AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Rear Projection Units › 92" Mitsubishi DLP @ CES!!!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

92" Mitsubishi DLP @ CES!!! - Page 9

post #241 of 1910
Your correct about the height of the stand. 11 to 12 inches is what I'm looking at to get the center of the 92" display eye level. I'm going with smaller speakers all around: smaller front to fit in the cabinet and smaller main speakers to fit on the sides. My current speakers will be too large to fit along side the 92" HDTV in the space I have available. I may have to angle to center speaker up a little but not sure yet. I've read it's recommended that the distance between the tweeters of the main speakers and those of the center speaker not exceed 2'. Will have to see if that's possible with the 92" screen. I plan on making the 'short' cabinet as wide as or wider than the 92" HDTV to hopefully cram all of my components into it.
post #242 of 1910
Still no updates...come on Mitsubishi! We want to know more about this sucker!
post #243 of 1910
[quote=Wesley Hester;20392851 I've read it's recommended that the distance between the tweeters of the main speakers and those of the center speaker not exceed 2'. Will have to see if that's possible with the 92" screen. I plan on making the 'short' cabinet as wide as or wider than the 92" HDTV to hopefully cram all of my components into it.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't even worry about that 2' distance.
post #244 of 1910
It was just a recommendation from a component or speaker manual somewhere.

I believe leveled or close to leveled speakers are meant to help with sound that pans around so it always comes from the same plane. Also, if it didn't matter much, there wouldn't be height channel speakers, Dolby Pro-Logic IIz, etc.
post #245 of 1910
I have found through a lot of experimenting, that the very best place for a center channel speaker is middle of the display, directly behind it (out of sight) , angled slightly up along the contour of the display. Or directly behind and slightly above the top of the display, angled down toward the primary listening position. IMO that produces the most accurate center image.
post #246 of 1910
I wonder what the guys with Front projectors and screens do if they are not on a platform; how hight is the screen off the floor? A lot of those screens are 110" or more, I guess they must have a much larger room. My room is about 16' wide by 25' long. I use the width direction. I am currently sitting about 11' from the screen (73") which is just a little far for the immersive feeling I would like and figure I could get with the 92". I use a 1.5x the diagonal divided by 12" to estimate the sitting distance in feet. Is anyone using something different? My main speakers are about 10' apart and I don't think I would need to move them but I'm still vexed by the center channel issue. Could the 92" be on a higher stand but tilted forward?
post #247 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrelbelly View Post
I have found through a lot of experimenting, that the very best place for a center channel speaker is middle of the display, directly behind it (out of sight) , angled slightly up along the contour of the display. Or directly behind and slightly above the top of the display, angled down toward the primary listening position. IMO that produces the most accurate center image.
No way a center speaker behind the set sounds proper, of course if you have a crappy center it's gonna sound like crap no matter where it's put.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishLord82 View Post
I wonder what the guys with Front projectors and screens do if they are not on a platform; how hight is the screen off the floor? A lot of those screens are 110" or more, I guess they must have a much larger room. My room is about 16' wide by 25' long. I use the width direction. I am currently sitting about 11' from the screen (73") which is just a little far for the immersive feeling I would like and figure I could get with the 92". I use a 1.5x the diagonal divided by 12" to estimate the sitting distance in feet. Is anyone using something different? My main speakers are about 10' apart and I don't think I would need to move them but I'm still vexed by the center channel issue. Could the 92" be on a higher stand but tilted forward?
http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/10...o-screen-size/
post #248 of 1910
I currently sit about 11' eyeball to screen with an 82" ( a great set) and the
set is on a stand 16" high, and I think its just about perfect. I am going with the 92" which is about 5" higher and am just planning on moving back
about 18 more inches.
post #249 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishLord82 View Post

I wonder what the guys with Front projectors and screens do if they are not on a platform; how hight is the screen off the floor? A lot of those screens are 110" or more, I guess they must have a much larger room. My room is about 16' wide by 25' long. I use the width direction. I am currently sitting about 11' from the screen (73") which is just a little far for the immersive feeling I would like and figure I could get with the 92". I use a 1.5x the diagonal divided by 12" to estimate the sitting distance in feet. Is anyone using something different? My main speakers are about 10' apart and I don't think I would need to move them but I'm still vexed by the center channel issue. Could the 92" be on a higher stand but tilted forward?

it's easy for projector, i just project the same size image on the wall then move it up or down using the remote until it's at the right height based on my seating height/distance to screen. Then install the screen at that height.

Most good tv stands have adjustable legs, u can use that to adjust the height of the tv, although it's painful.
post #250 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by gagaliya View Post

Most good tv stands have adjustable legs, u can use that to adjust the height of the tv, although it's painful.

Not true and if they did it would just be for leveling purposes not to raise and lower it.
post #251 of 1910
Is Model# WD-73640 new for 2011 as well as Model# WD-737640? ....I have found this last night http://www.sears.com/shc/s/c_10153_12605_Computers+%26+Electronics_Televisions?filter=S creen+Size|60%2B+inches^new|30&sName=View+All&viewItems=25&subCatView=true
post #252 of 1910
well no sure if the link works,...but go to the store and look for them
post #253 of 1910
From the info on the Sears website, Mitsubishi isn't increasing the bulb wattage for the 82" line. Hmmm. . . that makes me doubtful that there will be a bigger bulb for the 92". If they don't increase the brightness somehow for the 92" it seems like you would be facing the same problem as projectors; only good in a Batcave, lol.
post #254 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by nmaki View Post

From the info on the Sears website, Mitsubishi isn't increasing the bulb wattage for the 82" line. Hmmm. . . that makes me doubtful that there will be a bigger bulb for the 92". If they don't increase the brightness somehow for the 92" it seems like you would be facing the same problem as projectors; only good in a Batcave, lol.


Where are you guys seeing 2011 models on Sears? I looked and saw only 2010 models.

I bet they increase the wattage in the 92, but you never know.
post #255 of 1910
Look's like at this link you can find all the models for the 2011 Mits RPTV line up

http://www.synnex.com/vendors/MITSUB...S_AMERICA.html

Here they are...

WD-73640
STEP UP 740 SERIES 73IN 1080P 3D HDTV WD-73740
STEP UP 740 SERIES 82IN 1080P 3D HDTV WD-82740
DIAMOND SERIES 840 73IN 1080P 3D HDTV WD-73840
DIAMOND SERIES 840 82IN 1080P 3D HDTV WD-82840
DIAMOND SERIES 840 92IN 1080P 3D HDTV WD-92840

Not sure if that's the complete list of their RPTV 2011 line up but it look's like at least maybe most of it.
post #256 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

Where are you guys seeing 2011 models on Sears? I looked and saw only 2010 models.

I bet they increase the wattage in the 92, but you never know.

Here ya go tai

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...92000P?prdNo=5
post #257 of 1910
Look's like Kmart has some of the 2011's also.

http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/s_10151_1...=1304989356503
post #258 of 1910
Right you guys are.

So there is an 840 series above that.

They will be slaves to EnergyStar, and misguided engineers to boot if they don't put a better wattage bulb in the 92.

After a while, everything's going to look like an X-Files episode.
post #259 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by colour View Post

No way a center speaker behind the set sounds proper, of course if you have a crappy center it's gonna sound like crap no matter where it's put.



http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/10...o-screen-size/

What is "proper"? Crappy Center? Nice touch. Here is a novel idea. Try it before blasting it. You may just discover it works.
post #260 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrelbelly View Post

What is "proper"? Crappy Center? Nice touch. Here is a novel idea. Try it before blasting it. You may just discover it works.

A center speaker is not supposed to be blocked in any fashion and should be pointed in the direction of the listener, more than likely it will sound like it's coming out of a cave. That's what I said crappy center. Would you know the difference? Probably not. Evidently you don't realize there is such a thing as proper speaker placement.

Here's a novel idea....how about I don't waste my time placing my speakers in improper positions if you think it sounds good go for it but it's not "proper".
post #261 of 1910
So if the 82740 retails at $3500, what are the chances of the 92840 coming in at $5000? Zero?
post #262 of 1910
So now that some websites are putting up some info on the 2011 series TVs, when will Mits put up their official info? Nothing on their website yet, and I attempted to change a URL to match the new model numbers but that fails also. I'm seriously considering an 82738 since the prices are so low right now. I'd like to know if there is anything new this year that improves video. So far it looks like the new features are limited to internet streaming, which isn't that significant to me at the moment. I also wonder if when they start to show up in stock if that will drop the price further on the 2010 models.

Oh, and there's no way hiding a center behind an RPTV could possibly sound good. That's the worst idea I've ever heard of for speaker placement. Why not put it in another room? The best is behind an acoustically transparent screen, other than that it's ideal to have the drivers be away from any obstructions, so not behind the TV at all. Above or below, angled based on the angle to the listening position is ideal.
post #263 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by yadfgp View Post

Look's like Kmart has some of the 2011's also.

http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/s_10151_1...=1304989356503

iPhone and iPad compatible? WT? More useless added crap to jack up the price.

Edit: Did just notice that Mits' parts site has listing for the new models. Unfortunately no replacement bulbs for the 92" listed.

Edit 2:
Quote:


Even features a built in 3D emitter! All you need are just the glasses!

Edit 3: L75-A94? New version of the Laservue as well? Hmm. Wonder what's new there.
post #264 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post

So if the 82740 retails at $3500, what are the chances of the 92840 coming in at $5000? Zero?

I'd always heard in early publicity that it would be around $6000 retail, with real world pricing below that.
post #265 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

I'd always heard in early publicity that it would be around $6000 retail, with real world pricing below that.

That makes sense since the MSRP on the 82840 will most likely be something like $4500, which would push the MSRP for the 92840 to around $6000.
post #266 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsr View Post

That makes sense since the MSRP on the 82840 will most likely be something like $4500, which would push the MSRP for the 92840 to around $6000.

As we all idly speculate, in the absence of information, any guess on the bulb wattage of the 92, gsr?
post #267 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

As we all idly speculate, in the absence of information, any guess on the bulb wattage of the 92, gsr?

My guess would be that the bulb wattage will be >= (greater than or equal to) the wattage of the bulb they use in the 82840. Seriously though, I have absolutely no idea what they'll go with.
post #268 of 1910
There is an issue with the lamp size that most people have not considered. While we would almost all agree that current lamp size is already marginal on the 82' sets, you have to undersand that means lamp replacements will have to be done much sooner. You just don't have any spare illuniation. While the lamp will happily go 7, 8 maybe 9 thouand hours the set will start to get very dim over 3 thousand hours. I ordered a new lamp for my 82837 at about 3800 hours, it was dark, dark, dark!

The same amount of illumination generated by the current wattage lamps would be a serious problem on a 92" screen all other factors being the same. We don't know if the new screen has a higher gain. Perhaps it does, but using the same size lamp would narrow the sweet spot dramatically if the extra illumination required was achieved by screen gain alone.
post #269 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtgray View Post

There is an issue with the lamp size that most people have not considered. While we would almost all agree that current lamp size is already marginal on the 82' sets, you have to undersand that means lamp replacements will have to be done much sooner. You just don't have any spare illuniation. While the lamp will happily go 7, 8 maybe 9 thouand hours the set will start to get very dim over 3 thousand hours. I ordered a new lamp for my 82837 at about 3800 hours, it was dark, dark, dark!

The same amount of illumination generated by the current wattage lamps would be a serious problem on a 92" screen all other factors being the same. We don't know if the new screen has a higher gain. Perhaps it does, but using the same size lamp would narrow the sweet spot dramatically if the extra illumination required was achieved by screen gain alone.

Well, we do know from publicity thus far that the screen is a "Clear Contrast" screen, that makes better use of the illumination supplied, but it would still be an odd decision if Mits decided not to use a stronger light source for a much larger screen.

They sure are tight-lipped.
post #270 of 1910
Quote:
Originally Posted by nmaki View Post

From the info on the Sears website, Mitsubishi isn't increasing the bulb wattage for the 82" line. Hmmm. . . that makes me doubtful that there will be a bigger bulb for the 92". If they don't increase the brightness somehow for the 92" it seems like you would be facing the same problem as projectors; only good in a Batcave, lol.

I heard and it maybe incorrect that the new 92' tv will use a duel lamp setup to achieve the desired brightness.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Rear Projection Units
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Rear Projection Units › 92" Mitsubishi DLP @ CES!!!