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post #8671 of 15901
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Originally Posted by rsoares28 View Post

Thanks for the reply, i thought you needed that .dll only if you trying to play a bluray disk usuing TMT5.


I have been looking/researching this for a few days and it sounds or reads like the dll is really a decoder trick to allow Decoded output of DTS-HD to your legacy (non hdmi) card/AVR. If a system is capable of bit-streaming an audio codec a audio decoder workaround shouldn't be needed. I am using a i3 with a z68 board and after setup of Lav and configuring my audio output mode number to match my speaker config bitstreaming of all hi-res formats was automatic.

Another option I would try the shark codec back to validate if the tmt trick is really needed.
post #8672 of 15901
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

I have been looking/researching this for a few days and it sounds or reads like the dll is really a decoder trick to allow Decoded output of DTS-HD to your legacy (non hdmi) card/AVR. If a system is capable of bit-streaming an audio codec a audio decoder workaround shouldn't be needed. I am using a i3 with a z68 board and after setup of Lav and configuring my audio output mode number to match my speaker config bitstreaming of all hi-res formats was automatic.

Another option I would try the shark codec back to validate if the tmt trick is really needed.

Now that's interesting. I was getting the info from here at AVS and also at the doom9 forums where that information was posted.
post #8673 of 15901
Hi Assassin, I'v been lurking for a couple of weeks now and I have the following items in my cart. Would you mind letting me know if this will serve me well?

Intended use: Streaming (Netflix, Hulu, ESPN, etc), Torrents and will replace my Directv (Looking at Hauppauge WinTV DCR-2650 Dual Tuner Cable Card TV Tuner). Will have at least 1 xbox extender.

-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333MHz DIMM PC3-10666 Desktop Memory
-Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan
-ASRock H67M-ITX Socket 1155/ Intel H67/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&V&GbE/ Mini-ITX Motherboard
-Intel Core i3-2100T Processor 2.50 GHz 3 MB Cache Socket LGA1155
-APEX MI-008 Tower Black P4 Chassis with 250W Itx Psu+sata Power Supply
-Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
-Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2 TB SATA2 5400rpm 32 MB Hard Drive HD204UI/Z4
-Samsung Blu-Ray Combo Internal 12XReadable and DVD-Writable Drive
-Rosewill RNX-N250PC IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft PCI Draft N 2T2R Wireless Adapter Up to 300Mbps

Thanks in advance!
post #8674 of 15901
I'm liking the looks of this gigabit switch for my HT setup with the new HTPC going in. I'll have a PS3, 360, the HTPC, Smart TV, and DirecTV receiver. Has anyone gotten this switch before?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Also, does anyone have a good recommendation for an HDMI Splitter?
post #8675 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Now that's interesting. I was getting the info from here at AVS and also at the doom9 forums where that information was posted.

yeah i think some of the information has been mis-communicated in a few instances. Here is a link to some discussion,

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=66084.0
post #8676 of 15901
Assassin, would you mind letting me know what you think of this list of components?

I intend to use it for torrents and 1080p playback.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...px?ID=13193309

Screenshot if the link doesnt work: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19272658/Cheap%20HTPC.JPG
post #8677 of 15901
Thanks for the guide, this is really great and just in time since I want to build an itx system for the family room to stream for my other HTPC that is in the basement.

My house is still not wired so I will be using wireless for now. Are there any ITX mobos that have built in wifi?

I have a wifi card so I guess I'd have to get an ITX case with at least an expansion slot. However is I go with the Asus P8H61-I for example it only has an "1 x PCIe 2.0 x16". Would that work with a regular wifi card that is just PCI?

Also how is this as a wifi? http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=039894

Thanks again for the great guide.
post #8678 of 15901
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Originally Posted by boxterduke View Post

Are there any ITX mobos that have built in wifi?

Asus and Zotac make ITX boards with built in wifi. Asrock has one s1155 board with wifi too.
post #8679 of 15901
Hi, This is my first time building an HTPC. I tried to follow your guide as close as possible. This is the list of part I think I am going to be using

ASRock Z68 PRO3-M 109.99
Silverstone GD04B 73.99
Gigabyte Geforce GT430 1GB 69.99
Corsair CX430 44.99
Intel Core i3-2100 124.99
Gskill Ripjaws 8GB (2x4GB) ddr3-1333 24.99
Samsung F4 2TB 199.99
Asus Blu-ray drive 57.99
HT Omega Striker 7.1 75.99

I am hoping that corsair is enough to power the machine, but if it isn't I think I can get the 500W corsair for $2 more. I'll most likely get the HD last since the price is high because of the flood. I got 8GB of ram since it is so cheap. Any comments? Is this all I need?

Thanks.
post #8680 of 15901
I have just followed Assassin's Guide 8 to get MPC-HC, MadVR and CUDA working on my Asus ENGT430 card and it now seems to have got itself in a situation which looks like this:



Sometimes it works correctly but other times it fails and will not play with a MADvR failure message (in red). Any idea where I am going wrong?
post #8681 of 15901
Anyone looking for a decent deal on an SSD... Buy.com has a Kingston 64GB SSD drive for $59.99 after $40 rebate. Valid through 11/30/11. More details in the deals section.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1376436
post #8682 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Cali Sal View Post

Hi Assassin, I'v been lurking for a couple of weeks now and I have the following items in my cart. Would you mind letting me know if this will serve me well?

Intended use: Streaming (Netflix, Hulu, ESPN, etc), Torrents and will replace my Directv (Looking at Hauppauge WinTV DCR-2650 Dual Tuner Cable Card TV Tuner). Will have at least 1 xbox extender.

-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333MHz DIMM PC3-10666 Desktop Memory
-Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan
-ASRock H67M-ITX Socket 1155/ Intel H67/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&V&GbE/ Mini-ITX Motherboard
-Intel Core i3-2100T Processor 2.50 GHz 3 MB Cache Socket LGA1155
-APEX MI-008 Tower Black P4 Chassis with 250W Itx Psu+sata Power Supply
-Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
-Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2 TB SATA2 5400rpm 32 MB Hard Drive HD204UI/Z4
-Samsung Blu-Ray Combo Internal 12XReadable and DVD-Writable Drive
-Rosewill RNX-N250PC IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft PCI Draft N 2T2R Wireless Adapter Up to 300Mbps

Thanks in advance!

Looks like a good build with the exception of the ripjaws ram which won't fit as the hard drive sits almost on top of a "normal" stick of ram.
post #8683 of 15901
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

yeah i think some of the information has been mis-communicated in a few instances. Here is a link to some discussion,

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=66084.0

Thanks. That helps quite a bit.

My oldish AVR doesn't do HD Audio and I only test these intermittently on another system.
post #8684 of 15901
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Originally Posted by pman555 View Post

Assassin, would you mind letting me know what you think of this list of components?

I intend to use it for torrents and 1080p playback.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...px?ID=13193309

Screenshot if the link doesnt work: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19272658/Cheap%20HTPC.JPG

Looks like a very good build. I haven't used that motherboard so I can't comment on it.

I prefer the ASRock ITX boards.
post #8685 of 15901
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Originally Posted by xero273 View Post

Hi, This is my first time building an HTPC. I tried to follow your guide as close as possible. This is the list of part I think I am going to be using

ASRock Z68 PRO3-M 109.99
Silverstone GD04B 73.99
Gigabyte Geforce GT430 1GB 69.99
Corsair CX430 44.99
Intel Core i3-2100 124.99
Gskill Ripjaws 8GB (2x4GB) ddr3-1333 24.99
Samsung F4 2TB 199.99
Asus Blu-ray drive 57.99
HT Omega Striker 7.1 75.99

I am hoping that corsair is enough to power the machine, but if it isn't I think I can get the 500W corsair for $2 more. I'll most likely get the HD last since the price is high because of the flood. I got 8GB of ram since it is so cheap. Any comments? Is this all I need?

Thanks.

Why the sound card? Its not really needed. I actually prefer a 380-430 watt PSU for HTPC. More isn't always better.
post #8686 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Heuer View Post

I have just followed Assassin's Guide 8 to get MPC-HC, MadVR and CUDA working on my Asus ENGT430 card and it now seems to have got itself in a situation which looks like this:



Sometimes it works correctly but other times it fails and will not play with a MADvR failure message (in red). Any idea where I am going wrong?

Did you follow the sticky guide at AVS located here as well? Its a very good guide and very detailed. Personally I have found very little to gain with Madvr on my systems so I don't use it frequently. Others have noticed a dramatic improvement. It is all subjective so ymmv. Personally I like to keep it as simple as possible and think that the way I use HTPC provides an excellent picture and is easier to use and operate. As I have stated before LAV+WMC gives you about 95% of perfection and LAV+MPC-HC+Madvr gives you about 98% of possible perfection. If that extra little bit is worth it to you then use Madvr. For me its not. But to each their own.
post #8687 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Looks like a very good build. I haven't used that motherboard so I can't comment on it.

I prefer the ASRock ITX boards.

Thanks for taking a look. Would you spend an extra $32 to get a comparable ASROCK board rather than the Foxconn?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157238
vs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186211
post #8688 of 15901
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Originally Posted by pman555 View Post

Thanks for taking a look. Would you spend an extra $32 to get a comparable ASROCK board rather than the Foxconn?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157238
vs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186211

Probably not. That's a very good price.
post #8689 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Probably not. That's a very good price.

That's what I figured. Thanks! :-)
What do you think is the more preferable case between these three?
It seems like one of the Rosewill's comes with a 80mm fan, but is that enough? Also, one of them has a 150W PSU while the other two have 250W. Fans arent too expensive though, so I'd rather go with a better case and add a fan if i have to.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811154091
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147131
post #8690 of 15901
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Originally Posted by pman555 View Post

That's what I figured. Thanks! :-)
What do you think is the more preferable case between these three?
It seems like one of the Rosewill's comes with a 80mm fan, but is that enough? Also, one of them has a 150W PSU while the other two have 250W. Fans arent too expensive though, so I'd rather go with a better case and add a fan if i have to.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811154091
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147131

If you only want 1 hard drive the 1st case is my favorite out of the three assuming you like how it looks.

More roomy and easier to build in. Plenty of place to velcro a SSD if you want one as well.
post #8691 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

If you only want 1 hard drive the 1st case is my favorite out of the three assuming you like how it looks.

More roomy and easier to build in. Plenty of place to velcro a SSD if you want one as well.

I was planning on getting a 750GB HD so i think one HD would be good enough for now.

However, is 150W enough power? And is the 80mm fan big enough?
post #8692 of 15901
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Originally Posted by pman555 View Post

I was planning on getting a 750GB HD so i think one HD would be good enough for now.

However, is 150W enough power? And is the 80mm fan big enough?

My HTPCs run at 35 watts. So will yours. Maybe 50 watts at load.

My HTPC with a SSD, 2 hard drives and an i3 2100 has a 150w PICO PSU.

So yes, you are fine. The fan is enough too.
post #8693 of 15901
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Looks like a good build with the exception of the ripjaws ram which won't fit as the hard drive sits almost on top of a "normal" stick of ram.

Damn, I already ordered them since they were on sale for ~$25. Guess I'll stick them in my home pc and order the standard ram if they don't fit. I guess I thought the use of Intel Core i3-2100T would give me some clearance but maybe that has nothing to do with this? (sorry, first build :/)
post #8694 of 15901
Assassin, still high on getting either of these 2 boards for the build?

Intel Sandy Bridge z68 Recommendations
GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 z68 - $125
2 SATAIII, 4 SATAII, 4 RAM slots USB 3.0, digital optical output. An great board for most users with typical Gigabyte quality throughout.
ASRock Z68 PRO3-M - $125
2 SATAIII, 3 SATAII, 4 RAM slots, USB 3.0, eSATA, digital optical output. Another great option.
post #8695 of 15901
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Originally Posted by joedeman1969 View Post

Assassin, still high on getting either of these 2 boards for the build?

Intel Sandy Bridge z68 Recommendations
GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 z68 - $125
2 SATAIII, 4 SATAII, 4 RAM slots USB 3.0, digital optical output. An great board for most users with typical Gigabyte quality throughout.
ASRock Z68 PRO3-M - $125
2 SATAIII, 3 SATAII, 4 RAM slots, USB 3.0, eSATA, digital optical output. Another great option.

Both are great boards.

For a "typical" HTPC uses (meaning non-gaming and non-overclocking) I like the H67 boards as I think they are a little more stable, imo. Unless there is something that the Z68 board has that you need or if its cheaper then give H67 consideration as well.
post #8696 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Cali Sal View Post

Damn, I already ordered them since they were on sale for ~$25. Guess I'll stick them in my home pc and order the standard ram if they don't fit. I guess I thought the use of Intel Core i3-2100T would give me some clearance but maybe that has nothing to do with this? (sorry, first build :/)

Here's a closeup pic from my "Frankenstein" build...

post #8697 of 15901
Whoa you weren't kidding. Guess, I'll go ahead and order the standard ram now. Thanks for your help Assassin!
post #8698 of 15901
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Originally Posted by Cali Sal View Post

Whoa you weren't kidding. Guess, I'll go ahead and order the standard ram now. Thanks for your help Assassin!

One thing to check is that the Z68 RAM is in the same spot as the H67 board which is what I used in the picture.
post #8699 of 15901
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

I have been looking/researching this for a few days and it sounds or reads like the dll is really a decoder trick to allow Decoded output of DTS-HD to your legacy (non hdmi) card/AVR. If a system is capable of bit-streaming an audio codec a audio decoder workaround shouldn't be needed. I am using a i3 with a z68 board and after setup of Lav and configuring my audio output mode number to match my speaker config bitstreaming of all hi-res formats was automatic.

Another option I would try the shark codec back to validate if the tmt trick is really needed.

See this is what i thought....

Regardless, i did find the .dll, i put it in the 32 bit Lav folder and that DTS HD Sample file i posted earlier now works(DTS HD MSTR lights up on my AVR) I think the file is a mkv. The problem is the AVCHD bluray rip still gives no sound. I'm gonna stick with MKV's that have the DTS-HD MA as the audio track.
post #8700 of 15901
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Originally Posted by pman555 View Post

Thanks for taking a look. Would you spend an extra $32 to get a comparable ASROCK board rather than the Foxconn?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157238
vs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186211

I just realized that the Foxconn mobo in my quoted post above does not have an optical audio out. That may be a problem since my home theater only has 2 HDMI inputs and they are already taken by my cable box and my xbox.

Currently, what I've been doing is hooking up my macbook pro to the TV via HDMI however since my macbook pro isnt new enough to have audio come through the HDMI, I have to hook up the optical audio from my macbook to my home theater.

Sounds like an optical out port is a necessity for me, huh?
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