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Originally Posted by jacket_fan View Post

The only thing that should be on the SDD is Windows per your guide. But since I can't boot, I do not know what is on it now. I would like to think it is still only windows. Maybe I should have put it on one of the hard drives

What else can I do to trouble shoot?

Plug it into another computer and take a look at whats on the drive.
post #11762 of 15901
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Did you clone an old os onto the ssd or do a fresh install?
post #11763 of 15901
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Originally Posted by jabberbox View Post

assassin, thank you for the awesome guide..I will be buying the paid guides very shortly. Here's my planned build..how does it look?

Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H67M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($93.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Silverstone GD05B HTPC Case ($88.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($35 (After Rebate) @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $470.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-03-10 18:30 EST-0500)

Or for mobo I was considering the Intel DH67BLB3 Micro ATX which can be had for 89.99 at the moment. Also, does that Power Supply look okay? Pretty good deal where it's $35 after mail-in-rebate. Thanks for the feedback.

Not sure if you forgot or not, but you don't have a HDD listed, only an SSD.
post #11764 of 15901
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Originally Posted by vidikron25 View Post

Not sure if you forgot or not, but you don't have a HDD listed, only an SSD.

Its possible that he is using a NAS or Server. Or maybe already has a hard drive or external hard drive that he is using.

But otherwise I agree that storage is needed.
post #11765 of 15901
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Originally Posted by jabberbox View Post

assassin, thank you for the awesome guide..I will be buying the paid guides very shortly. Here's my planned build..how does it look?

Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H67M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($93.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Silverstone GD05B HTPC Case ($88.00 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($35 (After Rebate) @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $470.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-03-10 18:30 EST-0500)

Or for mobo I was considering the Intel DH67BLB3 Micro ATX which can be had for 89.99 at the moment. Also, does that Power Supply look okay? Pretty good deal where it's $35 after mail-in-rebate. Thanks for the feedback.

You should consider the ASRock Z68M/USB3 motherboard. Only $85 and you get a Z68 north bridge. It is one of the recommended boards on the first page.

Tiger direct has the Crucial M4 for $80 with free shipping
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...474&CatId=5300
post #11766 of 15901
Assassin
Bought your guides on Friday. Can't seem to view them though. I did make a logon on the blog site and I am logged in but no matter what link I click, it takes me to the paid guide content page.
Very frustrating.
Any idea what's going on?
It's doing this in Firefox and IE both...
post #11767 of 15901
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Originally Posted by mwg47x View Post

Assassin
Bought your guides on Friday. Can't seem to view them though. I did make a logon on the blog site and I am logged in but no matter what link I click, it takes me to the paid guide content page.
Very frustrating.
Any idea what's going on?
It's doing this in Firefox and IE both...

Fixed an incorrect setting in your account.

Try it again.

And thanks for using them!
post #11768 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Wilky13 View Post

All automatic.

@ Assassin,

I'd like to rewrite Guide #35 for you, now that MCEBuddy 2.1.4 is out. I can also show how to integrate MCM into automatically downloading Metadata, cover art, and backgrounds after a tv show is converted. And the final step of viewing all this glorious automation in MB.

This is exactly what I what I would like to to do. I'm in no rush take your time. I want my setup done for football season (hence the reason I considered waiting for Ivy).

I'm having a bit of a problem where recordings that dropped when my Ceton crashed can not be deleted. In researching on WEC, I see that others that have resolved this problem have deleted 3rd party apps. These remain in my Recorded TV folder, untouched by 3r party apps. Has anyone seen this error:

'This recording has been moved or deleted by another application, or is marked read-only and cannot be deleted.'

In the case of one of the recordings, it is not copy protected (there are some issues with Ceton cards), and the program in its entirety has been re-recorded (I thought MC might have it stored somewhere while it re-records, then, either delete or 'stop' using it). Not the case.

Hope your wife is feeling better.
post #11769 of 15901
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Originally Posted by FastM3 View Post

You should consider the ASRock Z68M/USB3 motherboard. Only $85 and you get a Z68 north bridge. It is one of the recommended boards on the first page.

Tiger direct has the Crucial M4 for $80 with free shipping
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...474&CatId=5300

I actually went with the Intel board I listed above..I could contact newegg customer support and cancel it in place of that ASRock..would you suggest that?

Oh and also to the other user above..thanks for the heads up about no storage HDD, but assassin is right..I have one I'll be reusing.

I've been seeing a lot about NAS..is that something I should be looking into?
post #11770 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

You might be able to pop it out and add it as an external drive to anther PC to see what's on it. You might also be able to run some diagnostic tests on it that way.

That is correct. Windows and programs on the SSD. All others (media files) on the storage drive.

Its possible that something was saving to the SSD inadvertently. I have never seen an error like the one you mentioned.

Pulled the SDD and tried to get it working in my other PC. I may have something pluged in wrong, but the PC does not recognize the SDD. Not sure if there is anything to be seen from the picture, but posted anyway.

post #11771 of 15901
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The PC should recognize it like it would recognize any drive.

Edit: One thought tough. Is that PC that its connected to in IDE or SATA mode? I am assuming that bios is set for SATA.

Can you go into Disk Management and see if you see the drive there? (Don't format it. But see if it at least recognizes it there). If it isn't being seen there you may have a SSD that bit the dust.
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Sorry about the uber big picture.

Not sure how to check if IDE or SATA, but this is an old Pentium 4 machine that is about 4 years old.

And no, it is not recognized. I assume I have the power and data cables properly installed. If I take the drive to the place I bought it (Frys), can they check it?

I may also have a bad motherboard. Why would the picture freeze up and then be fine after a reboot? Until the next time it does it, which is starting to get often. I can't see how that would be related to a SDD going bad, or could it?

If I have hardware going bad, I might as well fix it all when I redo it.
post #11773 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Fixed an incorrect setting in your account.

Try it again.

And thanks for using them!

That did the trick.
Thanks!!
post #11774 of 15901
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Originally Posted by jacket_fan View Post

Sorry about the uber big picture.

Not sure how to check if IDE or SATA, but this is an old Pentium 4 machine that is about 4 years old.

And no, it is not recognized. I assume I have the power and data cables properly installed. If I take the drive to the place I bought it (Frys), can they check it?

I may also have a bad motherboard. Why would the picture freeze up and then be fine after a reboot? Until the next time it does it, which is starting to get often. I can't see how that would be related to a SDD going bad, or could it?

If I have hardware going bad, I might as well fix it all when I redo it.

Please give this a try:

Left lower corner, use your mouse and left click on the flag. In the dialogue box, type without quote marks "adminsistive" this should give you a drop down box where you can click "administrative tools". Click Computer management, then Storage, then Disk Management. Please look and see if the disk shows up and if there are any error messages.

I'm not sure if your computer has AHCI disk management but let's check first for a dead drive.If you can see it, and there are no error messages, click on the drive and try to open it from this screen.
post #11775 of 15901
I ended up taking the drive to the local computer store and they hooked it up and it is in fact deader than a doornail.

Have contacted Corsair to see if there is a chance for replacement.

Not sure if that will work out, but worth a try. The guy at the electronics store commented that the failure rate of SDDs is 1 in 6. if that is true, not a very good service life.
post #11776 of 15901
Thread Starter 
That stinks. Any component can fail. Contact Corsair and see if they will help.

I haven't had any SSD failures. I have 3 personally.
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assassin, how do you feel about the ASRock Z68M/USB3 vs Intel BOXDH67BLB3 in the system I posted above? Considering altering my order and replacing the Intel with the ASRock...
post #11778 of 15901
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Originally Posted by jabberbox View Post

assassin, how do you feel about the ASRock Z68M/USB3 vs Intel BOXDH67BLB3 in the system I posted above? Considering altering my order and replacing the Intel with the ASRock...

They are both really good boards. The Z68 offers more bells and whistles compared to the H67 in general.

It just depends what you want the HTPC to do. I have used both and both are very good and very stable although the Intel boards have probably the best reputation at being rock solid but not flashy. For HTPC that's not necessarily a bad thing as you don't need a lot of the flash. Intel boards are typically more expensive than the other brands overall.

Just depends on what you want and need.
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Originally Posted by mattiedread View Post


This is exactly what I what I would like to to do. I'm in no rush take your time. I want my setup done for football season (hence the reason I considered waiting for Ivy).

I'm having a bit of a problem where recordings that dropped when my Ceton crashed can not be deleted. In researching on WEC, I see that others that have resolved this problem have deleted 3rd party apps. These remain in my Recorded TV folder, untouched by 3r party apps. Has anyone seen this error:

'This recording has been moved or deleted by another application, or is marked read-only and cannot be deleted.'

In the case of one of the recordings, it is not copy protected (there are some issues with Ceton cards), and the program in its entirety has been re-recorded (I thought MC might have it stored somewhere while it re-records, then, either delete or 'stop' using it). Not the case.

Hope your wife is feeling better.

I have never come across this issue. I figure you have tried just right clicking on the file from explorer and delete?
Try installing Revolution Uninstaller and see if it can remove the files.
post #11780 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Wilky13 View Post


I have never come across this issue. I figure you have tried just right clicking on the file from explorer and delete?
Try installing Revolution Uninstaller and see if it can remove the files.

Revo Uninstaller
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post #11782 of 15901
Assassin,

I am putting together my parts list for the HTPC I plan to build using this guide. (Thanks by the way! )

Concerning the optical drive, the LITE-ON (Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature IHBS112-29)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=pbdx01npu9ps

As it is currently unavailable on newegg and, to be honest, the latest reviews seem to be mixed at best. Is there another good option as an alternative to this one? I would like to have an all-in-one optical drive. (rip/burn/play BD, DVD, CD's etc..)

Also, does anyone have an opinion on the HDD prices? Should we expect to see a drop anytime soon? I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on my order, but it hurts to see those prices!

Thanks!
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Thanks for your input. I'll stick with the Intel based on the reliability.


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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

They are both really good boards. The Z68 offers more bells and whistles compared to the H67 in general.

It just depends what you want the HTPC to do. I have used both and both are very good and very stable although the Intel boards have probably the best reputation at being rock solid but not flashy. For HTPC that's not necessarily a bad thing as you don't need a lot of the flash. Intel boards are typically more expensive than the other brands overall.

Just depends on what you want and need.
post #11784 of 15901
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Originally Posted by doozer12 View Post

Assassin,

I am putting together my parts list for the HTPC I plan to build using this guide. (Thanks by the way! )

Concerning the optical drive, the LITE-ON (Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature IHBS112-29)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=pbdx01npu9ps

As it is currently unavailable on newegg and, to be honest, the latest reviews seem to be mixed at best. Is there another good option as an alternative to this one? I would like to have an all-in-one optical drive. (rip/burn/play BD, DVD, CD's etc..)

Also, does anyone have an opinion on the HDD prices? Should we expect to see a drop anytime soon? I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on my order, but it hurts to see those prices!

Thanks!

4 eggs is mixed? Take reviews with a grain of salt.

I am seriously considering removing the optical drive section altogether. The drives change every few months and there are dozens of flavors of a particular type of drive from within even 1 manufacturer. And some are rebadged from another manufacturer. Its just too much to review when you have only received 32 donations in 13 months.

What I can say: Overall I like Lite-On and ASUS (as one person pointed out a lot of ASUS drives are rebadged Lite-Ons). I have had mixed results with LG and Samsung. I have limited experience with Pioneer.

I think it will be months before the hard drive prices are back to pre-flood prices ---- if ever.
post #11785 of 15901
My current setup is:
- GIGABYTE Z68MA-D2H-B3 (rev 1.3) motherboard
- Intel 2500K processor
- 8GB ripjaws DDR3 1600 ram
- Corsair force 3 120GB SSD
- WD WD20EARX 2TB internal drive

I followed the instructions here to copy windows 7 pro (purchased legally) to a USB stick and used that to install windows 7 (changed boot priority/disk to boot from the USB drive). When windows was finished installed and rebooted I removed the memory stick and the machine appeared to boot fine. I used another computer to download the network drivers from GIGABYTE's website to the memory stick and installed them on the HTPC. Now that I had network capabilities I ran windows update and it had like 61 updates. Once the updates were done installing windows tried to reboot unsuccessfully (the boot screen comes up but when it should normally transition from the boot screen to the desktop it just hangs and I see "lost connection" on my TV (as if nothing was plugged in)). It looks like there was a little activity on the hard drive (light flickering every 10-20 sec) but I let it sit for about 10 minutes and it never came back. I hit restart on the case and it did the exact same thing again (it gave me the option to boot windows in safe mode but I tried to boot normally again). I rebooted one more time except I chose safe mode with network support. It booted into windows this time and I tried to update the rest of the motherboard drivers from GIGABYTE's website. Once this was complete I rebooted again and it still hangs between the boot screen and when it should be showing my desktop. This is super frustrating since I didn't really do anything between the initial install/boot (except install the network driver and run a windows update) and now I can't get the machine to boot.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks!

-E
post #11786 of 15901
Thread Starter 
Your hardware didn't agree with one or more of the automatic windows hardware updates. As a general rules of thumb I don't let windows change any of the hardware drivers.
post #11787 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Your hardware didn't agree with one or more of the automatic windows hardware updates. As a general rules of thumb I don't let windows change any of the hardware drivers.

Thanks assasin. So you think I should reinstall windows and update the hardware drivers myself before running windows update?
post #11788 of 15901
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Originally Posted by doubleoerik View Post

Thanks assasin. So you think I should reinstall windows and update the hardware drivers myself before running windows update?

That's what I would do for sure...
post #11790 of 15901
Also, any idea why I can see my WD20EARX in the BIOS, during boot-up it comes up, and in the device manager in windows but the drive isn't showing up in windows explorer?
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