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post #121 of 1817
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Looking back through the lens of hindisght, the lack of the 60s and 65s should give one more than pause. They really didn't ship but a few thousand 65s in all of 2010. Will 2011 be different? Sure, but how different. Further certainty that the 75 is likely to be mythic this year.

The big 70''+ lcds announced by LG and Vizio turned out to be vaporware last year. You have to give it to Samsung for at least getting their 65'' lcds out in stores. Those tvs are expensive with a small market, so don't expect them to produce mass quantities or find reasonable deals on them ether.
post #122 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

Because its edge lit I will never beat the best plasma, the micro dimming is just marketing BS, I have the c8000 and can tell you the precision dimming is marketing BS, its there but doesn't have any real world improvement. I can see how the new setup could help with flashlighting for letter box movies, but beyond that no real improvement. I do want one tho, I was looking into plasma but my brother uses my TV to watch Netflix shows with a lot of 4x3 content. That makes me nervous for IR and other issues, I know just kick him off it but he does 90% of this when I at work.

Plasma might have a slight edge in PQ but as far as a versatile set that will work in a room with windows I dont think its going to get better than this (This year).
post #123 of 1817
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Looking back through the lens of hindisght, the lack of the 60s and 65s should give one more than pause. They really didn't ship but a few thousand 65s in all of 2010. Will 2011 be different? Sure, but how different. Further certainty that the 75 is likely to be mythic this year.

Per my earlier comment it sounded like there was more demand then supply this year so it should be more redly available if the samsung rep on the floor at CES should be believed.

I agree that the 75 is likely vaporware though
post #124 of 1817
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Originally Posted by amjustice View Post

Per my earlier comment it sounded like there was more demand then supply this year so it should be more redly available if the samsung rep on the floor at CES should be believed.

I agree that the 75 is likely vaporware though

If it isn't vaporware though, it will make Westa a very happy man.


If Samsung can match their input lag from their plasma sets on their LCDs this year, they may just get me to convert, again.
post #125 of 1817
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

If it isn't vaporware though, it will make Westa a very happy man.


If Samsung can match their input lag from their plasma sets on their LCDs this year, they may just get me to convert, again.

Got $10K or more to drop on it?
post #126 of 1817
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Originally Posted by amjustice View Post

Got $10K or more to drop on it?

Nope, I was talking about LCD in general for me (follow up to the c630 probably), I only mentioned the 75" for Westa, it would make him really happy if it did come out.
post #127 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

If you want to test your TVs dimming capabilities, black levels I highly recommend watching this movie in the dark. The dimming works just not as effective as a true local dimming TV would.

I never denied that a full dimming Set ist better. But you said there is no diffrence between on and off - and this is something I deny.
post #128 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

The big 70''+ lcds announced by LG and Vizio turned out to be vaporware last year. You have to give it to Samsung for at least getting their 65'' lcds out in stores. Those tvs are expensive with a small market, so don't expect them to produce mass quantities or find reasonable deals on them ether.

They are expensive because they can't build them cost effectively and so they restrict them to a small market by charging a small fortune.

It's not accurate to see the market is small so they charge more. They charge more because they can't charge less. And this keeps the market small.

Panasonic has a 65-inch display that costs $2,000 or so because they can build it for $400 or so. When Samsung can build a 65-inch LCD so cheaply, the prices will fall and the market will grow.
post #129 of 1817
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Originally Posted by darkvader View Post

I never denied that a full dimming Set ist better. But you said there is no diffrence between on and off - and this is something I deny.

You are right I did say that, I meant I felt it didn't really improve PQ much when on in my opinion. When you get the waterfall effect you know its working. If you turn it off the TV produces a even picture and some would say that is better.There is a difference but its debatable if its better.
post #130 of 1817
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

They are expensive because they can't build them cost effectively and so they restrict them to a small market by charging a small fortune.

It's not accurate to see the market is small so they charge more. They charge more because they can't charge less. And this keeps the market small.

Panasonic has a 65-inch display that costs $2,000 or so because they can build it for $400 or so. When Samsung can build a 65-inch LCD so cheaply, the prices will fall and the market will grow.

True if they were cheaper a lot more people would buy them, it is a small market because they are expensive not because people don't want them.
post #131 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post


True if they were cheaper a lot more people would buy them, it is a small market because they are expensive not because people don't want them.

I am putting away my pennies now for a 65". Do you guys think those will see release in March/April with the other sets or will they be later? Also are there stores online that typically get sets soon after they are released?
post #132 of 1817
http://t.co/4bSGd8V

Drool, hopefully it will follow what he says and they will all be available in April
post #133 of 1817
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Originally Posted by amjustice View Post

I am putting away my pennies now for a 65". Do you guys think those will see release in March/April with the other sets or will they be later? Also are there stores online that typically get sets soon after they are released?

I got my c8000 last April, so I see them releasing the new tvs by then. As for the 65'' it released late and in short supply last year. I would think the bigger 60''+ sets won't come out as soon as the 55'' and smaller sets. I plan on getting at least the 60'' and hope its out day to day with the other sets, I can't wait.
post #134 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

I got my c8000 last April, so I see them releasing the new tvs by then. As for the 65'' it released late and in short supply last year. I would think the bigger 60''+ sets won't come out as soon as the 55'' and smaller sets. I plan on getting at least the 60'' and hope its out day to day with the other sets, I can't wait.

Fingers crossed, if the 60 is out right away and the 65 is going to be much longer I might just go 60
post #135 of 1817
Well the samsung rep in that video at ces said it would release in all those sizes including 65" in "the April time frame" whatever that means.

While last year the 65c8000 were both made (nov.) and released (dec.) late in the year and in short supply, maybe 2011 d series will be different with the 65" out at same time as other sizes.

Making the 65c8000 seem like a test as the first model in that size. Its like getting the first year of a new model car and the next year they make improvements.

May return my 65c8000 and wait till april but i got a good (not amazon great) price and while i like thin bezel i may like having one 65c8000 for silver and clear bezel in secondary room and one 65d8000 for the improvements.

one thing about super thin bezel is the tv will look even smaller so they really should Have made a 72" to compete with LG.

If the LG 72" comes out before samsung 65d8000, sam will lose unless price much lower, which judging by the 65c8000 over inflated price, that isnt likely.
post #136 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Quatre View Post

Well the samsung rep in that video at ces said it would release in all those sizes including 65" in "the April time frame" whatever that means.

While last year the 65c8000 were both made (nov.) and released (dec.) late in the year and in short supply, maybe 2011 d series will be different with the 65" out at same time as other sizes.

Making the 65c8000 seem like a test as the first model in that size. Its like getting the first year of a new model car and the next year they make improvements.

May return my 65c8000 and wait till april but i got a good (not amazon great) price and while i like thin bezel i may like having one 65c8000 for silver and clear bezel in secondary room and one 65d8000 for the improvements.

one thing about super thin bezel is the tv will look even smaller so they really should Have made a 72" to compete with LG.

If the LG 72" comes out before samsung 65d8000, sam will lose unless price much lower, which judging by the 65c8000 over inflated price, that isnt likely.

samsung has their 75'' d9500 coming, it looks like a c8000. If and when it comes out will be the question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1EQ1Niaiw
post #137 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post


samsung has their 75'' d9500 coming, it looks like a c8000. If and when it comes out will be the question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1EQ1Niaiw

Oh nice, cus im worried the sam 3d glasses wont work with the LG 72" or sharp 70" both full matrix led 3d lcd's.

Why sam only does edge lit sucks but wr all know that. Did one full led and tjen discontinued. Supposedly LG sued samsung & sony successfully blockoming them from making full led. But now ppl say it isnt they arent allowed but actually choose not to.

Would love to have a 75d9500 with same look as current 65c8000 with silver bezel and clear trim cus its not bad though silver seeems early 2000's but everything black now and the silver c8000's arent bad looking. Seems you would want thinner bezel with larger 75" tv but maybe they cant.

But the 9500 model # scares me as the 55c9000 was 9k at release as it had the touch screen remote and whatever else.

So 9500 reminds me of the 8500 with full led which as a 9000 model plus full led 9500 at 75" would by samsungs over inflated prices be well over 10k and not worth it.

Juat would be nice to have one of each for the 2 diff sizes and bezel style but again would prefer the 75" had the thin bezel.

In the video the guy says its coming and not just a prototype but then says no price or release date as their still thinking about it. My bet would be that it doesnt come out and if it does it will be at the end of the year in short supply as an almost test model like the 65c8000. Which makes me think i dont want the first year of a new model/size again.

As it is I have to consider returning my 65c8000 which I got a good deal on and use a 67" dlp again on the meantime till the 65d8000 comes out in April hopefully with no delay.

Meantime LG 72" full led will be out by then so edgelit and 7" smaller sam 65d8000 will be bleh. And sharp also full led 3d lcd 70" for under 5k this summer.
Then possible Vizio 72" using same LG panel which was first announced kver a year ago for $3500 is why LG didnt give them the panel because it would have beat their own 72" out at less then half the price.

We'll see. Meantime there is no 3d tv larger then 65" and sam 65c8000 is still the kargest 3d led lcd which is a shame. Pan 65" 3d plasma has been out for around 2 yrs And top rated but no announcement from them about a larger one.
post #138 of 1817
Thread Starter 
Has anyone heard whether the D7000/8000 will have RVU technology -- allowing cable/sat receiverless access to a central RVU server for live and DVR'd content? So for only the 6000 series TVs have been announced as RVU clients.
post #139 of 1817
Hi All,

I believe Samsung stated at CES 2011 that it had partnered with Real-D & would be providing 3D Passive Sets with "RDZ" technology - is this employed on the 2011 Sets & does anyone know which ones?

Bazzy!
post #140 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Quatre View Post

Why sam only does edge lit sucks but wr all know that. Did one full led and tjen discontinued. Supposedly LG sued samsung & sony successfully blockoming them from making full led. But now ppl say it isnt they arent allowed but actually choose not to.

Dude, you are a total basket case. Get your facts straight before spreading all this misinformation. You have over almost 1400 posts here, so you really don't have any excuse.

First of all, Samsung made more than 1 locally-dimmed LED before quitting. They offered one at least three years in a row. A950 was before the B8500, and before the A950 was the 81F if I'm not mistaken.

Secondly, it was Sharp, not LG that sued Samsung.

Sony continues to make locally-dimmed LED's, and so do a number of other manufacturers. (LG, Vizio, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba, Philips, etc.) Sharp does not own some magical all-encompassing patent that prevents Samsung or anyone else from doing locally-dimmed LED's if they wanted to.
post #141 of 1817
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

Dude, you are a total basket case. Get your facts straight before spreading all this misinformation. You have over almost 1400 posts here, so you really don't have any excuse.

First of all, Samsung made more than 1 locally-dimmed LED before quitting. They offered one at least three years in a row. A950 was before the B8500, and before the A950 was the 81F if I'm not mistaken.

Secondly, it was Sharp, not LG that sued Samsung.

Sony continues to make locally-dimmed LED's, and so do a number of other manufacturers. (LG, Vizio, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba, Philips, etc.) Sharp does not own some magical all-encompassing patent that prevents Samsung or anyone else from doing locally-dimmed LED's if they wanted to.

Thats a rumor I've heard more then a few times. Samsung doesn't do full led tvs bacause its cheaper to make edge lit and they make more money on them. Its clear as day, Samsungs edge led tvs are top notch. Alto its clear people want them to make a full led tv, they have moved on to just edge led and making plenty of profits off them.
post #142 of 1817
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Originally Posted by koffas View Post

Has anyone heard whether the D7000/8000 will have RVU technology -- allowing cable/sat receiverless access to a central RVU server for live and DVR'd content? So for only the 6000 series TVs have been announced as RVU clients.

It seems weird to me that they would do this on a lower end set but not the top of the line. Maybe they want to get it out there and test it before putting it on their best stuff?
post #143 of 1817
I'm fairly sure RVU is on very limited models this year. I can't promise this -- in part because getting a clear answer out of Samsung was like pulling teeth out of a rhino -- but it seemed that way.
post #144 of 1817
Anyone have the dimensions of the UN60D8000? I've got a niche in my wall and I think it will be a close fit to replace my current 55" B series Samsung. I didn't have a tape measure with me at CES but gee that TV looks great.
post #145 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Plasman View Post

Anyone have the dimensions of the UN60D8000? I've got a niche in my wall and I think it will be a close fit to replace my current 55" B series Samsung. I didn't have a tape measure with me at CES but gee that TV looks great.

They didn't even have the 60 at CES. I think you would prob be safe in subtracting 1-1 1/2 inches from last years sets maybe even more. No way to know until they put out the official specs in a month or two
post #146 of 1817
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Originally Posted by amjustice View Post

They didn't even have the 60 at CES. I think you would prob be safe in subtracting 1-1 1/2 inches from last years sets maybe even more. No way to know until they put out the official specs in a month or two

Thanks. Good idea. My niche is 32.75 x 54.75 and the current UN60C6400 is 33.1 x 55.5 so I should be good and then some....
post #147 of 1817
Exclusive first look review from Which? on the D8000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAeK1PJMtPQ
post #148 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

Exclusive first look review from Which? on the D8000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAeK1PJMtPQ

Thanks for posting this, not a lot of new news but good to here some further positive thoughts towards this set.
post #149 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

Exclusive first look review from Which? on the D8000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAeK1PJMtPQ

No mention of the 65" just 60" as the largest at least from what they say at beginning of video when listing the sizes.
post #150 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Quatre View Post

No mention of the 65" just 60" as the largest at least from what they say at beginning of video when listing the sizes.

I have seen reports of just the 60" then some of the 65". I don't know what to believe, I will just assume there will be an 65" as they already have a 65" c8000.
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