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Will do.

Glad you liked the double install method. Very easy to do.

Hey guys --- take a look at my quick link section and let me know what you think. This is pretty arduous to do.

Looks good. I could have used that last week.
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This might be a stupid question, but I'm new to this.

I purchased the windows 7 family 3 upgrade pack. Was going to double install on my new htpc I'm building and then going to upgrade either my laptop that has XP or my desktop that has vista..which one do you suggest and since I'm doing the double install, I can only upgrade one of these other two computers correct?
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

This might be a stupid question, but I'm new to this.

I purchased the windows 7 family 3 upgrade pack. Was going to double install on my new htpc I'm building and then going to upgrade either my laptop that has XP or my desktop that has vista..which one do you suggest and since I'm doing the double install, I can only upgrade one of these other two computers correct?

You can update all three.
post #2464 of 15901
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Hey guys --- take a look at my quick link section and let me know what you think. This is pretty arduous to do.

Nice. Time well spent IMO. Great enhancement to an already top-notch thread!
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Nice. Time well spent IMO. Great enhancement to an already top-notch thread!

Thanks.

Quicklinks are basically done.
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Originally Posted by car421 View Post

What is the benefit by using 64k over 4k?

Less fragmentation. Also, you could record more shows at the same time. I remember when I was using the default 4K sectors, I'd have stutters in recordings when I record 4 shows simultaneously. With 64K sectors, I've had no issues recording up to 6 shows at the same time (although it's not often that there's actually that much content worth watching).
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Quick links are going to be a huge help for people that are just now finding this....this new sticky thread is getting huge with tons of great information and other not so useful information like this current post, but that makes a forum and thread good.

Again thanks to assassins time and effort!
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Again thanks to assassins time and effort!

You're welcome!

I have added to the FAQ how to allocate and activate the rest of your hard drive once the partition is created and Windows 7 is installed.
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I've updated a few of the RAM choices, especially in the zacate section.

Also the Lian-Li mini-ITX case was deactivated so I removed it from the list.
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looks great assassin. Tons of info and nicely presented

Man i forgot when i posted those pics how ugly it is with no cable management lol. Once i get my new PSU (the one i used in that build died) ill have ot take a final picture for sure.
post #2471 of 15901
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Originally Posted by ehosteda View Post

Hey everyone!

First let me say thanks for this awesome thread. It is really informative.

Second, I just want you guys to look over this build and tell me how you think it would fair. I just want something to play my 1080p movies perfectly. I will be streaming it from a NAS or a USB external.

Link (secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20034667) to my build.

My main question is this. Will that be able to run the infamous high bitrate Planet Earth bird scene (youtube.com/watch?v=e0WBz5bOTEo) properly without any dropped frames or lagging video?

Thanks so much!

I also want to know this.
The Zacate and SB builds can handle this scene? I thought they only run around 10% power when doing BR 1080p, is this right/>
post #2472 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Hawkson View Post

I also want to know this.
The Zacate and SB builds can handle this scene? I thought they only run around 10% power when doing BR 1080p, is this right/>

Does anyone have a clip of this scene? I don't own any of the Planet Earth stuff on Blu-Ray (I know, I know ) so I can't rip it on my own, but if someone has a test clip of it I'll test it on my Zacate build.
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Does anyone have a clip of this scene? I don't own any of the Planet Earth stuff on Blu-Ray (I know, I know ) so I can't rip it on my own, but if someone has a test clip of it I'll test it on my Zacate build.

Awesome! I found a forum post that has that scene's clips at different bitrates. I would be your new best friend if you could test them out

forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/3029-1080p-test-mkv-examples-from-birds-scene-earth-movie/

Sorry that you have to copy/paste my links. I can't post links yet since I am such a noobie here
post #2474 of 15901
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Originally Posted by okillagorilla View Post

Does anyone have a clip of this scene? I don't own any of the Planet Earth stuff on Blu-Ray (I know, I know ) so I can't rip it on my own, but if someone has a test clip of it I'll test it on my Zacate build.

Check your pm's.
post #2475 of 15901
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Originally Posted by car421 View Post

Ok, double install worked. Took about 1 hr. It updated 4 files(20MB) before I re-installed.
Now the fun of installing all the win7 updates.

Thanks for Service Pack 1 Microsoft!
What a snafu.
Service Pack 1 is supposed to be a "cumulative" collection of all the updates since the base code for Windows 7 was originally shipped. Unless they are changing the philosophy behind what a Service Pack is?
So you install your Windows 7 operating system, get your new fresh install online with the Microsoft's Windows Update Site and it should recognize you do not have Service Pack 1, whereupon it should download and install it.
That "my friends" would be way too easy.
First, it wants to download and install "count-them" 93 updates and patches. During the process it wants some system reboots, after which it recognizes you are eligible for another 65 updates and patches, along with some more reboots.
Finally an hour-and-a-half later.....
It recognizes you need Service Pack 1 (which includes all of the above updates) that you must download and install.
This process should really be cleaned up and streamlined. You should be directed to SP1 at the very beginning.
BTW, I am an MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional) and MCSA (Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator) so for the last 9 months I have been studying in great detail this process (have to know it inside-out for the upcoming MCITP tests).
*Not ranting so much as observing.
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First of all, thats one hell of an impressive scene! I think I'll go pick up this series this week. Amazing footage.

And second of all, I played the 1st and the last video through XBMC and it played almost flawlessly.

First video reported only 1 dropped frame (which im assuming is at the very beginning of playback for every thing played, so probably no dropped frames). The GPU really took over, the CPU would never reach higher than 60% load...

Edit: Here's the Key for the XBMC playback info at the top means:

D[emux info (audio)](Audio: [codec], [samplerate], [channel count], [sample size]) P[layer info(audio)](aq:[decoded audio frame queue usage], kB/s: [decoded audio bitrate])
D[emux info (audio)](Video: [codec], [pixel format], [resolution]) P[layer info (video)](vq:[decoded video frame queue usage], dc:[codec in use], MB/s:[decoded video bitrate]. drop:[dropped frame count], pc:[pattern correction (3:2 pull, etc)])
C[general info (dunno WTF "C" stands for, probably an elupusism)]( AS: [audio sync delay], A/V:[sync error], edl:[edit decision list info], dcpu: [demux cpu usage] acpu: [audio decode cpu usage] vcpu: [video decode cpu usage])
W[indow? (who cares, this stuff is obvious)]( fps:[render framerate] CPU0: [first scheduling unit usage] CPU1: [...])





The second video had a few dropped frames the first time I played it, but it seems like they were in the very beginning. I played it again and got no dropped frames. It stuttered very very slightly before they zoomed out though.




I dont know whether this is a testament to XBMC, to Zacate or to both. I played these same videos on my 2009 MBP with VLC and it stuttered the whole way through. The Zacate beat my Macbook Pro as far as smooth video playback with these files.
post #2477 of 15901
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Originally Posted by okillagorilla View Post
First of all, thats one hell of an impressive scene! I think I'll go pick up this series this week. Amazing footage.

And second of all, I played the 1st and the last video through XBMC and it played almost flawlessly.

First video reported only 1 dropped frame (which im assuming is at the very beginning of playback for every thing played, so probably no dropped frames). The GPU really took over, the CPU would never reach higher than 60% load...



I dont know whether this is a testament to XBMC, to Zacate or to both. I played these same videos on my 2009 MBP with VLC and it stuttered the whole way through. The Zacate beat my Macbook Pro as far as smooth video playback with these files.
Thank you so much for this test. I think you honestly just sold me on my Zacate build. I, too, played this on my Macbook Pro with and I couldn't even make out what was going on. I am truly impressed with that APU.

From what I have heard/read, that is one of the most challenging scenes to play, and if the Zacate did it with little to no stuttering, that is all I need.

Now just to shop around for the lowest prices

Just curious, what are the specs to your Zacate Build?
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Thank you so much for this test. I think you honestly just sold me on my Zacate build. I, too, played this on my Macbook Pro with and I couldn't even make out what was going on. I am truly impressed with that APU.

From what I have heard/read, that is one of the most challenging scenes to play, and if the Zacate did it with little to no stuttering, that is all I need.

Now just to shop around for the lowest prices

Just curious, what are the specs to your Zacate Build?
Here is the link to my build post in this thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post20203757

I've since taken out the Seagate 500gig drive and added a 2tb WD20EARS drive. I also went with the cheaper Zacate board and it's worked out well for what I've needed (No Bluray drive, eSata connection for backups, ect. ect.)

The only thing that I havent really tested is the sound capabilities. I don't have a surround sound setup in my small NYC Apartment . All audio is straight through TV. I'll be able to test is at a friends house when I get a chance.
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Originally Posted by rwpritchett View Post
That is EXACTLY what happened to me a couple weeks ago.

If you haven't already, check out the Wife Approval Factor - How to Prepare thread.
Which IMO, should be renamed to the "How to prepare if your wife wears the pants thread" or "WAF - How to prepare if your a spineless jellyfish" either should suffice.
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Originally Posted by okillagorilla View Post
Here is the link to my build post in this thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post20203757

I've since taken out the Seagate 500gig drive and added a 2tb WD20EARS drive. I also went with the cheaper Zacate board and it's worked out well for what I've needed (No Bluray drive, eSata connection for backups, ect. ect.)

The only thing that I havent really tested is the sound capabilities. I don't have a surround sound setup in my small NYC Apartment . All audio is straight through TV. I'll be able to test is at a friends house when I get a chance.
How did I miss your build?

GREAT pics! Do you mind if I add them to the first page?
post #2481 of 15901
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How did I miss your build?

GREAT pics! Do you mind if I add them to the first page?
I would be honored

If you need me to take more detailed pics or edit my post to have a more detailed write up, then let me know!
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Hey guys - So I'm very close to pulling the trigger but there's really just one last thing I need to ask about. Can your wives/girlfriends use your HTPC by themselves and not get frustrated? If I was living by myself I wouldn't be worried but I know my girlfriend could become very frustrated if we ditch cable and then she has to deal with some complicated system. I have a Harmony One, can that be configured to play nice with WMC? Any general comments or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Hey guys - So I'm very close to pulling the trigger but there's really just one last thing I need to ask about. Can your wives/girlfriends use your HTPC by themselves and not get frustrated? If I was living by myself I wouldn't be worried but I know my girlfriend could become very frustrated if we ditch cable and then she has to deal with some complicated system. I have a Harmony One, can that be configured to play nice with WMC? Any general comments or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
It probably depends what media you are playing back and what software you are using for playback.
post #2484 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Sammy2

It probably depends what media you are playing back and what software you are using for playback.
Sammy, what would one suggest for easy WAF? And does the Harmony One work well with WMC and HTPC use?
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My Harmony 880 works with WMC but I haven't completely finished setting it up because I might be switching to a different player as I am pretty much done with WMC as it has conflicts between playing Live TV and HD Audio that don't seem to go away.
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Heres some pics from my build, since your always asking for pics, I thought Id throw mine up. The original gtx 460 wouldnt fit, the hdds got in the way. ended up having to get another 460 with top mounted plug.
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I've had a better experience than Sammy2. My HTPC is uses by the entire family (3 kids) with only minor issues that they all know how to work around.

We watch Live and Recorded TV, DVDs and Blu-rays (both disc and folder rips), home movies and photos, and listen to a large music collection.

If interested, my system is described in my profile under "About Me".
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