LG 2011 HDTV LCD Lineup - Page 21

Try lowering the sharpness and turn off edge enhancement.

Thanks. The LW9500 seems to have as much glare as the LX9500. The Sony is better in this regard. Oh well...

Well, I sold my 55 LW5700 model. Basically the Korean version of the 5600 but has 240 hrz.

Reasons I sold the TV are because the edge-lit LCD's are just terrible. Honestly, I really don't know how some guys actually can say the blacks on this TV are good (even with a lit room). I'm just being honest. They truly are horrible.

I must admit I will miss the Passive 3D. There is no doubt about it, it is the way to go.

However, I'm the proud new owner of the 55 LZ9600 model (full led). It's the successor to the gorgeous LEX8 (I had this TV too, and went with the 5700 instead). The bad news for me is that the LZ9600 is not a passive set. It's active. However, I never used the 3D anyways. I bought a 3D set for gaming and have quickly realized that gaming in 3D is not all that it is cracked up to be. The resolution drops so much that it just isn't enjoyable. I usually just play with out it.

The lesson I learned in all this (from LEX8 to LW5700 to LZ9600) is that 2D pq is absolutely most important (to me obviously).

On a side note, I want all you Americans out there to be thankful for the great deals you guys get (Canadians too). I'm a canadian who resides in Korea (where some of the best electronics in the world are created) and the prices here are astronomical to what you guys pay over there. They really are. I don't speak the language all that well so shopping for TV's can be a bit problematic. Plus, culturally, we judge things differently. If the price is high here then the quality "Has to be good." It can be frustrating to get simple answers sometimes. The asking price for the LZ9600 is 6,500,000 won! That translates to about $6,000 cdn/american. I got it for 3.2 million won (about $3000). Ouch!!

My LZ9600 is arriving in an hour. I'll post some pics and stuff later.

I originally posted this thread in the LW5600 owners thread.

I dunno how it compares in Korea; but we Canadians get screwed for availability and pricing compared to the US.

You do know that the LZ9600 is a 2D-only model, right?

Looks like you paid street price for the unit - http://shopping.naver.com/detail/det...1&frm=nv_model


-nony

I guess it's true, Believe half of what you see and none of what you "read."

Well, I have been reading the posts on here and actually some of the info is wrong. It's fully 3D. I know because i just recieved the TV. I'm at work now. The 70 incher is also 3D. Not sure what it will be if and when it ever hits America.

So far, I'm so pleased with my change. I really am. Gotta put it through it's paces tonight though. Can't give an accurate pq opinion if I have daylight streaming through my windows.

I will say this though, the aesthetics of this set are really stunning. I hope it becomes available in the west. It really is a beauty. Plus matte screen which is an absolute necessity in my place.

The downside for me is the app store is nothing compared to what you guys have in the west. No hulu, youtube 3D, netflix, mlb and all that jazz. Wish I had access to that stuff.

Put pics up in a day or two.

I though prices there were good these days. Going on my sixth year here. Plus with our dollar almost at parity that's BS! Yeah, Canada sometimes needs to treat those who are true Canadians a little nicer. One of the reasons I left.

After the sponsorship scandal and all. Our politicians steal from us like taking candy from babies. it's sad and nothing is ever done about it.

If a politician gets caught in the act over here they just kill themselves. ^^ Shame is a BIG THING here.

Sorry for the (off topic) rant everyone.

If you want to be an hero, you can probably mod your firmware,

http://openlgtv.org.ru/wiki/index.ph...tcast_services

and get a VPN connection with an exit point in US.

http://www.vpnreviews.com/index.php?cat=4

Thanks for the tip, but there is no way I could ever do that. I'm a bit challenged in that area.

The firmware thing is a bit hardcore, I agree. But you can still set up a VPN on your PC and connect the PC to the TV. Haven't done it myself, but apparently lots of people do this to get Hulu and Netflix.

How right you are. And my system for tracking LG's flagship models worldwide has been shot to hell - (temporarily). I didn't think that LG would actively (or negligently) engage in disinformation on their own Korean website. And the Aussies never got their 72LZ9700 launched. Was it even planned to launch?
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TC,

You are in the unique position to have evaluated both the LEX8 and now the LZ9600. How do these models compare?

-nony

Yes. Well, got to get home tonight and put Dark Knight in and check black levels. I would like to say that the pq on the 47 LEX8 was fantastic. It had 3D problems though. I posted pics on here in some thread. It would go into edge-lit mode when in 3D and there was some serious leakage in the corners. I hate flashlighting. Me, thinking 3D was gonna be the next big thing went for the LW5700 and learned my lesson. I'm only about the 2D pq from now on. I don't believe 3D is "there" yet. I'm dying to get home and take a look.

Would like to know how many dimmable zones are on the 55 LZ9600, but the salesmen here (even in the LG shops) are really uneducated about this stuff. Like I said, "If the price is high, it must be good. No need for tech questions." It can be frustrating. But i like it here.

Oh, and Nony, if you want and numbers off the set just ask. You seem to be interested in that kind of stuff. I saw a manufacture date of 4/11.

I have this - 288 zones, just like the Japanese version of the 55LZ9600 as is documented here on LG's Japanese site - http://translate.google.com/translat...ts%2Flz9600%2F

The above is only valid if the following holds true -

1. The zone information on LG's Japanese website is accurate (lgtv.jp/products/lz9600/)
2. The Korean model (55LZ9600-NA) has the same BLU as the Japanese model (55LZ9600-JA)

-nony

Is the bezel thinner than the D8000, I wonder?

I believe it is. 0.88 cm thick. A pen is thicker.

Here are some pics. No daylight pics; post them in a bit. Just some inky-blacky goodness. ^^

I'm just too happy right now. Some blooming, but i'll take it. Plus the 3D is great too. All done in full LED. Take a look and tell me your thoughts. They have got to get this baby over to the west.

Looks like LG just announced a DM50D that'll be out next month. Edit: looks to be a 3D monitor despite engadgets claims.

have you seen sony HX929 to compare?

Need specs on DM50D that was just announced. Anybody have them?

Nice pics.

Is local dimming disabled in 3D mode, similar to the LEX8?
I'm assuming that this is what you were referring to when you mentioned that "It would go into edge-lit mode"

-nony

Yeah, Nony, that's the great thing. Full Local Dimming in 3D mode. i checked out Tron in 3D and it was excellent. I'm now atrting to think Active is still the way to go, or until they can do full screen passive.

I'll post pics of the set-up later.

Ah, I will mention that it does not do local dimming in "PC" mode. That's what happens when you name the input.

Tapioca cold ..amazing pictures , amazing. Photography .. thanks. Thought lg was out of the active 3d 'cept for plasma? Congratulations. Amazing.. most all of us, after seeing your pics, are "green" phosphorus and neon green.. l want what you've shown in passive full or 1/2, amazing pictures. Why do they disable the local dimming? Seems that's the main reason people would buy this set?

My mistake that was the lex8. Yours is full local dimming. Mea culpa.

TC,

Have you noticed any improvements in the light leakage that was attributed to the bezel/frame design in the LEX8?

-nony

So, how is the backlight bleed on the corners of the screen with dark gray bars and near-black backrounds? Every LCD to this point still has the "glow" from the corners of the screen giving an uneven look to full screen dark gray backrounds/fade-to-black-backrounds/black bars.

edit - Shoot, nony already beat me to the main question that tickled my brain.

There is zero bleed like the LEX8 had.

@ Timothy 91. Perhaps you're talking about LCD tv or edge-lit LED LCD. With full array local dimming there should be zero clouding in corners and edges if the pixels in the "zone" are to be shown as black.

I will post some daylight pics of the set today.

Lovin' it. I maybe on a high from making my choice. I am SOOOOOOOO gald I sold that edge-lit led LW5700 tv. The difference is astounding. There are a few negs though. Did see some banding, but it doesn't bother me. There is some blooming in areas too. However, that is a ll to be expected from this technology.

DO NOT GO EDGE-LIT.

Thank you tapioca cold;

So no flashlighting is an interesting point because the black bars should be always completely black and this belongs to high end tv

Speaking of screen uniformity Lg said nanoled uniformity is 99%.
This could translate into clearer whites, gorgeous reds, perfect greens etc when you are watching a screen pattern of one colour for example during a tv spot or a game intro.

What do you think of this? Can you find between your movies or games something to show nanoled uniformity and make some photos ?

Just saw the the LW9500 at JB Hi-Fi Chadstone today. I think it had the worst glare in the store. Even worse than plasmas. All the screens were running some kind of aerial photography documentary (cities, glaciers, running herds, etc..), and the LG was connected via component 1920 x 1080i (don't know about the rest). To be honest I wasn't overly impressed. I had no access to settings, but the LG looked SD, whereas the Samsung next to it looked pin-sharp. IMO, high-end Samsung LEDs in brightly lit store settings have the biggest wow factor. They just pop. Sure, they are reflective, but not overly so. Off-axis, you see a bit more detail of what would otherwise be completely black head on (black crush). But how many people will notice this in the store? When I got my panel-lotteried Dell monitor 5 years ago (which I'd expected to be IPS), it took me several days to realize that what I was seeing was black crush courtesy of the PVA panel. That's why I think Samsung is doing so well. Grabbing attention in the showroom is key.

1080i?

Well, I have a full-array backlight in my LH90 model and I can state with certainty that all 4 corners of the display exhibit a slight "glow" from the backlight when showing a dark gray screen (like the kind you see in the opening credits of *some* movies when the white letters fade and the screen is just a flat dark gray). This "glow" of course doesn't happen when the video is truly showing a deeper black, it only shows up on dark gray backdrops and aspect ratio bars.


Banding is sometimes unavoidable, but I have a suspicion some banding effects could be a result of mpeg compression and not necessarily a problem with the display of the set. I've seen banding with identical video on even sets that are supposed to be the "best". I often wonder if it's really just an effect caused by compression not allowing for enough info to describe the image.

47LW9800 -
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...;BEJ47LW9800UA' (Conformance Report & Pics)
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/...=BEJ47LW9800UA (FCC Grant)

55LW9800 -
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...;BEJ55LW9800UA' (Conformance Report & Pics)
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/...=BEJ55LW9800UA (Grant)


These units are now certified for conformance to FCC Rules Part 15B as a Class B Computing Device Peripheral.

Note: Pics are currently short-term confidential and won't be publicly available until 8/15/2011.

-nony