Sony HDR-TD10 3D-Capable Camcorder - Page 3

Originally Posted by smacarth

Happened to find this link to a users manual.

http://www.pdfuu.com/sony-hdr-td10e-...eshooting.html

Originally Posted by icerat4

Well this is hopefully the week. Anyone hear anything at all.

Originally Posted by W.Mayer

what do you think as the sony have compare to the jvc almost the same sensor size
how the low light performance was between the sony and the jvc?

the sony pro version can record in 3d 2x 1920x1080 at 60i 50i and 24p.
so at least the 2x 24p version will play at my cinema dlp.

do you know if the sony will offers also the adjustment the jvc have to
fix and manual adjust the axis?

Originally Posted by NorthTV

Were you able to play with the two models sufficiently to determine how they comparatively perform in low light situations? My guess based on the specs is that it would be hard for the Sony to capture as clean a picture as the JVC with its 1.2 lens would be capable of doing. I suspect for many having a better resulting recording in low light situations is a lot more important than how crisp the viewing screen is on the camera itself. Assuming the Sony consumer version is deficient in this area, is there any suggestion that the Sony pro version at least equals the JVC's low light without noise 3D recording performance???

Originally Posted by W.Mayer

one difference between the jvc and the sony is that the sony
start at 34.4mm focal length the jvc offers only 42mm (all compare to 35mm film)

so the sony can record a wider picture.

i dont think that there will be a huge difference that the jvc have a optic that
can capture more light as in 3d we need higher f ratio as one of the golden rules in
3d are that all record material have to be sharp from front to infinity.

Originally Posted by Don Landis

The need to separate the lenses for better stereo effect is a myth and is laughed at by the engineers who design these 3D systems.

Originally Posted by Frank

That's absurd. The one inch IA of the Sony makes it worthless to me for everything except close in work indoors.

Originally Posted by Frank

That's absurd. The one inch IA of the Sony makes it worthless to me for everything except close in work indoors.

Originally Posted by Don Landis

I actually think too many amateur shooters make too big a deal over such subtle differences. As a professional shooter for broadcast TV, I feel if one shoots in too low a light condition he is either doing Detective work or wasting his time. Given the choice of a tool to shoot stunning images, such as a monitor that allows for perfect focus adjustment as opposed to not being able to see what you are shooting due to a coarse monitor and the use of a 1.2 lens vs a slightly slower lens, I'll choose the better, higher resolution monitor any day of the week. You will not be able to see the difference between these two lenses, trust me. Now what you will want in a better lens is a wider angle, especially important for 3D as most of your shooting will be in the widest angle possible. This is where you need to be setting your goals. Besides, you made an assumption that the signal to noise is deficient in the Sony. Is it really? As far as the pro version, The NX, I already listed the basic differences. The main one is the ability to shoot in 24P. Do you really need that?

Here's the bottom line on choosing a camcorder for 3D- Understand that within a category, all these companies will make a high quality product. The main difference will be in the ergonomics and major features. Second is the ability to have accessory support by both the manufacturer and 3rd party. Beyond that your most rewarding return on your investment is to concentrate on shooting skills and story telling.

So, if you are in the field and you try to grab a shot in 3D in low light level- How do you make your 3D adjustments if the image on the monitor is fuzzy and you can't detect what the heck you are adjusting? Answer- put everything in auto and hope for the best. Or, you have a sharp high res monitor and can set the camera for the best image under those conditions. Now you record your scene and have confidence what you shot will work, or you know that shooting will just not give you any results.


For those who want to believe what they bought is better than the competition. I say stop worrying about excuses and start shooting. The more you shoot the better you will be. You will learn to work around your camera's shortcomings. All cameras have them. When I played with the JVC and had trouble with the monitor seeing the 3D effect and focus adjustments, I finally pointed the camera at a very well lighted subject and the 3D began to show up and then I was able to adjust it for eliminating the double image in the shot.

I'm not saying the Sony is the better camcorder for you. Just that for me it fits in my tool kit better because of support structure. I rely on my experience and talent to take what the camera delivers, under my control, and sell the result. If you have no tool kit, maybe what you select is best based on availability and cost. But don't be fooled by specs that in the end won't make you an award winning or money making videographer.

Originally Posted by NorthTV


Thanks for taking the effort to add additional comparisons. Sounds like no one has really done a side-by-side comparison yet of the JVC vs. the Sony in varying light conditions. I have had camcorders in the past that produce beautiful video taken outside but when you use them indoors the result is most disappointing. The whole idea of a camcorder is so you don't have to lug around lighting equipment. I know the 3D video taken with the Fujipix W1 and W3 is best relegated to well lit situations. Hopefully both the Sony and the JVC can improve on that.

Originally Posted by icerat4


Dont take this the wrong way Frank. But i know none of these consumer cams are for you. Your in a different leauge all together. Not thats a bad thing. But you judging these cams is unfair in a sence. I am sure there ok for the avaerage idiot like me who just shoots now and then AND never edits anything. Ya get where i am going right. They dont have what you would have built them with . But i am sure they work ok. For us rookie idiots . Peace frank.