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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

Any recommendations for a wireless LAN card that will allow streaming of full Bluray rips. I use a ASUS RT-N66U router.

Is a hardwired Cat 5e/6 line out of the question? What about using powerline adapters?

The issue isn't with the speed of the internet connection but rather the quality of the connection. While many can stream some lower bitrate HD movies streaming full rips is going to be tough. You are always much better with a hard wired connection.
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Is a hardwired Cat 5e/6 line out of the question? What about using powerline adapters?
The issue isn't with the speed of the internet connection but rather the quality of the connection. While many can stream some lower bitrate HD movies streaming full rips is going to be tough. You are always much better with a hard wired connection.

+1

Streaming full 1080p 30GB MKV's from bluray's isn't going to work well on wireless.

Powerline adapter is a good solution over wireless if you can not run a wire.
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is 16GB of ram a good idea if you are using handbrake to compress movies or you won't notices any different with 8GB? Thx
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Powerline adapter is a good solution over wireless if you can not run a wire.

Be careful shopping. The cheaper versions of these are SLOW, which defeats the purpose.

post #14855 of 15901
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

Any recommendations for a wireless LAN card that will allow streaming of full Bluray rips. I use a ASUS RT-N66U router.

That's a beast router. I use one of these with the e4200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124338

I stream full blu ray rips wirelessly. The wet610n was $30 free shipping on ebay, but it's not portable. My bedroom HTPC isn't portable either, so I didn't really mind.

It's 20 feet and one wall from all the content shared from W7 HTPC in living room. I gave it a dedicated 5GHz band with no SSID broadcast

Everybody says you can't do it, and there are lots of situations were they are correct. Try a dual band wireless bridge from a place with a good return policy, and if it doesn't work out get your money back and run Cat 6
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

That's a beast router. I use one of these with the e4200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124338
I stream full blu ray rips wirelessly. The wet610n was $30 free shipping on ebay, but it's not portable. My bedroom HTPC isn't portable either, so I didn't really mind.
It's 20 feet and one wall from all the content shared from W7 HTPC in living room. I gave it a dedicated 5GHz band with no SSID broadcast
Everybody says you can't do it, and there are lots of situations were they are correct. Try a dual band wireless bridge from a place with a good return policy, and if it doesn't work out get your money back and run Cat 6

Dark_slayer, thanks for the info on the Asus router, i was researching about this router. And wanted someone from this community to vouch for it, as most the members in here are hardcore techies. Currently i am using a Netgear WNDR3700 for almost over two years now, its been working great, but few recent add on of wifi components in the house, i have been observing few gadgets dont see the router. I have setup both the ssid's for 2.4Gz and 5Gz seperately.. inspite of that none of the ssid's are visible. Its happening to a few devices, such as one of my sony laptops, the xbox, my cousins android phone.. none are visible.
Other than that, appletv, my hp laptop, google Revue, iphone all are visible and works fine.

After a few hours of researching i found few other people have had the same issue, and it looks like after replacing the router with a another brand everything was working fine. Hence was planning to buy a new router. Was looking at Cisco Linksys E4200 v2 Maximum Performance Dual-Band N900 router and the Asus router. Cnet scores the cisco e4200 v2 router first class.. however i read a lot of people complaining. With the asus router, the only issue i hear is that 2.4Gz, has some deadspots, whereas the 5ghz is second to none.
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Originally Posted by holyindian View Post

After a few hours of researching i found few other people have had the same issue, and it looks like after replacing the router with a another brand everything was working fine. Hence was planning to buy a new router. Was looking at Cisco Linksys E4200 v2 Maximum Performance Dual-Band N900 router and the Asus router. Cnet scores the cisco e4200 v2 router first class.. however i read a lot of people complaining. With the asus router, the only issue i hear is that 2.4Gz, has some deadspots, whereas the 5ghz is second to none.

The ridiculously long "Best Wireless Router" thread started by Zon2020 never seems to end, but he did end up going with the Asus

If it matters to you, the 4200v2 is a marvell chipset while the v1 was broadcom. Doesn't look like either of the WRT groups or Tomato have any plans to support Marvell.

I'd honestly just run cat6 from a gig switch if I had a house

To maximize wireless effectiveness, smallnetbuilder recommends hanging a bunch of repeaters off of your router (in different corners of your home) to make a large wireless "blanket." Open source firmwares let you turn the router into repeater mode. Some stock firmwares support this as well.

To clarify, I have the 4200v2. I'd pm Zon2020 about the Asus, but he seemed to be happier with it than the Linksys in his thread

I keep mine near the TV, but in a spot with pretty good airflow because it can get pretty hot
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

The ridiculously long "Best Wireless Router" thread started by Zon2020 never seems to end, but he did end up going with the Asus
If it matters to you, the 4200v2 is a marvell chipset while the v1 was broadcom. Doesn't look like either of the WRT groups or Tomato have any plans to support Marvell.
I'd honestly just run cat6 from a gig switch if I had a house
To maximize wireless effectiveness, smallnetbuilder recommends hanging a bunch of repeaters off of your router (in different corners of your home) to make a large wireless "blanket." Open source firmwares let you turn the router into repeater mode. Some stock firmwares support this as well.
To clarify, I have the 4200v2. I'd pm Zon2020 about the Asus, but he seemed to be happier with it than the Linksys in his thread
I keep mine near the TV, but in a spot with pretty good airflow because it can get pretty hot

I will look up that thread now.
Actually everything in the house is hardwired using cat6 cables. Its just the problem with the laptop and the phone's annoy. We tried brining the laptop and the phone closer to the router, infact placing it just next to it also did not work.
However other gadgets work even from 200ft away. Looks like the router does not like a hardwares made of specific brand. biggrin.gif

I will first get the asus and see how it goes, it not will have to return and try the e4200 v2.
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.. delete (double post, darn my router)
Edited by holyindian - 12/4/12 at 4:47pm
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double post ?
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

double post ?

router acting up.. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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you posting on your i7 HTPC ?
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

you posting on your i7 HTPC ?

Thats for a different issue.. The more HTPC stuff i do.. more issues are surfacing. tongue.gif
i7 is for HD audio not bitstreaming over TMT, and here its the router..
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

The ridiculously long "Best Wireless Router" thread started by Zon2020 never seems to end, but he did end up going with the Asus
If it matters to you, the 4200v2 is a marvell chipset while the v1 was broadcom. Doesn't look like either of the WRT groups or Tomato have any plans to support Marvell.
I'd honestly just run cat6 from a gig switch if I had a house
To maximize wireless effectiveness, smallnetbuilder recommends hanging a bunch of repeaters off of your router (in different corners of your home) to make a large wireless "blanket." Open source firmwares let you turn the router into repeater mode. Some stock firmwares support this as well.
To clarify, I have the 4200v2. I'd pm Zon2020 about the Asus, but he seemed to be happier with it than the Linksys in his thread
I keep mine near the TV, but in a spot with pretty good airflow because it can get pretty hot

Wow i got lucky today. While researching about the Asus router.. dealnews posted a possible price mistake for a newer model of this router.

Have posted the deal on the deal thread.. (transcript below), get it while its on. I ordered one biggrin.gif

Price Mistake - ASUS RT-AC66U Dual Band 802.11ac / 802.11n Wireless 1750 Gigabit Router, for $99.95

A possible price mistake, B&H Photo-Video offers the ASUS Dual Band 802.11ac / 802.11n Wireless 1750 Gigabit Router, model no. RT-AC66U, for $99.95 plus $5.85 for shipping. That's $54 under our Black Friday mention

The router features a maximum speed of 1.75Gbps, dual-band support, four Gigabit Ethernet ports, two USB ports, and more.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?SID=VUw3Z1Nnb0JDak1BQUV6Qkx3d0FBQU42&is=REG&Q=&PID=552179&A=details&AID=10659349&O=productlist&sku=903319

These go for around 200, get it while u can.
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I am not going to re-mux for any extender plus what about forced subs for foreign language portions of movies or even entire movies?

I am not sure if forced subs go away if you remove subs from your mkv. I could test on "Eastern Promises" and see, I guess. I'll have to find the time, been working 12+ hour days at work, no time for hobbies mad.gif

I had to setup an Xbox Live account to download updates on Xbox, but it was free. Side note: anyone seen all the new video and audio networking and sharing options on the recent Xbox update? That plus the new "Xbox Smart Glass" App for iPhone and Andriod 'made' me buy a 3 month Xbox Live Gold card on black Friday for $5. Haven't set it up yet. Looks like Microsoft is trying to really make the Xbox a true Media Extrender.
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Is a hardwired Cat 5e/6 line out of the question? What about using powerline adapters?
The issue isn't with the speed of the internet connection but rather the quality of the connection. While many can stream some lower bitrate HD movies streaming full rips is going to be tough. You are always much better with a hard wired connection.


Thanks I will try a Cat6 cable then. Drilling time I guess:). If not possible, would Moca adapter offer a solution, Power adapters dont work well on my system. Is it at all possible to watch full bluray rips with full menus on a HTPC? What setup would you recommend? Mediabrowser or XBMC?
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I just start setting up my AMD Llano based HTPC. Following the guide I ran into trouble setting up the connection to my system. I click on the little loudspeaker symbol and Playback devices but don't see my Onkyo receiver or Panasonic TV listed. Instead I just see AMD HDMI device, speakers and Realtek digital output listed. The HTPC is connected with a HDMI cable to the Onkyo receiver. I do get picture but no sound. Are there any other setting that need to be changed?

System specs are: Asrock A75M, A6-3670, 8 GB Ripjaws, Windows7 Home 64 bit.




















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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

Thanks I will try a Cat6 cable then. Drilling time I guess:). If not possible, would Moca adapter offer a solution, Power adapters dont work well on my system. Is it at all possible to watch full bluray rips with full menus on a HTPC? What setup would you recommend? Mediabrowser or XBMC?

Drilling time takes one afternoon. The rewards of that cat6 cable will pay pack for a really long time.
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

 Is it at all possible to watch full bluray rips with full menus on a HTPC? What setup would you recommend? Mediabrowser or XBMC?

And now for something completely different. The best way to play back a full BD is with a BDP. How about just using your setup (with which, obviously, you are able to make a copy of the BD) to write to a BD-RE and play it back in a regular BDP. No drilling, no streaming, no problem.

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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

And now for something completely different. The best way to play back a full BD is with a BDP. How about just using your setup (with which, obviously, you are able to make a copy of the BD) to write to a BD-RE and play it back in a regular BDP. No drilling, no streaming, no problem.

I don't have a BD writer. And am not planning to write one. The reason for backing up BDs is to handle the discs as little as possible. Burned discs are even more fragile that pressed ones. But if its gonna be an option what would be a good writer?

What are good quality discs (25 and 50 GB) that are compatible with a wide range of players if possible at a disc price below 1.50 Euros for 50 GB.

There is no fun in starting a new collection of self-burned discs, I rather keep the backups in a central place on my NAS.
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The idea (for me, anyway) is to ERASE the disc when you're done. I know that's a little out of the ordinary around here, since the consensus seems to be to build a 10TB server and keep everything forever, but that's what I was thinking (and, frankly, what I've done).

If you're thinking in Euros, then I'm afraid I can't help you with buying suggestions. But others will certainly chip in.

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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

The idea (for me, anyway) is to ERASE the disc when you're done. I know that's a little out of the ordinary around here, since the consensus seems to be to build a 10TB server and keep everything forever, but that's what I was thinking (and, frankly, what I've done).
If you're thinking in Euros, then I'm afraid I can't help you with buying suggestions. But others will certainly chip in.


That is way to cumbersome and what would be the life-expectancy of such a disk be. How long does it take to burn a disc? Can all bluray players read bd-re reliably when such a disc has been used 10-20 times?
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PowerDVD and Arcsoft TotalMedia packages offer BD menu support and can launch from most frontends

Seems cheaper than a lot of standalone players and blank BD-R

It would be a ton faster as well
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

That is way to cumbersome and what would be the life-expectancy of such a disk be. How long does it take to burn a disc? Can all bluray players read bd-re reliably when such a disc has been used 10-20 times?

Don't know, but I'm sure there's research out there.

Don't know, since I start it and go to work or go to sleep, so it doesn't matter to me.

Don't know, but mine does.

Okay, so it's not for you. Just sayin'.

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Hope you got the recent deals on hard drives. 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

PowerDVD and Arcsoft TotalMedia packages offer BD menu support and can launch from most frontends
Seems cheaper than a lot of standalone players and blank BD-R
It would be a ton faster as well

Thanks, very helpfull. I already have a Total Media Theatre 5 license. I go and investagete further how to launch it from Mediabrowser.
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Looks like I was able to figure out my issue from the other day by manually editing the config.ini file - it's no joke when you hear that you have to be willing/able to tinker if you want to have an HTPC!

New question for today... I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I've used the "search thread" function and can't find it. I've burned a few movies from BD and am finding that a few won't play sound, while others are. Sound works just fine in MediaCenter menus, etc. TV shows are also not playing sound.

Is this a codec issue?
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

Thanks, very helpfull. I already have a Total Media Theatre 5 license. I go and investagete further how to launch it from Mediabrowser.

Super easy, launch "Configure Media Browser"

change to advanced

Choose .iso (only one offering menu support I believe)

Select TMT5 as the external player in the drop down menu
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

I just start setting up my AMD Llano based HTPC. Following the guide I ran into trouble setting up the connection to my system. I click on the little loudspeaker symbol and Playback devices but don't see my Onkyo receiver or Panasonic TV listed. Instead I just see AMD HDMI device, speakers and Realtek digital output listed. The HTPC is connected with a HDMI cable to the Onkyo receiver. I do get picture but no sound. Are there any other setting that need to be changed?
System specs are: Asrock A75M, A6-3670, 8 GB Ripjaws, Windows7 Home 64 bit.
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Clicking the little loudspeaker and Playback devices gives me a popup-menu showing AMD HDMI as default. When I select this and clicking configure I can select stereo, 5.1 and 7.1. Clicking the little play button I hear testtones on all louspeakers.

Does this mean all is well? I still don't hear sound when playing m2ts with DTS-MA HD or mkvs. My receiver doesn't switch another soundmode like DTS.
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Originally Posted by BucksWin View Post

Looks like I was able to figure out my issue from the other day by manually editing the config.ini file - it's no joke when you hear that you have to be willing/able to tinker if you want to have an HTPC!
New question for today... I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I've used the "search thread" function and can't find it. I've burned a few movies from BD and am finding that a few won't play sound, while others are. Sound works just fine in MediaCenter menus, etc. TV shows are also not playing sound.
Is this a codec issue?

Happens to me too occasionally. TV and movies have no sound, but Windows/Media Center does. I believe it's a handshake problem (HDCP or EDID). A reboot should fix it. For me, power cycling my receiver does the trick. Sometimes I guess it just drops the connection.
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

Clicking the little loudspeaker and Playback devices gives me a popup-menu showing AMD HDMI as default. When I select this and clicking configure I can select stereo, 5.1 and 7.1. Clicking the little play button I hear testtones on all louspeakers.
Does this mean all is well? I still don't hear sound when playing m2ts with DTS-MA HD or mkvs. My receiver doesn't switch another soundmode like DTS.

What receiver do you have? Sorry if I missed it.
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