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post #571 of 662
Since I can't find the Disney WoW disc in my area I read that you can use any Sony blue ray DVD would you recommend using that until I find a wow disc
post #572 of 662
Where are you located?

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Originally Posted by krayziezay View Post

Since I can't find the Disney WoW disc in my area I read that you can use any Sony blue ray DVD would you recommend using that until I find a wow disc
post #573 of 662
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post #574 of 662
I would like to find this disc in Birmingham, Alabama.
post #575 of 662
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Originally Posted by RBFilms View Post

Where are you located?
I live in Upper Marlboro Maryland
post #576 of 662
post #577 of 662
Hi,

Interesting thread just waiting for my meter to arrive then can adjust my audio. A question about this reference level, so on my denon 2310 amp i turn the volume up to zero (reference level) and use the test tones on the wow disc and adjust the speaker level until meter reaches 83db?. The problem is this reference level is deafening at that level, i usually watch movies at -34. Can you use the test tones at -34 or is it a case use zero for test tones then dial it down to -34 when i watch movies?. It's just my neighbors (thin walls) will be banging on the walls. I will have to have ear plugs in when i adjust the levels at zero.

Update: copied this from a review on the meter i am buying

1. On AV amp, set all speaker channel levels to "+/- 0db"
2. Set SPL meter to C-Slow
3. Set SPL meter to 80db sensitivity (this means that when the sound it receives is 80db, the needle will sit on 0db - i.e. there is 0db deviation from the 80db)
4. Send the test tone on AV amp to the front speakers, turn the volume up until the SPL meter shows 0db (i.e. the test tone was playing at exactly 80db).
5. Send test tone to each surround speaker in turn, including the sub, adjusting the channel level on the AV amp for each until all channels registered as 0db on the SPL meter.
6. Once done, it is worth doing a repeat check to make sure they're all set ok.

is the above correct?
Edited by KAZUKI67 - 4/28/13 at 12:06pm
post #578 of 662
I find that using 0dB of the AVR's MASTER VOLUME as reference level when using test tone sources other than the AVR's internal test tones, is deafening like you said. So I only use 0dB as reference level if I use internal test tones.

I think it is okay to use other levels as reference level for as long as you use it consistently for all your channels. You may, for example set your MASTER VOLUME at -10dB and use that as your reference level if you can listen to it comfortably using WOW's test tones. As you calibrate each channel using an SPL meter, you adjust its VOLUME TRIM LEVEL (not the MASTER VOLUME) until you get the reading of 80dB or 75 dB.
post #579 of 662
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

I find that using 0dB of the AVR's MASTER VOLUME as reference level when using test tone sources other than the AVR's internal test tones, is deafening like you said. So I only use 0dB as reference level if I use internal test tones.

I think it is okay to use other levels as reference level for as long as you use it consistently for all your channels. You may, for example set your MASTER VOLUME at -10dB and use that as your reference level if you can listen to it comfortably using WOW's test tones. As you calibrate each channel using an SPL meter, you adjust its VOLUME TRIM LEVEL (not the MASTER VOLUME) until you get the reading of 80dB or 75 dB.

thanks
post #580 of 662
I have ordered this great disc and I have a question:
I tried to set the right color temperature with a greyscale pattern in the past and while many think Warm 2 is the best setting, I always find myself going back to Neutral; the whites are truly white with that setting, cool is too blue and warm (1 and even more 2) is too red. Am I wrong?
I have a Sony HX-750 LED set.
Does the WOW disc help with Color temp and White Balance?
post #581 of 662
If your Sony tv has a setting called Clear White then turn that on while using Warm 2. That will make your whites more blue. It takes awhile to get use to Warm 2 but I feel it's the correct setting on my Sony 60NX810. WOW does not do White Balance. Make sure to use the blue filter for your color and hue.
post #582 of 662
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Originally Posted by eRob View Post

If your Sony tv has a setting called Clear White then turn that on while using Warm 2. That will make your whites more blue. It takes awhile to get use to Warm 2 but I feel it's the correct setting on my Sony 60NX810. WOW does not do White Balance. Make sure to use the blue filter for your color and hue.

My WOW blu ray calibration disc does the White and the Black adjustments.

Al
post #583 of 662
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Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

My WOW blu ray calibration disc does the White and the Black adjustments.

Al

That would be the CONTRAST and BRIGHTNESS adjustments I think.
post #584 of 662
White level=contrast=how bright whites are--set it too high and cream color becomes white.

Black level=Brightness=how dark black is--set it too low and dark gray becomes black.

The correct names for these settings are white level and black level, not contrast and brightness, if you look at what they actually do, or if you talk to a calibrator or video professional. The misnaming of these controls dates to the beginning of the tv era in the late 1940s. RCA, for a brief time in the 90s did use the proper terms.
post #585 of 662
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

That would be the CONTRAST and BRIGHTNESS adjustments I think.

Yeah, in the Optimize section in Video Calibration Tools there is an adjustment for Contrast and Brightness but in the Display Evaluation Tools there is an adjustment for Black and White clipping that also has a test area with a grey scale ramp. I don't know if this is what you're refering to but it's a cool tool to use and the ramp gives a pretty good indication of where the black and white levels are.

Click on Optimize-Display Evaluation Tools-LCD/Plasma (or the Monitor type that you have)-scroll down to White-Black Clipping.

This is probably a tool for novice users like me and other than this tool and the Brightness and Contrast adjustments in the Video Calibratrion Tools I don't know that there is anything else in this disc to adjust the black and white levels. There are some cool color and display patterns in the Expert section that I haven't messed with much.

Al
post #586 of 662
Thank you all for the answers, I'll try to stick with Warm 2 and get used to it....
post #587 of 662
This has probably been addressed somewhere in the previous 586 posts, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat question. What is the second disc in the two disc bluray set? And is it worth the extra $7? I'm looking at this vs this one. Thanks
post #588 of 662
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Originally Posted by DingoDog226 View Post

This has probably been addressed somewhere in the previous 586 posts, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat question. What is the second disc in the two disc bluray set? And is it worth the extra $7? I'm looking at this vs this one. Thanks

The second disc is called "Visions-Inspired By Nature" and is a sixty minutes of various "clips" that highlight the visual and audio of your HD set up. Some of the "clips" (actually a little longer than clips) are "Flower Fields", Forest Waterfalls", Desert Vistas'", and "Ripples".

I just skimmed through it because I thought, after awhile, it got boring. There are some pretty cool visuals and some folks might really enjoy it but I felt that sixty minutes was a little too much for me.

Al
post #589 of 662
I have having trouble getting the color calibrated. the furthest left and right bars I cannot get to match without turning color all the way up and when I do Blue looks crazy strong.. any advice?

Its a sharp aquos lc40-lx1
post #590 of 662
If this set is anything like other Sharp sets I have seen, the problem is with the set; how it reproduces blue and green. If there is a dealer nearby with several different makes of TVs on display, take your disc in and put the color bars up on the screen and compare the Sharp with other major brands; Sony, LG, Samsung etc. Make sure all sets are on cinema or movie setting and temp at warm 2. Some Sharp sets show blue so dark that there is not sufficient adjustment in the cms controls to correct it. Yours may be one of those.
post #591 of 662
The expert set of patterns contains the best black and white level patterns I have ever seen, BTW.
post #592 of 662
Amazon has multiple purchasing options and prices. Does one disc offer more tools over another or is it just different movies used for testing purposes? I see one bundle that is over $100.
post #593 of 662
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Originally Posted by Chad711 View Post

Amazon has multiple purchasing options and prices. Does one disc offer more tools over another or is it just different movies used for testing purposes? I see one bundle that is over $100.

There is a 2 disc or single disc version in either Blu Ray or DVD. The 2 disc version contains a sixty minute bonus disc called "Visions: Inspired By Nature". My 2 disc set defines "Visions" as: "Transform your home theater into a World of Wonder with exquisite natural and digitally created landscape, tranquil music, and the peaceful ambient sounds of nature".
I watched some of the bonus disc but got bored before I made it through the entire hour. Some of it looks and sounds pretty cool and helped me appreciate my new found calibration skills.

Other than the bonus disc and DVD as opposed to Blu Ray, there isn't any difference.


Al
post #594 of 662
Thank you
post #595 of 662
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Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

There is a 2 disc or single disc version in either Blu Ray or DVD. The 2 disc version contains a sixty minute bonus disc called "Visions: Inspired By Nature". My 2 disc set defines "Visions" as: "Transform your home theater into a World of Wonder with exquisite natural and digitally created landscape, tranquil music, and the peaceful ambient sounds of nature".
I watched some of the bonus disc but got bored before I made it through the entire hour. Some of it looks and sounds pretty cool and helped me appreciate my new found calibration skills.

Other than the bonus disc and DVD as opposed to Blu Ray, there isn't any difference.


Al

So then it's safe to say the 1 disc comes with the 52 page instructional booklet and the blue filter, right? All it'd be missing is the 2nd disc?

I'm about to make this purchase via Disney movie club and it's the 1 disc version but not sure.
post #596 of 662
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Originally Posted by I-C-Blue View Post

So then it's safe to say the 1 disc comes with the 52 page instructional booklet and the blue filter, right? All it'd be missing is the 2nd disc?

I'm about to make this purchase via Disney movie club and it's the 1 disc version but not sure.

I can only guess that it does because I only own the 2 disc version so someone with the single disc would have to chime in. Although, it wouldn't make sense if the single disc version didn't have the instructions and blue filter.

Al
post #597 of 662
1 disc is exactly the same...comes with blue filter and instructions.
post #598 of 662
post #599 of 662
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Originally Posted by winduptoy View Post

If this set is anything like other Sharp sets I have seen, the problem is with the set; how it reproduces blue and green. If there is a dealer nearby with several different makes of TVs on display, take your disc in and put the color bars up on the screen and compare the Sharp with other major brands; Sony, LG, Samsung etc. Make sure all sets are on cinema or movie setting and temp at warm 2. Some Sharp sets show blue so dark that there is not sufficient adjustment in the cms controls to correct it. Yours may be one of those.

It is interesting that you mention this because I have a sharp and when using the blue filter I ended up pushing the color and the tint in favor of green fairly high. My question is when I am setting the color and tint with the blue filter, what should I have my color gamut set to: standard or wide? My source is a ps3 with the RGB set to limited I believe, if that helps.

The picture looks somewhat saturated but not like the old "coloring out of the lines" saturation that you would get if you bumped color up too high.
post #600 of 662
Is it worth buying this blu-ray? I have a Sony hw50es and out of the box I think it looks great, of course I'm also just in awe of the huge picture and great look of the projector.

Every now and then we rent a color meter (not sure the exact term) for our media at the church, just wait for that or is this something you use more than once? Maybe I find someone local to ATL and borrow it?

Oh, and is the Disney WOW product the best one? Seems like it from the conversations here.
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