no idea why. The issue is with the JVC, not the Sony.

For my sister, no. Regular DD or DTS would be OK for now. She doesn't have an HDMI receiver (though I'm probably going to give her one of mine after my upgrades are complete). Right now, the problem is that I can't get hardware accelerated 3D Blu-ray playback. It works fine for regular Blu-ray, but when I try to play a 3D iso HA is disabled and her dual core CPU doesn't have the power to play smoothly. I monitor both CPUs pegging at 100%, and the video stutters. I think I remember reading that 3D Blu-ray playback was disabled in later AMD drivers for the 5xxx series cards, after 10.10e. I'm going to install the older drivers tomorrow and see if that allows HA. If not, I'll try the TMT5 trial.
post #95 of 260
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

For my sister, no. Regular DD or DTS would be OK for now. She doesn't have an HDMI receiver (though I'm probably going to give her one of mine after my upgrades are complete). Right now, the problem is that I can't get hardware accelerated 3D Blu-ray playback. It works fine for regular Blu-ray, but when I try to play a 3D iso HA is disabled and her dual core CPU doesn't have the power to play smoothly. I monitor both CPUs pegging at 100%, and the video stutters. I think I remember reading that 3D Blu-ray playback was disabled in later AMD drivers for the 5xxx series cards, after 10.10e. I'm going to install the older drivers tomorrow and see if that allows HA. If not, I'll try the TMT5 trial.

hmm, I went through 10.10, 10.10e, 10.11 and 10.12 with the 5450 and it seems like HW acceleration was working. I never had any issues with 3D BD playback in PDVD10 or TMT5, it was only when I enabled HD audio did the sound start dropping off.

This was a i5 quad core Intel box, so I am wondering if I did have an issue as well but the CPU was handling the playback.

The CPU usage during playback via the GT430 is quite a bit less than it was with the 5450 (~45 % if I recall correctly)
post #96 of 260
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

hmm, I went through 10.10, 10.10e, 10.11 and 10.12 with the 5450 and it seems like HW acceleration was working. I never had any issues with 3D BD playback in PDVD10 or TMT5, it was only when I enabled HD audio did the sound start dropping off.

This was a i5 quad core Intel box, so I am wondering if I did have an issue as well but the CPU was handling the playback.

The CPU usage during playback via the GT430 is quite a bit less than it was with the 5450 (~45 % if I recall correctly)

That's probably what was happening. My everyday PC is a Core i5, and it has the power to do the decoding (even with an older Radeon 4850 - with checkerboard output). Arcsoft's site lists the 5xxx series cards as having hardware accelerated decoding of 3D Blu-ray with TMT5. I'm going to try the 10.10e hotfix with the 5670 tomorrow, and if that doesn't work, I'll give the TMT5 trial a shot. If it's still no go, I'll get her an nVidia 430.
post #97 of 260
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

So, Manni, if I install Catalyst 1210, and then install the 1010e hotfix over it, PowerDVD 10 will allow hardware acceleration for the Radeon 5670? (I don't know how I overlooked your post earlier in this thread, but I did.) I'm trying to get 3D working on my sister's PC, for her Mits DLP rear pro.

BTW, my RS40 has shipped from AVS.

Hi Joe,

If 10.10 or older are installed, 10.10e should install over without the need to install 12.10.

I only needed to install 12.10 and then 10.10e because I had used driver sweeper when trying to downgrade from 12.10 and something was missing.

At the moment, 10.10e is the best driver for an ATI card if you're using PDVD10.

However, if you're using TMT5, you can now upgrade to 12.10 and TMT build 86, which gives you a much better playback than the initial release, which still had a few quirks.

I also noticed that in order to get my JVC (through the Denon 3311) to switch properly to 24p (FP), I had to switch my Dell monitor off (it's cloned to the JVC).

Finally, PDVD10 was unable to switch automatically to 24P(FP), so I'm obviously using TMT5.

Here is my apparently working config, waiting to fully confirm when I get the emitter today:

AMD Sapphire 6870
Win7 64bits
ATI Catalyst 12.10 (not the preview with the new catalyst)
JVC X7 on HDMI to Denon 3111 HDMI in (game)
Denon 3311 HDMI1 out to JVC X7 HDMI1 in
TMT5 5.0.1.86 (released on the 01/5/11)
AnyDVD HD (latest) for auto refresh rate and region free playing of my backup rips
Virtual Clonedrive (latest) for automount of BD/DVD ISOs
MyMovies 3.18 for collection management and full WMC integration

With this, I get automount of BD/DVD ISO, auto switch to 24p(FP) when playing a 3DBD, autoswitch to 24p, 50p or 60p when playing a 2D bluray or PAL/SECAM DVD, and bitstreaming of HD Audio.

It also switches back to 60p automatically if I want to play a game (I just have to quit MCE and eject the last disc played/mounted).
post #98 of 260
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post


I currently use a popcorn hour C200 for my 2D content, mainly MKV's and M2TS rips from my BD collection. I want to get away from the PCH C200 completely (the firmware has been bug ridden since it's release) and go exclusively with the MCE7 system.

I have not tried to watch video through a PC in many years, but wouldn't you still have problems with random frame drops/skips compared to a dedicated player? The problems is that PC's are really not suitable for video/audio playback due to the fact that there is no hardware-level synchronization of video and audio clocks. Eventually (maybe several seconds or several minutes) the clocks drift apart and you either get a dropped or repeated audio/video frame. This sort of thing drives me crazy and it's why I only watch video through dedicated STB. To see the issue, watch something with a long panning/scrolling sequence like a news ticker or credits.

Then there's the issue that no PC can correctly pass interlaced content without deinterlacing it first - sucks if have a CRT or external video processor with better deinterlacing than your video card offers.

-Mark
post #99 of 260
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Originally Posted by Wizziwig View Post

I have not tried to watch video through a PC in many years, but wouldn't you still have problems with random frame drops/skips compared to a dedicated player? The problems is that PC's are really not suitable for video/audio playback due to the fact that there is no hardware-level synchronization of video and audio clocks.

That's what Reclock is for. Furthermore, if you carefully create custom resolutions through the NVidia control panel (or via PowerStrip), you can match video and audio clocks so well that you'll get smooth playback for hours without a single frame drop/repeat, even when not using Reclock.

A properly configured HTPC can produce totally smooth playback with no frame drops/repeat.

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Originally Posted by Wizziwig View Post

Then there's the issue that no PC can correctly pass interlaced content without deinterlacing it first - sucks if have a CRT or external video processor with better deinterlacing than your video card offers.

True, interlaced output is a bit of a problem. However, I *think* if you use simple weave, it might work just fine. But I'm not sure. At least there are several guys driving their CRT with my madVR HTPC video renderer and they seem to be pretty happy with interlaced output and smooth playback at high refresh rates.
post #100 of 260
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Originally Posted by arca View Post

I'm beginning to get the urge to upgrade to RS40, but besides 3D BD, I'd like it to work for PC games as well (I'm hooked on StarCraft II). Could someone enlighten me, does all this good news mean that RS40 + JVC or Xpand glasses will work in PC games as well?

Greetings arca. Glad to see you posting again.
post #101 of 260
Just to confirm that everything worked first time as soon as I plugged the emitter in. 24p(FP) detected by TMT5 (build .86), and HD Audio bitstreamed. I played about an hour of demo clips, mostly from the panasonic demo disc, and the first 20mn of Bolt 3D, not one audio/video drop.

So that's a success!

Very impressed, especially by the Avatar clip, I'm looking forward to watching a first full 3D movie tonight.
post #102 of 260
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Originally Posted by Manni01 View Post

Hi Joe,

If 10.10 or older are installed, 10.10e should install over without the need to install 12.10.

I only needed to install 12.10 and then 10.10e because I had used driver sweeper when trying to downgrade from 12.10 and something was missing.

At the moment, 10.10e is the best driver for an ATI card if you're using PDVD10.

However, if you're using TMT5, you can now upgrade to 12.10 and TMT build 86, which gives you a much better playback than the initial release, which still had a few quirks.

I also noticed that in order to get my JVC (through the Denon 3311) to switch properly to 24p (FP), I had to switch my Dell monitor off (it's cloned to the JVC).

Finally, PDVD10 was unable to switch automatically to 24P(FP), so I'm obviously using TMT5.

Here is my apparently working config, waiting to fully confirm when I get the emitter today:

AMD Sapphire 6870
Win7 64bits
ATI Catalyst 12.10 (not the preview with the new catalyst)
JVC X7 on HDMI to Denon 3111 HDMI in (game)
Denon 3311 HDMI1 out to JVC X7 HDMI1 in
TMT5 5.0.1.86 (released on the 01/5/11)
AnyDVD HD (latest) for auto refresh rate and region free playing of my backup rips
Virtual Clonedrive (latest) for automount of BD/DVD ISOs
MyMovies 3.18 for collection management and full WMC integration

With this, I get automount of BD/DVD ISO, auto switch to 24p(FP) when playing a 3DBD, autoswitch to 24p, 50p or 60p when playing a 2D bluray or PAL/SECAM DVD, and bitstreaming of HD Audio.

It also switches back to 60p automatically if I want to play a game (I just have to quit MCE and eject the last disc played/mounted).

Thanks, Manni. Arcsoft has the 5xxx series listed as working with hardware acceleration, so that'll be my goto solution if the older catalyst driver/hotfix driver doesn't work with PDVD.
post #103 of 260
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Wizziwig View Post

I have not tried to watch video through a PC in many years, but wouldn't you still have problems with random frame drops/skips compared to a dedicated player? The problems is that PC's are really not suitable for video/audio playback due to the fact that there is no hardware-level synchronization of video and audio clocks. Eventually (maybe several seconds or several minutes) the clocks drift apart and you either get a dropped or repeated audio/video frame. This sort of thing drives me crazy and it's why I only watch video through dedicated STB. To see the issue, watch something with a long panning/scrolling sequence like a news ticker or credits.

Then there's the issue that no PC can correctly pass interlaced content without deinterlacing it first - sucks if have a CRT or external video processor with better deinterlacing than your video card offers.

-Mark

I've been trying for a few years to replace my PCH-A110 and now the C200 with an HTPC. My latest setup has me impressed in a number of different ways. I use MCE7 with the Ceton quad tuner using a cable card on Verizon FIOS. The HD IQ is excellent on the RS40 and video playback is perfectly smooth. i can watch the CNN news ticker, and it's smooth as butter during viewing, it doesn't skip a beat.

I've also run countless hours of playing back BD iso's and 3D BD iso's through either TMT5 or PowerDVD10 on my Acer 5360 3D DLP and now my RS40. No skips, judder, etc. The IQ and playback is on par with the quality of PCH-C200 and my standalone Samsung 7900.

I wanted one place to access all my MKV's, M2TS and BD ISO's. it would be ideal if the my movies plugin also worked with MKV's and M2TS files, but i'm sure i'll find something to use. The graphics card is the Nvidia GT430.
post #104 of 260
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Thanks, Manni. Arcsoft has the 5xxx series listed as working with hardware acceleration, so that'll be my goto solution if the older catalyst driver/hotfix driver doesn't work with PDVD.

Just to clarify, you don't expect the 5xxx to work with 3D, just 2D right? I moved to the 6xxx series to get HDMI 1.4a compatibility, and it worked out fine, but I have no idea whether it would work or not with the 5xxx, especially if you want 3D+HD audio. I guess I'm a bit confused between the two configs you are setting up at the moment...

I personally wouldn't expect 3DBD with frame packed to work on a 5xxxx series, especially with HD audio. Checkerboard, possibly.

Also I didn't manage to get PDVD10 to detect 3DBD and to switch automatically to 24p(FP), but TMT5 (.86) does it fine.
post #105 of 260
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Originally Posted by mariner888 View Post

Greetings arca. Glad to see you posting again.

Thanks, yes, I've been busy with my HX2 for a few years. I just bought my sixth lamp.
post #106 of 260
I'm waiting on delivery of my RS40 and I really don't want to upgrade my 1.3 receiver. I have 3 GTX 480s in my HTPC, Wonder if I can do HDMI video out to projector on one card and HDMI HD audio out to receiver on another card...

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Originally Posted by arca View Post

I'm beginning to get the urge to upgrade to RS40, but besides 3D BD, I'd like it to work for PC games as well (I'm hooked on StarCraft II). Could someone enlighten me, does all this good news mean that RS40 + JVC or Xpand glasses will work in PC games as well?

This is precisely what the newly released 3D TV Play is supposed to do; enable Nvidia 3D Vision functionality for third-party (non-Nvidia) 3D setups.
post #107 of 260
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Originally Posted by Manni01 View Post

Just to clarify, you don't expect the 5xxx to work with 3D, just 2D right? I moved to the 6xxx series to get HDMI 1.4a compatibility, and it worked out fine, but I have no idea whether it would work or not with the 5xxx, especially if you want 3D+HD audio. I guess I'm a bit confused between the two configs you are setting up at the moment...

I personally wouldn't expect 3DBD with frame packed to work on a 5xxxx series, especially with HD audio. Checkerboard, possibly.

Also I didn't manage to get PDVD10 to detect 3DBD and to switch automatically to 24p(FP), but TMT5 (.86) does it fine.

What I want to do now is get my sister's Mitsubishi DLP rear projector working with 3D - so I need checkerboard output, no HD audio. Hers is not an HDMI receiver. Getting checkerboard output is not a problem, but there's no hardware acceleration for 3D Blu-ray. It works fine for regular Blu-ray but it's immediately disabled when a 3D disc starts. So, she gets fairly smooth playback in scenes with not a lot of motion, but with fast action the CPU can't keep up. I haven't tried manually forcing 24p, though, so I should do that. However, I'm pretty sure I came across something on one of the AMD forums about 3D being disabled for the 5xxx series cards in the AMD drivers past a certain release (10.10e, I think). Unfortunately, I wasn't really concerned about it at the time and I can't locate the article. IIRC, people were upset that AMD disabled 3D playback, because they were getting HA on their 5xxx cards until then. I would think that since she doesn't need 24p FP output, checkerboard shouldn't be a problem even for a low end 5xxx card. My quad-core Core i5 can do it without any help from the video card at all, though the CPU usage is fairly high.
post #108 of 260
do you know if it can be the same for 6950 ATI cards?

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Originally Posted by Manni01 View Post

At the moment, 10.10e is the best driver for an ATI card if you're using PDVD10.

However, if you're using TMT5, you can now upgrade to 12.10 and TMT build 86, which gives you a much better playback than the initial release, which still had a few quirks.

I also noticed that in order to get my JVC (through the Denon 3311) to switch properly to 24p (FP), I had to switch my Dell monitor off (it's cloned to the JVC).

Here is my apparently working config, waiting to fully confirm when I get the emitter today:

AMD Sapphire 6870
Win7 64bits
ATI Catalyst 12.10 (not the preview with the new catalyst)
JVC X7 on HDMI to Denon 3111 HDMI in (game)
Denon 3311 HDMI1 out to JVC X7 HDMI1 in
TMT5 5.0.1.86 (released on the 01/5/11)
AnyDVD HD (latest) for auto refresh rate and region free playing of my backup rips
Virtual Clonedrive (latest) for automount of BD/DVD ISOs
MyMovies 3.18 for collection management and full WMC integration

With this, I get automount of BD/DVD ISO, auto switch to 24p(FP) when playing a 3DBD, autoswitch to 24p, 50p or 60p when playing a 2D bluray or PAL/SECAM DVD, and bitstreaming of HD Audio.

It also switches back to 60p automatically if I want to play a game (I just have to quit MCE and eject the last disc played/mounted).
post #109 of 260
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Originally Posted by xp3nd4bl3 View Post

I'm waiting on delivery of my RS40 and I really don't want to upgrade my 1.3 receiver. I have 3 GTX 480s in my HTPC, Wonder if I can do HDMI video out to projector on one card and HDMI HD audio out to receiver on another card...

I have the same question for my future Crossfire of 2 ATI 6950
post #110 of 260
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Originally Posted by lebloganthrope View Post

do you know if it can be the same for 6950 ATI cards?

It should be as they share the same drivers AFAIK.
post #111 of 260
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

What I want to do now is get my sister's Mitsubishi DLP rear projector working with 3D - so I need checkerboard output, no HD audio. Hers is not an HDMI receiver. Getting checkerboard output is not a problem, but there's no hardware acceleration for 3D Blu-ray. It works fine for regular Blu-ray but it's immediately disabled when a 3D disc starts. So, she gets fairly smooth playback in scenes with not a lot of motion, but with fast action the CPU can't keep up. I haven't tried manually forcing 24p, though, so I should do that. However, I'm pretty sure I came across something on one of the AMD forums about 3D being disabled for the 5xxx series cards in the AMD drivers past a certain release (10.10e, I think). Unfortunately, I wasn't really concerned about it at the time and I can't locate the article. IIRC, people were upset that AMD disabled 3D playback, because they were getting HA on their 5xxx cards until then. I would think that since she doesn't need 24p FP output, checkerboard shouldn't be a problem even for a low end 5xxx card. My quad-core Core i5 can do it without any help from the video card at all, though the CPU usage is fairly high.

I think it is mandatory to switch to 24p for 3DBD to work, at least in frame packing (it doesn't work at 60p). Not sure about checkerboard, but it's worth a try. I use AnyDVDHD to do this automatically when the BD/ISO is loaded (using the external program options in the settings).
post #112 of 260
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Originally Posted by Manni01 View Post

I think it is mandatory to switch to 24p for 3DBD to work, at least in frame packing (it doesn't work at 60p). Not sure about checkerboard, but it's worth a try. I use AnyDVDHD to do this automatically when the BD/ISO is loaded (using the external program options in the settings).

Now that I think about it, 3D output to a Mits rear pro needs to be 60hz.

I can't use auto resolution change in AnyDVD HD. My main computer monitor (a 32" Sharp LCD) can't accept 24p input and blanks. But it'll be time to switch that out soon, anyway. It's HDMI circuitry is going all wonky. I have to plug the HDMI cable in and out sometimes to get it to recognize a source change from my HDMI matrix switch. Neither my projector nor the Samsung 3D TV connected to the same switch has that problem.

I have to smile when I think about how my sister is reacting to 3D - even as broken as it is on her set right now. Even with stuttering playback yesterday, she was engrossed in Avatar. She also had a friend over, and she sat down to watch with the warning that she knew she wouldn't be able to sit still for very long. The only reason she got up was the problems we were having with playback. Otherwise, I think she might have sat there for the whole 2 1/2 hours. They were both transfixed by the 3D.
post #113 of 260
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by xp3nd4bl3 View Post

I'm waiting on delivery of my RS40 and I really don't want to upgrade my 1.3 receiver. I have 3 GTX 480s in my HTPC, Wonder if I can do HDMI video out to projector on one card and HDMI HD audio out to receiver on another card...



curious to hear how this works for you, but I would imagine you could use 1 card the same way I am using the GT430. HDMI -> RS40 and DVI->HDMI Adapter -> 1.3 AVR.,

This works with both PDVD10 and TMT5, 3D BD playback and HD audio as well.



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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I have to smile when I think about how my sister is reacting to 3D - even as broken as it is on her set right now. Even with stuttering playback yesterday, she was engrossed in Avatar. She also had a friend over, and she sat down to watch with the warning that she knew she wouldn't be able to sit still for very long. The only reason she got up was the problems we were having with playback. Otherwise, I think she might have sat there for the whole 2 1/2 hours. They were both transfixed by the 3D.

ease her pain with the cheapie $79 ASUS GT430 card. I have a second one on the way for a different system I might use for 3D BD playback.
post #114 of 260
I can report that I got an ATI 5950 card to send framesequential 1080p24 ok to RS40 (I tried IZ3D driver for frame-sequencial (uses quadbuffer) ).. and it works ok. Also tried some Side-By-sides etc. and it also works alright :-)

Downloaded a trial of TMT5 a few days ago and it was a piece of c-p.. crashed constantly when ANYTHING was tried to play. (My PC has Win 7 /64). I looked up some support forums etc that this may be due to "protective" code not allowing antivirus programs etc to coexist with the TMT5.. I deinstalled.. TMT, first impression not good.. not good at all.. will try Cyberlink. I am still not sure if there is any ral need to upgrade to 68xx, 69xx AMD or a 5xx Nvidia.

/T
post #115 of 260
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Originally Posted by madshi View Post

That's what Reclock is for. Furthermore, if you carefully create custom resolutions through the NVidia control panel (or via PowerStrip), you can match video and audio clocks so well that you'll get smooth playback for hours without a single frame drop/repeat, even when not using Reclock.

A properly configured HTPC can produce totally smooth playback with no frame drops/repeat.


True, interlaced output is a bit of a problem. However, I *think* if you use simple weave, it might work just fine. But I'm not sure. At least there are several guys driving their CRT with my madVR HTPC video renderer and they seem to be pretty happy with interlaced output and smooth playback at high refresh rates.

Well, what happens is that you get a deinterlaced 1080p image that is then re-interlaced back to 1080i. Weave will not work reliably because there is no mechanism in windows to display a specific frame on a specific odd/even field. If you get unlucky, the fields end up displayed in the incorrect temporal order and you see ghosting. It's easier to just deinterlace first and live with the reduced quality on CRT. At least this is based on my experiments that I ran a few years ago (granted this was before Vista EVR, etc.).

Never tried Reclock or custom resolutions. I'm not even sure all cards support perfect custom timing - I recall the Intel ones could not do 23.976 for example. It just didn't seem like it's worth the hassle when you can pick up a cheap WDTV or similar player for $50 and instantly get correct results.

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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I've been trying for a few years to replace my PCH-A110 and now the C200 with an HTPC. My latest setup has me impressed in a number of different ways. I use MCE7 with the Ceton quad tuner using a cable card on Verizon FIOS. The HD IQ is excellent on the RS40 and video playback is perfectly smooth. i can watch the CNN news ticker, and it's smooth as butter during viewing, it doesn't skip a beat.

I've also run countless hours of playing back BD iso's and 3D BD iso's through either TMT5 or PowerDVD10 on my Acer 5360 3D DLP and now my RS40. No skips, judder, etc. The IQ and playback is on par with the quality of PCH-C200 and my standalone Samsung 7900.

I wanted one place to access all my MKV's, M2TS and BD ISO's. it would be ideal if the my movies plugin also worked with MKV's and M2TS files, but i'm sure i'll find something to use. The graphics card is the Nvidia GT430.

Sounds promising. Maybe I'll give HTPC another go when I have some time. I've got a spare Q6600 with Nvidia 250GTS. Hopefully that's enough for the smooth 2D playback you're seeing.

For now, I'm using a popcorn A100 with a custom player I wrote myself. I also have a C200 but agree it's a buggy device that I rarely use.
post #116 of 260
Hey,

I wish you guys luck but since you have a 3D capable projector why not solve the problem by just picking up a 3D Blu Ray player?

I know a lot of HTPC users are in it for the pirate aspect so I can't offer any suggestions there because I'm not into that. If you're trying to play real 3D blu rays though seems easy enough to just pick up a $200 or less player and presto... no problem.

-Brian
post #117 of 260
@Brian, so basically you have nothing helpful to say other than implying that most of us are criminals? Great comment! Please go away.



I'll report your post to the mods.
post #118 of 260
Hi,

Please report it if it's offensive. I am learning about 3D and I am very interested in it. I just think that if you have a 3D capable display already you should be able to plug in a 3D blu ray player and everything is going to work directly.

I was a HTPC user in 1999 and can still see some advantages to it. I don't "depend" on a HTPC solution but then I don't see the need or have any desire to rip content either. I guess if you don't copy movies (which is illegal) I can't imagine why you need or want a HTPC anymore.

I think there are maybe 20 3D Blu Rays maybe more. Even if I had the "need" to have all my movies on hard drive (even though it's illegal) I could live with using alternate hardware for viewing 20 movies.

If I was offending it's just mis-understanding. I apologize.

I know the S570 for example can be had for $150 and if I was "stuck" trying to get 3D onto a 3D display that I went to the trouble to buy that would be my first solution.

-Brian

edit- To further clarify... I can see 1 use of a HTPC for 3D blu rays and that's to playback on non 3D displays. Seems PowerDVD and other software can do things like output anaglyph versions from proper 3D blus and that I find very interesteing and exciting (even if it's not ideal). If I was ready with a fully 3D capable display I would not have use for HTPC solutions.
post #119 of 260
For me, the HTPC solution will be used only for fullHD gaming and I will buy a BD player (certainly the Sony 570) for movies
post #120 of 260
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

Hey,

I wish you guys luck but since you have a 3D capable projector why not solve the problem by just picking up a 3D Blu Ray player?

I know a lot of HTPC users are in it for the pirate aspect so I can't offer any suggestions there because I'm not into that. If you're trying to play real 3D blu rays though seems easy enough to just pick up a $200 or less player and presto... no problem.

-Brian

this is definitely off-topic accusing HTPC users of being pirates and a bit un-called for, this is a specific thread about a graphics card driver issue with a JVC projector.

Why not just get a $200 BD player? the answer is easy. I have 100's of movies on bluray. I want instant, random access to my library in any room of my house without worrying about damaging my expensive BD collection. I don't want kids, guests, etc touching my disks.

With the HTPC / Popcorn Hour C200, I have access to my entire library in any room of the house. A single BD player compared to my setup feels like going back to 1999.

also, please keep the morals of ripping to another thread. absurd that some lawyer for a media company decides what I get to do with a disk I paid $40 for.
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