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post #1651 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

My HTPC doesn't like the 2430 graphics drivers at all, and it is with an Intel DH67BL with the latest BIOS. When trying to use 2430, it is stuck at 800x600 resolution, the Intel Graphics Properties panel is missing, and the Display Audio device is not available. Going back to graphics drivers 2361 and everything is OK. I tried reinstalling 2430 a second time, and it was just as screwed up, so I'm back on 2361.

Did you try the latest one yet?
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=20264
post #1652 of 2220
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Originally Posted by hlkc View Post

Did you try the latest one yet?
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=20264

Yes. This is in W7 64 bit. Is it working for anybody else?
post #1653 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

Yes. This is in W7 64 bit. Is it working for anybody else?

I installed it last night without incident, and it seems so far to be working fine for me. I don't have any of the issues you identified in your previous post and I too am using a DH67BL with W7 HP 64, along with an i3-2100.
post #1654 of 2220
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Originally Posted by DougSmith View Post

FWIW, I am using a 3ft cable ....

Thanks! I'll have those in the troubleshooting queue as I proceed to try to unravel this HDCP mess.
post #1655 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

Yes. This is in W7 64 bit. Is it working for anybody else?

This is the latest beta driver, which released in last 48 hours and it is working for me, so far. But it was working for me before too and I did not have the problem you described.
post #1656 of 2220
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

I installed it last night without incident, and it seems so far to be working fine for me. I don't have any of the issues you identified in your previous post and I too am using a DH67BL with W7 HP 64, along with an i3-2100.

That leaves me scratching my head. I'm still having no luck with 2430. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it about a dozen times, I've downloaded it again 2 times in case something got corrupted during the download, lots of reboots, etc. 2361 installs and works fine. I hadn't tried 2418 before tonight, but I downloaded it and installed it, and it works fine. But 2430 doesn't work for me.

Intel DH67BL with BIOS 0125, Core i7-2600K, Win7 Home Premium 64 bit with SP1 + updated patches.
post #1657 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

That leaves me scratching my head. I'm still having no luck with 2430. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it about a dozen times, I've downloaded it again 2 times in case something got corrupted during the download, lots of reboots, etc. 2361 installs and works fine. I hadn't tried 2418 before tonight, but I downloaded it and installed it, and it works fine. But 2430 doesn't work for me.

Intel DH67BL with BIOS 0125, Core i7-2600K, Win7 Home Premium 64 bit with SP1 + updated patches.

What about 2219? 2219 is the one working for me before 2361. After 2361, all working here. But before 2361, except 2219, nothing work here before.
post #1658 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

That leaves me scratching my head. I'm still having no luck with 2430. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it about a dozen times, I've downloaded it again 2 times in case something got corrupted during the download, lots of reboots, etc. 2361 installs and works fine. I hadn't tried 2418 before tonight, but I downloaded it and installed it, and it works fine. But 2430 doesn't work for me.

Intel DH67BL with BIOS 0125, Core i7-2600K, Win7 Home Premium 64 bit with SP1 + updated patches.


I am still using Bios 0122. Don't know if that's the reason, but it's a difference between our setups.

My Win 7 HP 64 is also fully updated.
post #1659 of 2220
I'm not running an Intel board, however the 2430 works fine on my ASUS Z68.
post #1660 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

That leaves me scratching my head. I'm still having no luck with 2430. I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it about a dozen times, I've downloaded it again 2 times in case something got corrupted during the download, lots of reboots, etc. 2361 installs and works fine. I hadn't tried 2418 before tonight, but I downloaded it and installed it, and it works fine. But 2430 doesn't work for me.

Intel DH67BL with BIOS 0125, Core i7-2600K, Win7 Home Premium 64 bit with SP1 + updated patches.

Sorry to hear. Just updated it to 2430. Not having those problems.

I've got almost the same system.

2600K
DH67BL B3
DDR3-1333 x2 Corsair
X25-M G1

Everything updated from the DH67BL update site, the management engine, rapid storage drivers, BIOS 0125. Left the Audio one alone as its in the driver right?
post #1661 of 2220
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Originally Posted by hlkc View Post

This is the latest beta driver, which released in last 48 hours and it is working for me, so far. But it was working for me before too and I did not have the problem you described.

Its Beta? I followed the link (and switched to english for the page :-)) - didnt see anything about it being beta.
post #1662 of 2220
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Originally Posted by IAM4UK View Post

I asked the good people at Blue Jeans Cable about this idea that certain HDMI cables might make a difference in HDCP, and they said it would have no relation to such an issue. Yet, mysteriously, some claim it does. But those making the claims cannot say or will not say what specific cables work.

I just received the 15' version of this HDMI cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CLYE9Q
This cable completely fixed my HDCP problem. I had HDCP problems when using my other HDMI cables that are 3' or 6' when using Sandy Bridge integrated graphics to my Pioneer SC-05 receiver. Simply replacing that one cable fixed it, and I'm using the exact same hdmi input on the receiver. The shorter cables were HDCP compliant when using ATI graphics cards.
post #1663 of 2220
For those of us using Intel brand motherboards, Andy has posted this useful article http://www.missingremote.com/news/20...ge-uac-enabled

Although it sounds bizzare, I can confirm that it works. You have to update to the BIOS using the BIOS recovery method instead of the other methods. I had used the Windows based updater to get my DH67BL to BIOS 0125, and selecting a refresh rate of "23" gave me approx 23.991 fps.

Even though I was already on 0125, I went through the BIOS recovery method of going to 0125 (copy the *.BIO file to a USB thumb drive, power off, remove the configuration jumper from the motherboard, plug in USB thumb drive, power on, watch it update to 0125, power off, reinstall the configuration jumper, power on and boot normally). Now when I select "23", I get approx. 23.973 fps, which is closer to 23.976.

It is still not perfect, but it is getting close. A quick calculation shows that 23.973 should result in a dropped frame every 5.5 minutes. Personally, I find dropped frames to be a little more jarring than duplicated frames. When the refresh rate is less than 23.976 fps, you'll get dropped frames. When it is higher than 23.976 you'll get duplicated frames.
post #1664 of 2220
New Intel Celeron and Pentium Processors to Arrive in Q3 2011

You guys think the new Celeron G530T will have lower clocks on the downclocking (all sandy bridges i seen are 1600mhz)?
post #1665 of 2220
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Originally Posted by Abula View Post

New Intel Celeron and Pentium Processors to Arrive in Q3 2011

You guys think the new Celeron G530T will have lower clocks on the downclocking (all sandy bridges i seen are 1600mhz)?

I run an 17-2600k at 3.4 ghz and I seem to get about the same idle power consumption as most people get with i3-2100. 35 watts idle 45 watts playing movies. Most of the power is probably consumed by the 650 watt power supply.
post #1666 of 2220
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Originally Posted by sycochkn View Post

I run an 17-2600k at 3.4 ghz and I seem to get about the same idle power consumption as most people get with i3-2100. 35 watts idle 45 watts playing movies. Most of the power is probably consumed by the 650 watt power supply.

Wow thats pretty awesome. I assume thats using the intel graphics?
post #1667 of 2220
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Originally Posted by Abula View Post

New Intel Celeron and Pentium Processors to Arrive in Q3 2011

You guys think the new Celeron G530T will have lower clocks on the downclocking (all sandy bridges i seen are 1600mhz)?

Brilliant. I'll need to wait on picking up more computers for when the new processors hit.
post #1668 of 2220
Hey all,

I read this thread for all the good parts and have a few questions. I'm about to jump off the intel + amd discrete gfx platform (I don't feel like waiting for 65w/mini itix llano) and go just sandy bridge for my htpc. i really need a smaller box with no PCI slot worries.

Here is what I will soon have:

Intel DH61AG Slim Mini-ITX Motherboard
M350 Universal Mini-ITX case
[RAM 8GB]
[SSD for local client; everything is gigE off NAS wired]
[150W Ext PSU 12v via Intel Mobo]

My question is I'm debating the i5-2405S vs. the i3-2100T. I can get a low profile fan for the i5 no prob if necessary.

I see HD3000 for the i5 and Hd2000 for the i3, but that shouldn't be much of a difference for pure htpc use, I gather. I don't do 3d.

I do like snappy menus, however.

Is there any compelling reason to go with an i5, or will the i3 with the HD2000 and slightly slower speed be unnoticeable?

I run WMC w/media browser, tmt3 (and tmt5, when it is bugfree), and have bridged ceton cable card functionality until I get my CC3 HD Home Run Prime. I have noticed that CPU makes a noticeable difference in rendering/changing TV channels. I also have huge 1080p photo albums with that take a good chunk of cpu to render, or so I have experienced in WMC. They have in fact been my biggest CPU bottleneck (and make WMC struggle when i do music slideshows, as I have about 2,000 about 2mb in size, and I like to shuffle/random them).

Up until now, I've run high power CPUs with gamer scale GPUs, but now that I have seen it all go through my kill-a-watt, I just want a low power draw and non-gamer setup.

Really just need to know if the i3 will be OK or if I will appreciate the price diff to the i5. I do not mind an extra hundred bucks if it makes my primary HTPC a much more friendly experience and am not price sensitive in that regard, but I am not going to pay an extra hundred for something I wont notice, either. thanks.

Here's to hoping my 3 foot HDMI cable to my denon wont be a problem =)
post #1669 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post
For those of us using Intel brand motherboards, Andy has posted this useful article http://www.missingremote.com/news/20...ge-uac-enabled
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Now that I've used this method to get closer to 23.976, I have noticed one problem with TMT 3 and 5. It gradually loses lip sync. When the refresh rate is slightly below 23.976, it needs drop a frame every so often. However, it looks as if TMT isn't dropping the frames, and the audio gradually starts leading the video. Hitting "pause" will catch it up, for a little while.

I'm not seeing this lip sync problem with other players when I select a refresh rate of "23", such as PDVD 11 (trial), MPC-HC, or Amazon Unbox. I can very clearly see when these players drop a frame. Ugh, the quest for HTPC perfection eludes me ever so slightly.
post #1670 of 2220
Having a Turbo Boost issue: i5 2500k installed on a Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 motherboard.

When I execute a program like Prime95 on a single core I see utilization jump to 100% with the other cores at 0/1% as usual. What I don't see is the Turbo allowing the chip to move up to 3.7GHz (no overclock), it only goes to 3.4GHz (the turbo level for all 4 cores active).

In the bios I have tried leaving turbo settings set to auto as well as enabled.
I have not tweaked any voltages or frequencies, I'm just trying to 'enable' my turbo boost.

Any ideas??
post #1671 of 2220
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Originally Posted by efotonik View Post

Having a Turbo Boost issue: i5 2500k installed on a Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 motherboard.

When I execute a program like Prime95 on a single core I see utilization jump to 100% with the other cores at 0/1% as usual. What I don't see is the Turbo allowing the chip to move up to 3.7GHz (no overclock), it only goes to 3.4GHz (the turbo level for all 4 cores active).

In the bios I have tried leaving turbo settings set to auto as well as enabled.
I have not tweaked any voltages or frequencies, I'm just trying to 'enable' my turbo boost.

Any ideas??

What are you measuring the CPU speed with? What do your temperatures look like? What kind of heatsink/fan are you using?
post #1672 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

What are you measuring the CPU speed with? What do your temperatures look like? What kind of heatsink/fan are you using?

  • Monitoring frequencies with CPU-Z (have also used SpeedFan as alternate to verify numbers)
  • Downloaded Intel's "Turbo Boost Checker" or whatever widget to check what boost 'mode' I'm getting.
  • Temperatures are fine, full load an all cores puts chip around 60C (using Noctua NH-C12P SE14 cooler)

I've tried Prime95 (and others) loading a single core (should be 3.7) two cores (should be 3.6), three cores (3.5) and all four cores (3.4) and no matter I'm only getting 3.4GHz out of the chip.
post #1673 of 2220
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Originally Posted by efotonik View Post

  • Monitoring frequencies with CPU-Z (have also used SpeedFan as alternate to verify numbers)
  • Downloaded Intel's "Turbo Boost Checker" or whatever widget to check what boost 'mode' I'm getting.
  • Temperatures are fine, full load an all cores puts chip around 60C (using Noctua NH-C12P SE14 cooler)

I've tried Prime95 (and others) loading a single core (should be 3.7) two cores (should be 3.6), three cores (3.5) and all four cores (3.4) and no matter I'm only getting 3.4GHz out of the chip.

There go my ideas. CPU-Z should be fine; I wanted to make sure you weren't doing something crazy like looking at the Control Panel -> System to see "Processor: ... 3.40 GHz" and think that was the current CPU frequency. Your temperatures look OK, so it shouldn't be thermally limiting the frequency.

Do you have EIST (SpeedStep) enabled in the BIOS? Turbo Boost enabled in the BIOS? CPU C-states? I haven't used a Gigabyte motherboard in many years.
post #1674 of 2220
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Originally Posted by efotonik View Post

Having a Turbo Boost issue: i5 2500k installed on a Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 motherboard.

When I execute a program like Prime95 on a single core I see utilization jump to 100% with the other cores at 0/1% as usual. What I don't see is the Turbo allowing the chip to move up to 3.7GHz (no overclock), it only goes to 3.4GHz (the turbo level for all 4 cores active).

In the bios I have tried leaving turbo settings set to auto as well as enabled.
I have not tweaked any voltages or frequencies, I'm just trying to 'enable' my turbo boost.

Any ideas??

Try Tmonitor its made by cpuid which makes CPU-z. But it will give you a better measurement on the cores in real time. Of course like others said your bios settings need to be in order.

You should put your multi and at least 40 though. z68+2500k+after market cooler = must be overclocked.

You should be able to do 4ghz on stock voltage. I'm just sayin'
post #1675 of 2220
planning to get the i3 2100 and i dont know which mobo to get
i can get for a total with the cpu for $180
Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3-B3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...A-H67N-USB3-B3
or for about $20 more i get the ASRock H67M-ITX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157238

the gigabyte in straight newegg gets horrible reviews thats y Im wondering if i should get, i mean the gigabyte and i3 i get locally and the asrock i would order off newegg and get the i3 locally. which would u guys recommend?
post #1676 of 2220
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Originally Posted by vastolorde View Post

planning to get the i3 2100 and i dont know which mobo to get
i can get for a total with the cpu for $180
Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3-B3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...A-H67N-USB3-B3
or for about $20 more i get the ASRock H67M-ITX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157238

the gigabyte in straight newegg gets horrible reviews thats y Im wondering if i should get, i mean the gigabyte and i3 i get locally and the asrock i would order off newegg and get the i3 locally. which would u guys recommend?

My last Gigabyte board was HORRIBLE. Can't even use sleep modes on a 1st gen i7. http://www.gigabyte.us/products/prod...d=3165&dl=1#dl

Don't know if that helps....
post #1677 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

There is bidirectional communication between the HTPC and the receiver that is carried over the HDMI cable. Part of that communication is the EDID reporting what resolutions and refresh rates it supports, and part is HDCP. The length of the cable helps determine the delay between the HTPC and receiver. Apparently, when the delay is too small, my H67 + Core i7 integrated graphics thinks that it is not HDCP compliant. Using a longer cable can delay the communication across the HDMI cable just long enough to trick it into working.

I just found one more application that needs HDCP: Amazon unbox videos. With my normal 3' HDMI cable to my receiver's HDMI 1 input, it won't work. After many experiments with the various cables I have, a HDMI-to-DVI adapter + a DVI-to-HDMI adapter + a 6' HDMI cable to HDMI 2 input on my receiver, it is HDCP compliant some of the time but not all the time. Nasty annoying little bug.


Have you tried another 3' Cable? I suggest Monoprice cables labelled high speed. They are inexpensive and of the highest quality. I'd bet a nickel it's not the length but the quality of the HDMI cable. I've thrown out many that were "included" or big box sale items.
post #1678 of 2220
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

My last Gigabyte board was HORRIBLE. Can't even use sleep modes on a 1st gen i7. http://www.gigabyte.us/products/prod...d=3165&dl=1#dl

Don't know if that helps....

has gigabyte gone bad, i bought multiple stuff from them and the only thing that works still was a video card, i guess i wont give them a try again.
post #1679 of 2220
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

There go my ideas. CPU-Z should be fine; I wanted to make sure you weren't doing something crazy like looking at the Control Panel -> System to see "Processor: ... 3.40 GHz" and think that was the current CPU frequency. Your temperatures look OK, so it shouldn't be thermally limiting the frequency.

Do you have EIST (SpeedStep) enabled in the BIOS? Turbo Boost enabled in the BIOS? CPU C-states? I haven't used a Gigabyte motherboard in many years.

I found this resource searching for explanations to this. The outtake of Turbo is as follows:
Quote:
Here's how to fix it:

Go to Advanced CPU Core features in the BIOS.
1. Change Turbo Boost from "Auto" to "Enabled"
2. Change C1E from "Auto" to "Enabled"
3. Change C3/C6 from "Auto" to "Enabled"
4. Change CPU Thermal Monitor from "Auto" to "Enabled"
5. Change EIST from "Auto" to "Enabled"
6. Change Bidirectional PROCHOT from "Auto" to "Enabled"

With the above changes, my Core i5 happily turbos to my settings of 46x/45x/40x/35x for 1/2/3/4 cores.

Note that I don't know whether all 6 of the above items must be set Enabled. I want them all on anyway, but if there's one you don't one just test what happens when you diasable it!

I know I have TB Enabled, C1E and C3/C6 Enabled. I'm not sure I put the thermal monitor on and I'm not even sure where the Bidirectional PROCHOT is so that's probably not on the right setting.

I'm at work now but will check on these values this evening and report back if the above fixes the issue.
post #1680 of 2220
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Try Tmonitor its made by cpuid which makes CPU-z. But it will give you a better measurement on the cores in real time. Of course like others said your bios settings need to be in order.

You should put your multi and at least 40 though. z68+2500k+after market cooler = must be overclocked.

You should be able to do 4ghz on stock voltage. I'm just sayin'

I may have downloaded Tmonitor already, have to check. How do you know that it gives more accurate measurements on the cores versus CPU-Z?
I'm just curious as most of the online testers seem to use Z.

We'll see about the 40, lol. Even if it is a bit overbuilt for "HTPC" use that is its current primary usage. What is interesting though is increasing the Turbo Boost modes so that during intense loading I'll get a "temporary overclock" through higher Turbo (as mentioned above). Still, when am I going to stress the chip that much to see those gains?

I may have to hit 4Ghz and take a screen just for you (then dial it WAY back, undervolt it, and nerf my i5 to an g620 for everday )
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