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post #211 of 990
Been using my 103" screen for almost 3 months now. Paired up with the Epson 8350 the image quality is fantastic. The build of the screen border was definitely not perfect. But it's worth what I paid for it. To my guests it looks incredible so that's great!
I did have to re-tighten the screen fabric after about a month, could be the season change, easy fix! Other than that I don't have any complaints!
post #212 of 990
I've had my 110" screen for about a week. One board was warped and I was afraid it would cause a problem but when the frame was all put together it worked itself out. I do think it is affecting the screen to lay flush on all sides though, but not enough to demand a replacement board. Stretching the screen wasn't too bad but did take two people. I do have some very minor wrinkles on the lower left side but they are very hard to detect and does not affect the image or movement of the image. Overall I'm happy for the value of the price. It did take me a minute to figure out how the hangman bracket worked. I wish there was a picture or arrows to point which side to face up. This would have saved me some time. The velvet really does absorb a lot of the overlapping light. I also think the center brace is mounted too far in front of the screen. it causes some rippling to the bottom center of the screen material even after trying to restretch it. The top center turned out fine. I didn't cut off the extra tabs but folded them in and taped to hold in place.

Coming from a doable board, I had to back off the blue cuts in my projector by two clicks for this screen. Other than that, the other settings were fairly close. For future buyers, I would add this to your list of screens and to take into consideration the LONG turnaround time. It took about 25 days including weekends for me. The custom DIY craftsmanship which will have imperfections. The price is what is very attractive and for the overall value/performance makes this screen a winner!
post #213 of 990
I've had my 110 inch Jamestown for about two weeks now and it is epic. I haven't seen any of the $500+ screens, but the picture looks so good I don't know how much better a higher priced screen would really make it.

I love playing Xbox and watching Blu Rays on it.

I'm using an Epson 8350 and it's also pretty bad a
post #214 of 990
I am confused between selecting a white or a Gray screen for the Mits HC4000. Please look at my theater room settings in the pic. 14 ft distance between the Projector and screen.



I painted the wall white with black frames and i am not impressed. So i am planning to paint gray and see if it improves the pic quality. If not i am going to order a Jamestown white or Gray 120'' screen or Elite SableFrame or EzFrame White or Gray 120'' screens. Which do you think will fit my walls and carpet ? Now the movies look washed away. I want a crisp, vivid looking pic with good black levels. I was told to go for Gray screens. But i want a crisp looking pic with a pop. I am afraid the gray will make the screen dimmer. Please advice.

Note: I might paint red color to side walls & ceiling for about 4-6 feet and may be put a darker rug before the screen.
post #215 of 990
I was in this battle of white vs gray and I ended up going with white. The "pop" I believe would have been lost with a gray screen and I also think the shadow detail would have also been compromised with a gray screen. You'll have to decide which tradeoffs are more important to you. Deep blacks at the risk of losing shadow detail and "pop".

I do think an actual screen will do better than your white painted wall. Did you use a custom paint mixture that you can find in the DIY section? In my opinion, if you darken the area around your screen, it will only make your black level stand out more as not being black. I've done this in my room to the walls and ceiling. I still need to replace the carpet though.

post #216 of 990
Thread Starter 
Imo the best thing you could do would be to darken the wall and ceiling color the pic is getting washed out with that much reflectivity in the room. I painted my ceiling black and walls a dark blue with a dark carpet and coming from cream walls and a white ceiling the difference is epic.
post #217 of 990
i just put in some black blankets/screens on the side walls and the ceiling and the movie quality is awesome. Image is not washed away anymore. I see the pop without adjusting any settings. i love it. Thanksssssssssssssssssssssssssssss everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. I am so happy.
post #218 of 990
Thread Starter 
Happy Easter

Yeah it's amazing how much room reflections play a part in picture quality!!Congrats glad you're happy!
post #219 of 990
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Originally Posted by Quick Hands View Post

Happy Easter

Yeah it's amazing how much room reflections play a part in picture quality!!Congrats glad you're happy!

HUGE difference in quality when i went from a grey front wall to a dark blue. Then I replaced my ceiling tiles with acoustic black tiles but still had white grid. Made an even bigger difference. Then I took black non reflective gaffers tape and taped off all the white aluminum grid and BAM! It is sooooooo much better. Everyone wanted to know where I got black grid from and then I bring them close and show them that it is simply taped with black gaffers tape. You can NOT tell even looking at it from a foot away!
post #220 of 990
Hi,
Long time lurker but just wanted to thank you all for years of enjoyable reading.
After 3 years of shooting my trusty Panasonic PT-AX200u on a painted wall, I finally got around to ordering an Elite Sable 120" in the Cinewhite. To be honest I wasn't expecting to be this happy. The picture is stunning. Assembly was a breeze with help from my wife Hanging it on the wall took all of 15 minutes. I am so pleased with this purchase! Yes, Amazon rocks once again.

Happy viewing!
post #221 of 990
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Originally Posted by streamerlover View Post

HUGE difference in quality when i went from a grey front wall to a dark blue. Then I replaced my ceiling tiles with acoustic black tiles but still had white grid. Made an even bigger difference. Then I took black non reflective gaffers tape and taped off all the white aluminum grid and BAM! It is sooooooo much better. Everyone wanted to know where I got black grid from and then I bring them close and show them that it is simply taped with black gaffers tape. You can NOT tell even looking at it from a foot away!

Yeah from all the reading I've been doing and my own personal experience this is the most important upgrade you can make. Same color scheme I have dark blue wall and black ceiling really limits reflections and make the pic pop!
post #222 of 990
do the Jamestown screens come with wall mounts?
post #223 of 990
Thread Starter 
Yeah they come with hangmans brackets lots of talk in the thread about them and modifications to make them better.
post #224 of 990
Are the corners of the Jamestown screen borders mitre cut ?? I saw a few old photos that looked like they are box cut style, but i always find that mitre cut looks much classier... i may opt for the JT screen either way simply based on price point and the fact that i need a grey screen to battle some ambient light
post #225 of 990
The corners are not Mitre but but box style. The seams disappear in the light. I don't think you can do wrong with the Jamestown Screen. Pull the trigger! It's a great DIY screen with having someone else do it for you. Please take into account the LONG lead time though. That is the only real negative thing I have encountered but I was aware of that before I made my purchase.
post #226 of 990
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Originally Posted by Bachelor View Post

The corners are not Mitre but but box style. The seams disappear in the light. I don't think you can do wrong with the Jamestown Screen. Pull the trigger! It's a great DIY screen with having someone else do it for you. Please take into account the LONG lead time though. That is the only real negative thing I have encountered but I was aware of that before I made my purchase.

Thanks for the insight! I researched going the DIY route and it was gonna run me about $160 in materials so i figure for the little bit of extra cash it's totally worth my time and i know it's going to be well made. I'm aware of the lead time so no biggie there... think i'm gonna pull the trigger tonight on the 100" grey screen for use with my epson 8350 (12' throw distance and 11' seated distance) can't wait!
post #227 of 990
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Natedog like Bachelor said the corners disappear and I made the same decision between DIY and Jamestown. I have the 8350 and 130 inch white and they go great together amazing watching the Bruins sweep last night and the Lakers lose. Today hopefully the Celts can get a W and the Kentucky Derby bring on the big screen goodness.
Just and FYI check out Tron Legacy on projector pic and audio are reference in my opinion and The Fighter is a must see!!!!!!!!
Good luck with your decision
post #228 of 990
Nate and Quick


I was going to upgrade from my Mitsubishi HC1600 to the Epson 8700ub, but have heard good things about the 8350 for the price. Plus I believe Bestbuy has the 8350 in stock so I could pay interest free on it with one of their cards. Did either of you have a lower model PJ before getting the 8350? I am just wanting to know if I would notice a big difference. I use a white 120" JT screen myself. Any day time viewing with the 8350?

Thanks
Judd
post #229 of 990
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Limp Fox View Post

Nate and Quick


I was going to upgrade from my Mitsubishi HC1600 to the Epson 8700ub, but have heard good things about the 8350 for the price. Plus I believe Bestbuy has the 8350 in stock so I could pay interest free on it with one of their cards. Did either of you have a lower model PJ before getting the 8350? I am just wanting to know if I would notice a big difference. I use a white 120" JT screen myself. Any day time viewing with the 8350?

Thanks
Judd

Limp this is my first projector but I had researched getting one for over three years and finally decided to jump on the 8350 after reading about the 6100,8100, 3800 and 4000.One of the main reasons I bought the 8350 was BB and 3 yr. no interest plus all the great reviews of the three Epson models I listed lots of happy 8350 owners in the owners thread. The main problems with the 8350 seems to be convergence and dust blobs common to most lcd pj. I personally have not encountered any of these and another reason I chose epson was their incredible customer service one of the best in any industry! Most who have done side by side comparisons prefer the 8700 to the 8350 but is it worth the upgrade cost and most professional and common reviews give the advantage in pq to the mits 4000 over the 8350. I don't know how antsy you are to upgrade but we should be hearing about the new models in 5 month with cedia in september and these will be discounted. One thing if you buy at BB try to negotiate I was in BB for christmas when I told the rep if he got me the 8350 and panny bd 85 for 1100 total I'd take it and walla he did it pretty good score I think!!

Good luck with your decision and THANK YOU for your service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #230 of 990
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Originally Posted by Natedog07v View Post

Thanks for the insight! I researched going the DIY route and it was gonna run me about $160 in materials so i figure for the little bit of extra cash it's totally worth my time and i know it's going to be well made. I'm aware of the lead time so no biggie there... think i'm gonna pull the trigger tonight on the 100" grey screen for use with my epson 8350 (12' throw distance and 11' seated distance) can't wait!

I would reconsider the grey screen with the 8350. The 8350 is already such a bright projector, unless you will be watching with lots of light all the time you're only going to hurt the color quality of the projector.
post #231 of 990
What's shipping run on these Jamestown screens? I don't see a place to calculate on the website. Interested in the 110" white.
post #232 of 990
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Originally Posted by Allforce View Post

What's shipping run on these Jamestown screens? I don't see a place to calculate on the website. Interested in the 110" white.

30-35 bucks
post #233 of 990
I recently upgraded from a Jamestown screen to a Elite Sable screen. There are some big differences but the one thing I'm not sure about is the sheen on the Elite screen. I guess you could call it a hot spot or maybe my projector is to close for this screen. I didn't have an issue on my Jamestown but there is just a really bright shiny area from the light on my screen. It's only really noticeable on bright images. White being the worst. It's not the screen it moves as I do but I'm also not sure if there is anyway to combat it. Anyone else have this issue and how do you over come it?
post #234 of 990
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Originally Posted by Santi8 View Post
I would reconsider the grey screen with the 8350. The 8350 is already such a bright projector, unless you will be watching with lots of light all the time you're only going to hurt the color quality of the projector.
From what i've read, calibrating the PJ appropriately will totally offset the color quality decrease due to going with a grey screen. My setup is in a 1 bed apartment with floor to ceiling windows and pulldown sunshades on the adjacent wall (i started another thread w/ photos if you're curious), but i don't want to have to worry about watching football or golf during the daytime so i figured the grey would be the way to go.
Limp - this is my first PJ as well and just like Quick, i've been researching and waiting to pull the trigger on one for years. Although my brother had a Mitsu 720p PJ a few years back in a dedicated HT room and he has commented numerous times that this outdoes it by miles. Every time i turn it on i am just blown away by the picture quality and can't believe i hadn't gotten one sooner... Epson's killer service was the icing on the cake for me so i have the peace of mind that if anything ever goes awry, i'm covered... get one, you won't be disappointed ! (BTW, best buy does have 2 yr 0% financing on their CC and it ends up being about 1370 out the door)
post #235 of 990
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Originally Posted by Natedog07v
From what i've read, calibrating the PJ appropriately will totally offset the color quality decrease due to going with a grey screen. My setup is in a 1 bed apartment with floor to ceiling windows and pulldown sunshades on the adjacent wall (i started another thread w/ photos if you're curious), but i don't want to have to worry about watching football or golf during the daytime so i figured the grey would be the way to go.
Limp - this is my first PJ as well and just like Quick, i've been researching and waiting to pull the trigger on one for years. Although my brother had a Mitsu 720p PJ a few years back in a dedicated HT room and he has commented numerous times that this outdoes it by miles. Every time i turn it on i am just blown away by the picture quality and can't believe i hadn't gotten one sooner... Epson's killer service was the icing on the cake for me so i have the peace of mind that if anything ever goes awry, i'm covered... get one, you won't be disappointed ! (BTW, best buy does have 2 yr 0% financing on their CC and it ends up being about 1370 out the door)
Based on your description of your room, a gray screen is appropriate...
post #236 of 990
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Originally Posted by stitch1 View Post
I recently upgraded from a Jamestown screen to a Elite Sable screen. There are some big differences but the one thing I'm not sure about is the sheen on the Elite screen. I guess you could call it a hot spot or maybe my projector is to close for this screen. I didn't have an issue on my Jamestown but there is just a really bright shiny area from the light on my screen. It's only really noticeable on bright images. White being the worst. It's not the screen it moves as I do but I'm also not sure if there is anyway to combat it. Anyone else have this issue and how do you over come it?
Is an Elite much better than JT? Thanks
post #237 of 990
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Originally Posted by solitude View Post

Is an Elite much better than JT? Thanks

Yes and no. The Elite frame is far better / easier to setup. Their tension system is really easy to use. Once you know how to setup an Elite screen it should take more then 15-20 mins. On the JT frame it takes a lot of time and some help to tug tighten tug tighten and can be a real pain. Now the screen material it's self it gets a little harder to find a clear cut winner. The Elite screen seems brighter. They both claim 1.1 gain but to me the Elite is just brighter. That could be from the sheen it puts off like I had mentioned earlier. The JT screen would reflect back into the room more and at times would wash out the image a little from the reflections in the room. It would also show the lines from the pixels a little more. In fact I can't see the lines at all with the Elite screen but instead I see a sparkle from the sheen on the Elite screen. It's really hard to explain the hot spot type issue I am having with the elite screen but it like when you are pointing a light into a mirror and you see the light really bright right where the light is coming from if the light stays in one place and you move your head you will see the light from the new angle. Well it's kind of like that with my projector and this screen. So when I am sitting under my projector I get a brighter image in the center of my screen but when I sit off to one side that side is now brighter. Again it's hard to explain. Overall I feel the Elite screen is a little better and the prices are about right for both screens.

They both have their pros and cons. My biggest issue with my JT screen was the frame. I had the all wood design and my center support was wrapped making my image wired. When I 1st got my Elite screen it had a spot on it like was someone posted earlier. They sent out a new screen and no more spot. I plan on keeping the Elite until I get my next theater built and will be getting an AT screen at that time.

I hope this helps anyone thinking about these two screens. Let me know if you have any questions.

-Tim
post #238 of 990
Thread Starter 
Great comparison Stitch1 I hear you after studying screens for awhile now my next one will definetly be an at screen!!
post #239 of 990
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Originally Posted by Quick Hands View Post

Great comparison Stitch1 I hear you after studying screens for awhile now my next one will definetly be an at screen!!

What is AT screen?
post #240 of 990
Thread Starter 
Accoustically transparent screen it lets you put your speakers behind your screen and have the sound come directly from your screen. Most of the knowledgeable people on this and other forums swear by them to give you the ultimate home theater experience and price especially for a diy seems to be getting into an affordable price bracket. I highly recommend researching them if looking for a screen.
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