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Originally Posted by wbburden View Post

Would I be safe following this guide for a WHS 2011 server? I'm looking at a G620 processor and H67 motherboard? Anything I need to watch out for?

There are a few WHS threads at AVS. But I think for the general hardware build you should be okay.
post #7862 of 15912
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Why would you buy any card now then?

By the time you decide to go 3D there may be cheaper and better cards available.

I would try the i3 for now but not add a card until you need it as you will likely get a better card or the same card for less money if you wait.

I was going through some posts and I seen you were talking about it with some one else so it got me thinking


Judd
post #7863 of 15912
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Originally Posted by Limp Fox View Post

I was going through some posts and I seen you were talking about it with some one else so it got me thinking


Judd

Sure. If you want to try 3D now that is a whole different question and answer. But you stated that you might want to try it in the future.

If that's the case save your money until you are ready to try 3D. It might be 1 month or it could be 12 months from now. A lot changes in the HTPC world in 3-6 months.
post #7864 of 15912
...true. I have 3D capable equipment, but am still lacking the PJ so if I go that way it will be awhile



Judd
post #7865 of 15912
Assassin I was just looking through you guides again, now that I am doing some more configuring on my htpc and noticed that you don't have the shark program in the install guide. I have not tried the lav thing yet do you recommend uninstalling shark and installing lav instead? Does this make processing for the pc any easier and also for me? I need to be able to do mkv and live tv. Also was able to change my desktop shortcut for WMC to open to live tv, but I was wondering if I can get the green button on the remote to do the same thing?
post #7866 of 15912
I'd use the new Lav codecs, much easier to install, and use. I found the configuration is much easier. Sharks codecs, and I know he is trying to make a living off them, I just don't appreciate it when you do a install it installs the bing toolbar , ask toolbar etc. without your knowledge, kinda of low handed to me.
post #7867 of 15912
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Originally Posted by wbburden View Post

Would I be safe following this guide for a WHS 2011 server? I'm looking at a G620 processor and H67 motherboard? Anything I need to watch out for?


I used the same processor, but a H61 Asus mini-ITX mobo and it works great. Plenty for a server.
post #7868 of 15912
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Originally Posted by hanly2 View Post

Assassin I was just looking through you guides again, now that I am doing some more configuring on my htpc and noticed that you don't have the shark program in the install guide. I have not tried the lav thing yet do you recommend uninstalling shark and installing lav instead? Does this make processing for the pc any easier and also for me? I need to be able to do mkv and live tv. Also was able to change my desktop shortcut for WMC to open to live tv, but I was wondering if I can get the green button on the remote to do the same thing?

Both work.

I like using just LAV because its easier to use and has much less options to adjust. With Shark there are almost too many options and literally probably tens of thousands of possible combinations.

Why do all of that when LAV works so well and is so easy to use?

Why not just use the Live TV button on your remote? That will launch you automatically into Live TV.
post #7869 of 15912
Anyone use any cloud based storage for their htpc?

Amazon? Windows skydrive? How do you like it and other thoughts I'd like to hear?

Thanks
post #7870 of 15912
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Originally Posted by ff.fahimi View Post

Anyone use any cloud based storage for their htpc?

Amazon? Windows skydrive? How do you like it and other thoughts I'd like to hear?

Thanks

Most people don't. Internal or attached storage is very affordable.
post #7871 of 15912
Assassin,

I currently use PS3's to stream my 1080p mkv's from my home pc using ps3 media server with excellent results. In general, what are the main benefits and performance gains from using a home built dedicated HTPC compared to the ps3.
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Assassin,

I currently use PS3's to stream my 1080p mkv's from my home pc using ps3 media server with excellent results. In general, what are the main benefits and performance gains from using a home built dedicated HTPC compared to the ps3.

This is like asking what is the difference between a streamer like the WD Live and a HTPC.

Take a look at some of the numerous threads discussing the differences here at AVS.
post #7873 of 15912
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Originally Posted by ravex911 View Post

Assassin,

I currently use PS3's to stream my 1080p mkv's from my home pc using ps3 media server with excellent results. In general, what are the main benefits and performance gains from using a home built dedicated HTPC compared to the ps3.

I'm having issues with this. my 1080p MKV files skip, lag etc. How do you get to play them so well? Enlighten me with your setup, settings, etc please?

Judd
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Are you having issues with playing mkv's on from your computer to the ps3? I would guess you are running 100 Meg LAN? Can you send me your specs?

I am using PMS version 1.40.0 on a windows 7 64-bit quad core q9550 2.83ghz 8gigs ram on a gigabit network with lossless quality, Keyint=5;vqscale=1;vqmin=1. I can play 720p and 1080p movies with no lag or sound sync issues. But the trick is making sure your network is solid.

If you are using wireless or 100 Meg LAN, try changing the Mpeg2 quality settings to: keyint=25;vqmax=5;vqmin=2. Also in the MEncoder tab, make sure you have "Switch to tsMuxR when H264 video is PS3 compatible" checked. That will give you better compression on a slow net.
post #7875 of 15912
Valid point. I had looked into the WD live and other streaming devices and they all lacked full hdmi 1.4 and gigabit speeds. So obvious choice is to build one to get the latest and greatest.

Since the PS3 does a very good job streaming, I'd imagine a dedicated htpc would have better quality and 3d support. I'll see if I can find some good threads that explain the positives.

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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

This is like asking what is the difference between a streamer like the WD Live and a HTPC.

Take a look at some of the numerous threads discussing the differences here at AVS.
post #7876 of 15912
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Originally Posted by Limp Fox View Post

I'm having issues with this. my 1080p MKV files skip, lag etc. How do you get to play them so well? Enlighten me with your setup, settings, etc please?

Judd

What is your current system setup?
How big are your mkv files?
Wired or wireless?
post #7877 of 15912
Rave/Cburbs

HTPC:
i3-2100
ASUS P67 M-Evo board
8 gig DDR3 memory

I've tried both Wireless and Wired. Wired connection is at 1 GBps
MKV Files on HTPC range from approx 2.75 GB SD DVD's up to about 34.7 GB for the Blue-ray's. My HTPC is set up right next to my router and my PS3 is hardwired about 100ft away.

Has stated I am using PS3 Media Server. I did not go into it and mess with anything since I don't really know what I'm doing. It transcodes it's self. From what I've read on this site it looks like others play MKV's just fine with lesser (HTPC) systems. Some one also responded a little bit back saying it might be the PS3's software. I was told from a friend I should Jailbreak the PS3 and run Linux, but in all honesty I don't think I should have to do that.


**Edit. Firewall is on. I haven't tried it with it off yet. Seems like a pita to disable and enable it all the time, but I've read people do that. Maybe I will try that later.

Thanks
Judd
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You should not have any issues with that hardware. I have a jb ps3 3.55 and ofw ps3 3.70 and both work fine. On Win 7, my firewall is enabled. Does any part of the movie run smooth or are your issues sportatic. I run 1080p mkv's from 6 to 20 gigs and no slow downs at all.

Try:

1. Check for any fauly network cables (make sure they are all cat5e)
2. 720 vs 1080p movie to see if there is any difference.
3. Under Transcoding Settings, under Video quality settings, click on the drop down and select: keyint=25:vqmax=5:vqmin=2 /* Good quality for HD Wifi Transcoding */

See is either of these options help any.
post #7879 of 15912
The Cables all look fine. The cable going to my HTPC is CAT5 and the Cable going to my PS3 is Cat6. Would that make a difference?

There's no difference in playback between 480 (older DVD's), 720 and 1080. All movies start out ok then about 2-3 seconds into it is where it starts to skip. Similar to Youtube on a slower computer that skips, buffers, goes for 1-2 seconds then skips and buffers again.

I just changed the Video quality settings like you said. I'm going to try them out.

***I noticed in the Transcoding settings tab, under Numbers of cores used for Transcoding is has 4. In parenthesis it says (it seems you have 4). I wonder why it is picking up that I have 4? I have a dual core. Should I change it to 2 or doesn't it matter?

Thanks
Judd
post #7880 of 15912
Ok so I wanted to test WIFI capabilities with the new setting first. I watched about 5 minutes of Fast and Furious and all was well.I then selected Cars and it skipped here n there. I plugged in my LAN line and the same thing happened. I tried out a bunch of other disney pixar movies and yet again the same thing with all of them. I went back and tried other movies and, yes, the same thing. all seemed fine.

EDIT***
If it matters when in PS3 MEdia Server under Transcoding settings there's a Red X to the left of Avisynth/FFmpeg and Avisynth/MEncoder. There's also a exclamation mark inside a orange/yellow triangle to the left of VLC Video Streaming and VLC Audio Streaming.


Judd
post #7881 of 15912
Are you running the latest version of ps3 media server? looks like a new version just came out on the 22nd - http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/


Another thought is uninstall it and reinstall it....make sure your reboot in between.

One other thought have you tried serviio to see if it works any better.
post #7882 of 15912
I thought I had the latest since I just dl'd it about 3 nights or so ago, but turns out I have version 1.30.1. Later on I will uninstall, reboot, install 1.4 and see what happens. If the problem still exists should I uninstall the program then try serviio?


Judd
post #7883 of 15912
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Originally Posted by wbburden View Post

Would I be safe following this guide for a WHS 2011 server? I'm looking at a G620 processor and H67 motherboard? Anything I need to watch out for?

If you want to start a separate thread for this subject, it's something I'd like to talk about too. I'd offer some ideas but I don't want them to get lost in this thread and it's off-topic. I've been doing quite a bit of looking into the home server side of things lately as I get ready to migrate mine.
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

If you want to start a separate thread for this subject, it's something I'd like to talk about too. I'd offer some ideas but I don't want them to get lost in this thread and it's off-topic. I've been doing quite a bit of looking into the home server side of things lately as I get ready to migrate mine.

I am also interested on WHS. Can you link the thread about it on this thread for others to find?
post #7885 of 15912
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Originally Posted by Limp Fox View Post

I thought I had the latest since I just dl'd it about 3 nights or so ago, but turns out I have version 1.30.1. Later on I will uninstall, reboot, install 1.4 and see what happens. If the problem still exists should I uninstall the program then try serviio?


Judd

You don't need to uninstall it just disable PS3MS from running.

Let us know what happens -
post #7886 of 15912
Hey Assassin, what fan setup do you recommend for the Antec 300? I want my build to be reasonably quiet for an HTPC. Are there any particular case fans that you think are good?
post #7887 of 15912
Judd,

The settings are fine within PMS. You have 4 cores because you it see's hyper threading as another 2 cores. Important thing is that MEncoder and TsMuxer are green; everything else you mentioned is fine.

Try this:

I would try replacing the cables with matching sets. Another option would be to connect your PC directly to the PS3 and set static IP addresses for your computer and PS3 (make sure they have different static ip's). That would at least eliminate networking issue.

Based on what you said, it could be network related or software related. I would first rule out the network issue. After that a fresh install of your OS (windows 7) and PMS should fix things. As I am mainly using the standard vendor install settings and my movie playback works great. I've been using PMS for over a year on all sorts of OS and Hardware platforms with no major issue.

Also, where are you playing the media files from? Is it off the local pc HD, USB or network drive? If they are NOT from your local Hard Drive, please put the mkv's on ur local drive and try that first.

Hope this helps, I am sure it is frustrating not being able to smoothly stream you movies to the PS3.

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Originally Posted by Limp Fox View Post

I thought I had the latest since I just dl'd it about 3 nights or so ago, but turns out I have version 1.30.1. Later on I will uninstall, reboot, install 1.4 and see what happens. If the problem still exists should I uninstall the program then try serviio?


Judd
post #7888 of 15912
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Originally Posted by lwong180 View Post

Hey Assassin, what fan setup do you recommend for the Antec 300? I want my build to be reasonably quiet for an HTPC. Are there any particular case fans that you think are good?

The stock fans are excellent. I have used the case twice and have used all stock fans both times.

Fantastic case.
post #7889 of 15912
Also what did you use to encode these files to MKV?
post #7890 of 15912
Wanted to say thanks for the fantastic guide and have enjoyed all of the great information from this community.

I have built a couple Frankenstein htpc machines from old salvaged parts from my work, but this will be the first dedicated HTPC machine.

Please let me know how these specs look for a family room HTPC (WAF & DAF very important):
  • Case: Habey EMC-600B
  • Optical: None - Everything is on the NAS and use network quad core for ripping/transcoding
  • Mobo: ASRock H67M-ITX LGA 1155 Intel H67 N82E16813157238
  • CPU: I3 2100
  • Boot Hd: OCZ Solid 3 60GB
  • Secondary Hd: 250gb 2.5 hd (salvage) I have 5tb on the NAS so just wanted a little more than the boot os local.
  • Memory: 2gb 1066 (salvage) I know this is low, but I already have it, plus with a fast SSD you don't pay that much of a penalty for page file swapping. Is this ok, or should I spend the $25 and go for 4gb 1333?
  • Cable: Networked bridged Ceton infitivi4 2 channels - 1gb lan
  • Remote: This is one of my biggest concerns, suggestions appreciated. On my basement HTPC I am using/testing 4 remotes:
    • Harmony SST-659 best for turning on/off TV/Receiver/htpc, only so so for WMC navigation.
    • Lenovo N5902 maybe best all around but still lacking for control of other devices and quick access to forward/reverse,ease of use when not staring at remote. Not good for speed watching of football games.
    • Iphone - logitech touch mouse best for keyboard entry and mouse based navigation, poor for WMC control.
    Iphone Boxee remote control - great for boxee no use for wmc.
    • VRC-1100 bad for text entry, tivo remote type shape and layout probably make it best for overall wmc navigation. IR seems very sensitive about aiming directly at sensor.
This will primarily be for watching TV, NAS movie library, netflix and hulu. Not a fan of home 3D - yet.
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