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post #331 of 1817
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Originally Posted by khoop View Post

god I hope its available in march.

I was thinking the same thing, March is next month. Last year it was mid April when the C8000 came out to most retailers. I hope they do hit stores next month, but I got a feeling it will be June/July or later before the 60D8000 becomes available. I really want a 60'' but I may get a 55'' because I'm impatient, I could go with a 55'' as my tv now is 46''.
post #332 of 1817
I see the 55d6000 is out now and selling at a couple spots for $1899, I guess that makes our 55d8000 probably priced at $3000+. I was holding out hope for a sub $3000 price tag but I'm thinking it will be closer to $3500.
post #333 of 1817
I just wish they would release some specs!!! I want to get a new 32" for the bedroom and want to know if I should wait and get what I want in a new model or take advantage of the great deals on the older sets.
post #334 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Edge lit will never provide the same benefit as a local dimming set. Ever.

I have heard a lot of criticism of the local dimming sets saying that they have a halo effect around the dimmed areas and sometimes see increased input lag due to the local dimming.

I didnt see the sonys at CES but I saw the LG local dimming top end set and was unimpressed. From what I could tell the Samsung D8000 looked much better, had deeper blacks and much crisper picture.
post #335 of 1817
An edge lit set would NEVER have deeper blacks then a local dimming set. It just is't possible. Edge lit is just cheaper to make. That's the only reason it's in the market. Cheaper to make and thinner sets. IDK why Samsung didn't go with a local dimming led set this year. Same BS mistake they made last year. LG did Manage darker blacks then Samsung (as well as Sony) but i do not like there LED sets.
post #336 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

An edge lit set would NEVER have deeper blacks then a local dimming set. It just is't possible. Edge lit is just cheaper to make. That's the only reason it's in the market. Cheaper to make and thinner sets. IDK why Samsung didn't go with a local dimming led set this year. Same BS mistake they made last year. LG did Manage darker blacks then Samsung (as well as Sony) but i do not like there LED sets.

Like you said cheaper to make which equals more profit for Samsung to stay with edge lit led. With their micro dimming they get the best of both worlds in their eyes. Not saying this edge lit dimming fully compares to a full led dimming TV, I don't mind as I don't watch TV in a bat cave without all the lights off. I have considered LGs nano TV, but who knows how they will compare or will be priced. At this point I've got money to burn, but I don't see spending 4k+ for a 55" like the lx9500 was priced.
post #337 of 1817
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Originally Posted by gagit811 View Post

Like you said cheaper to make which equals more profit for Samsung to stay with edge lit led. With their micro dimming they get the best of both worlds in their eyes. Not saying this edge lit dimming fully compares to a full led dimming TV, I don't mind as I don't watch TV in a bat cave without all the lights off. I have considered LGs nano TV, but who knows how they will compare or will be priced. At this point I've got money to burn, but I don't see spending 4k+ for a 55" like the lx9500 was priced.

The LG was overpriced galore. Still is. It's to bad all tech has flaws. In my eyes. They have gotten close to perfect with all techs. But all end up having downsides. Plasma is pretty much perfected. Downside on there (best of best case) is rising blacks and the worst bright viewing out there.

Then you have LCD/LED. It's gotten amazing in the past few years. Slower motion and off angle viewing. Big downsides.

RPTV. To many downsides to say. Maybe OLED will get rid off all downsides but will have one hell of a price. Time will tell I guess.
post #338 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

An edge lit set would NEVER have deeper blacks then a local dimming set. It just is't possible. Edge lit is just cheaper to make. That's the only reason it's in the market. Cheaper to make and thinner sets. IDK why Samsung didn't go with a local dimming led set this year. Same BS mistake they made last year. LG did Manage darker blacks then Samsung (as well as Sony) but i do not like there LED sets.

Local dimming is a checkbox on a spec sheet. There are so many other factors that contribute to the quality of the picture. I think it would be foolish to decide on a tv solely based on local dimming vs edge.

We will see when the reviews hit but the Samsung c8000 was praised by reviewers last year. We will see what they say this year
post #339 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

The LG was overpriced galore. Still is. It's to bad all tech has flaws. In my eyes. They have gotten close to perfect with all techs. But all end up having downsides. Plasma is pretty much perfected. Downside on there (best of best case) is rising blacks and the worst bright viewing out there.

Then you have LCD/LED. It's gotten amazing in the past few years. Slower motion and off angle viewing. Big downsides.

RPTV. To many downsides to say. Maybe OLED will get rid off all downsides but will have one hell of a price. Time will tell I guess.

OLED has more cons then pros right now, but overall can yield deeper blacks but has more things holding the tech back to really list. It would be great if they can get it off the ground for things other then small had held devices. I'll stick with LCD for now.
post #340 of 1817
i absolutely love my ln52b750, but the second the 75" comes out, i'm upgrading.
post #341 of 1817
It seems like a common question for lots of people is "do I buy a 2010 model at a year end discount or do I wait and buy a 2011 model about to come out?"

In summary, it seems like the best answer at this point is:

"Wait and buy a 2011 model about to come out."

You're welcome!
post #342 of 1817
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Originally Posted by HamsterFace View Post

It seems like a common question for lots of people is "do I buy a 2010 model at a year end discount or do I wait and buy a 2011 model about to come out?"

In summary, it seems like the best answer at this point is:

"Wait and buy a 2011 model about to come out."

You're welcome!

Why? So they can also wait for the 2011 to drop down in price when the 2012 models are coming?

TAKE IT NOW. Why wait and pay a premium at first release.
post #343 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

An edge lit set would NEVER have deeper blacks then a local dimming set. It just is't possible. Edge lit is just cheaper to make. That's the only reason it's in the market. Cheaper to make and thinner sets. IDK why Samsung didn't go with a local dimming led set this year. Same BS mistake they made last year. LG did Manage darker blacks then Samsung (as well as Sony) but i do not like there LED sets.

At least in their mockup demo at the CES for D series Samsung was showing their new Micro Dimming Plus as equivalent to full array local dimming, there were 288 dimmable zones marked and the contrast ratio was specsed at 3 000 000 : 1. It is not known yet if this was real or marketing hype. If real, it would mean Samsung achieved local dimming with edge LEDs. One should also notice that in the D series LEDs are placed on sides, not top-bottom.
post #344 of 1817
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post


At least in their mockup demo at the CES for D series Samsung was showing their new Micro Dimming Plus as equivalent to full array local dimming, there were 288 dimmable zones marked and the contrast ratio was specsed at 3 000 000 : 1. It is not known yet if this was real or marketing hype. If real,
it would mean Samsung achieved local dimming with edge LEDs. One should also notice that in the D series LEDs are placed on sides, not top-bottom.

Samsung say how many zones they have? Now that doesn't sound like them at all. I do hope edge kit sets can match fully back lit sets. For now. They don't. Do I hope for a brighter future for them. I do. As of now. I just don't see it. To this day samsungs best set was there 8500 and there best plasma's were 2010 models. I do believe this year Samsung will shine with there 2011 models. But I believe that will be for there plasma line up. Not there LCD. I'm ok with that to.
post #345 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post


Why? So they can also wait for the 2011 to drop down in price when the 2012 models are coming?

TAKE IT NOW. Why wait and pay a premium at first release.

I couldn't agree more. Why pay to be the beta of something so pricey. Wait it out.
post #346 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post


I fully DISAGREE. Why pay to be the beta of something so pricey. Wait it out.

Huh? Did you mean to quote me?
post #347 of 1817
HD Guru had an article the other day that might help some of you decide to buy now or wait for the 11'

Link: Save On a 2010 Or Get a New 2011 HDTV?

I will be waiting. Even if the PQ is equal to the 10' sets, the newer features and the new frame are worth paying for I think. Just me though.
post #348 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Bambooben View Post

HD Guru had an article the other day that might help some of you decide to buy now or wait for the 11'

Link: Save On a 2010 Or Get a New 2011 HDTV?

I will be waiting. Even if the PQ is equal to the 10' sets, the newer features and the new frame are worth paying for I think. Just me though.

Me too, I want a newer D8000. I don't care about price so for those looking for a deal may want to get a 2010 tv. For me the new look plus features are worth waiting and paying a premium to get first. I may be a little bias as I own a 2010 C8000 and don't mind waiting for the newer sets as last years crop is old news to me. I would say if you're looking to get a great tv and save a buck just get last years tvs. If the budget is not too tight go ahead and wait as the new tvs are around the corner.
post #349 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Do-It-Yourself View Post

Huh? Did you mean to quote me?

No. I'm sorry about that. I couldn't agree more would go towards your statement.
post #350 of 1817
The issue I have is that while I dont mind waiting for the new sets, I want a 32" with 120Hz, I have no idea if one will even be released. I dont want to miss out on a great deal on a 2010 model only to find out I cant even get what I want in one of the newer models. I'm better off getting one now rather then getting basically the same thing at a higher price.
post #351 of 1817
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Originally Posted by amancalledsun View Post

The issue I have is that while I dont mind waiting for the new sets, I want a 32" with 120Hz, I have no idea if one will even be released. I dont want to miss out on a great deal on a 2010 model only to find out I cant even get what I want in one of the newer models. I'm better off getting one now rather then getting basically the same thing at a higher price.

Samsung is releasing two 120hz 32" models this year. The UN32D6400 and the UN32D6000. The D6000 has the internet apps and 120hz but doesn't have 3D and because of that it is cheaper than the D6400.
post #352 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Raven900 View Post

Samsung is releasing two 120hz 32" models this year. The UN32D6400 and the UN32D6000. The D6000 has the internet apps and 120hz but doesn't have 3D and because of that it is cheaper than the D6400.

And those are both LED models?? No 32" LCD Models?? I was hoping to get one at around $600 (It's just for the bedroom) but I fear the new models might be priced out my range.
post #353 of 1817
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Samsung say how many zones they have? Now that doesn't sound like them at all. I do hope edge kit sets can match fully back lit sets. For now. They don't. Do I hope for a brighter future for them. I do. As of now. I just don't see it.

Samsung keeps silent what is the Micro Dimming Plus. But you can see both video and pic of the mockup linked from this message. It is showing local dimming with well defined zones. The question is if this is just a marketing pitch bordering on fooling&cheating or not. Without knowing the details of the tech behind, no answer. This does not seem to be just plain standard edge-lit however.
post #354 of 1817
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post

Samsung keeps silent what is the Micro Dimming Plus. But you can see both video and pic of the mockup linked from this message. It is showing local dimming with well defined zones. The question is if this is just a marketing pitch bordering on fooling&cheating or not. Without knowing the details of the tech behind, no answer. This does not seem to be just plain standard edge-lit however.

When and if they ever make edge lit sets as good if not better then local dimming. I'll be the 1st to buy one. Until then. I can only sit and hope.
post #355 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

The first models have shown up !! The Samsung UN55D6000 is up and out, no info or pics yet though. ( LOL )

Chris-
Any word whether or not the 60" CCFL LN60C630 or equivalent will still be manufactured in 2011? I can't find that model in stock anywhere. I bought one in December and really like it. I'm still leery of the edge-lit LEDs...
Thanks-
post #356 of 1817
Depending on where you are in making a near-term purchase, be advised that the 46" C6900 (precission dimming) provides a WONDERFUL HD television viewing picture.
post #357 of 1817
I just started looking this week to buy two new TV's (both Samsungs) and I've found that I am choosing at an odd time as the new '11's are on their way out. I figured I might be able to get some good deals on the '10's, but I am finding either no deals (on the UN55C6800 and LN32C530) or no stock and am now wondering if I should just wait the next few weeks for the '11's.

In the end, I think I am going to bite the bullet and get the LN32C530 since it will be for my office and not used for heavy-duty watching and I'll wait on the UN55D7000 for the living room TV.

I hope these new models are worth the wait. The CES read-ups have been interesting.

Big thanks to AVS, you always come through with great research and links while making decisions!
post #358 of 1817
The unD7000 has arrived to at least one online retailer hopefully the D8000's aren't far behind and aren't too much more expensive!!!
post #359 of 1817
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Originally Posted by marleebrz View Post

The unD7000 has arrived to at least one online retailer hopefully the D8000's aren't far behind and aren't too much more expensive!!!

Where?
post #360 of 1817
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Originally Posted by amjustice View Post

Where?

I cant find it anywheres..
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