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post #151 of 695
Its a real shame. LG has the potential for the best IQ out of all the pico pj, but these are two huge blunders.

For those following the Qumi thread, it was discovered that a 1080p input produced much better picture than 720p. Makes sense, as this pico DLP chipset is more like 1080p Lite than 720p becuse of the diamond pixels (can resolve full 1920 lines or full 1080 lines, but not both at the same time). So can we conclude then that the LG is handcuffing the true potential of this chipset by forcing 1280x800?

Seems like this would be the perfect pj if we could take the firmware/scaling of the Vivitek and put it in the LG. We would then have the best of both worlds (no lens, focus type issues like the Qumi).
post #152 of 695
has any one run this thru a pc and used 1280x800 as out put?
post #153 of 695
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Originally Posted by eat meat View Post
has any one run this thru a pc and used 1280x800 as out put?
If you use this resolution it works fine, there's no stretching of the image.

I just came across this vid which some of you might find interesting - Vivitek Qumi vs. LG HW300Y. You need to search youtube for it as I can't post URL's.

I think the incorrect aspect ratio is visible in the vid on the LG HW300Y.

The focus on the HW300G is good - even across the screen and it does not alter from cold startup to hot running. There is chromatic aberration though, which seems to be a issue with all these small sized projectors.

If anyone can find out information from LG about a fix to the aspect ratio problem, please post it.
post #154 of 695
Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYzu6IhbSc
Definitely ad hoc and surely not a just/professional comparison, so be very subjective. You can most definitely see the image being stretched, it makes mademoiselle's neck look like a giraffe on the LG.
post #155 of 695
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Originally Posted by 3DNewb View Post

Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYzu6IhbSc
Definitely ad hoc and surely not a just/professional comparison, so be very subjective. You can most definitely see the image being stretched, it makes mademoiselle's neck look like a giraffe on the LG.

Based on the "refresh" effect of both projectors, is it fair to say that the Qumi is not refreshing as fast as the LG? You can see the refresh line on the LG, but it moves very slowly whereas the Qumi goes through it relatively quickly?
post #156 of 695
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Originally Posted by Rossy1234 View Post

I think the incorrect aspect ratio is visible in the vid on the LG HW300Y.

Indeed wrong aspect ratio, look at Paramount logo at 8:04
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And refresh rate on the HW300Y is sadly always 60Hz.
Still waiting for LG to answer my questions.
post #157 of 695
Some more interesting news : the true resolution of the HD PICO chipset is 1140x912 pixels according to a recent press release from NEC, NOT 1280x800 pixels as stated by TI !
post #158 of 695
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Originally Posted by MCaugusto View Post

Some more interesting news : the true resolution of the HD PICO chipset is 1140x912 pixels according to a recent press release from NEC, NOT 1280x800 pixels as stated by TI !

Well, it is "1280x800" for all perceptible purposes.
post #159 of 695
Hi

this might sound stupid , but would people get 'rainbow effect' from this projector ?
post #160 of 695
I still have the LG HX300 so I can wait out a little longer for maybe next year a true full HD 1080 P Led will come out.
January is 4 months away anyway to see if one is coming to the market.
post #161 of 695
Hi..so i take it this projector is a flop ? not a quality or worthwhile investment ? im confused now , i was going to purchase it ,but seems theres more negatives than positives. Should i just hold out till the next model ?
post #162 of 695
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Originally Posted by fatalfury View Post

Hi..so i take it this projector is a flop ? not a quality or worthwhile investment ? im confused now , i was going to purchase it ,but seems theres more negatives than positives. Should i just hold out till the next model ?

Wait till the next model.

The market is small enough as it is, it'd be hard to get LG to notice the aspect ratio blunder they've made with the HW300t.
post #163 of 695
I'm sure this ratio problem is a straight forward engineering issue that can be easily solved. LG just has to put resource on it. It will happen. It's too elementary and too much of a problem not to be addressed.
post #164 of 695
HI, I've had a lot of work this next days. I've called LG to know more about our problems (16/9 and the subtitle option...) They'll tell me what's wrong on wenesday. I'll give you back the information after they call me. See you soon.
PS : Fatalfury, there are no rainbow effect.
post #165 of 695
Hi danna

Thanks for reply about 'Rainbow effect' i was concerned about this , but seeing all this ratio talk im no sure what to do anymore, Danna are you pleased with this projector ? any regrets in purchasing it now ?
post #166 of 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by danna2509 View Post

HI, I've had a lot of work this next days. I've called LG to know more about our problems (16/9 and the subtitle option...) They'll tell me what's wrong on wenesday. I'll give you back the information after they call me. See you soon.
PS : Fatalfury, there are no rainbow effect.

@danna2509 & graafish

still no response from lg ?
post #167 of 695
Hi

seems like the excitment and joy for this projector has faded. I have however noticed the following projector , what do you guys make of it ? a possible alternative to the LG hw300 ?

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/pled-w500.htm

its approx £500 , specs seem fine , wish there was a full ,idepth review and some videos of it working.
post #168 of 695
Beginning to wonder if it was user error (PBKAC) since they have not reposted in regards to their contact with LG, or about anything. I looked at the LG manual, it says to hit the ratio button while watching to optomize the ratio. Below is the Aspect Ratio page of the HW300T manual. http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...oduct-profile#



Adjusting Aspect Ratio

Resize an image to view at its optimal
size by pressing RATIO while you are
watching projector.

NOTE
Some options may not be
available depending on input
signals.

You can also change the image
size by pressing Q.MENU or
MENU.

- 16:9: Resizes images to fit the
screen width.

- Just Scan: Displays video images in
the original size without cutting off
the edges.

NOTE
If you select Just Scan, you may
see image noises at the edge or
edges of the screen.

- Set By Program: Displays images
in the same aspect ratio as the
original image.

- 4:3: Resizes images to the previous
standard.

- Zoom: Enlarges an image to fit the
screen width. The top and bottom
of the image may not appear.

Adjust proportion of Zoom, press
︿ or ﹀.

Move the image on the screen,
press ︿ or ﹀.

- Cinema Zoom: Formats an image
to the cinemascope ratio, 2.35:1.

To change the ratio of the cinema
zoom, press ︿ or ﹀ and its range
is from 1 to 16.

To move the zoom focus up or
down, press ︿ or ﹀.

NOTE
If you enlarge or reduce an image,
the image may be distorted
post #169 of 695
It is a real error and a known problem now, i also have a HW300, i sent it to LG, actually waiting for news.

I tried a lot of HDMI cables and different sources and there is always that problem !

Every picture is resized in 16:10, so vertically 800px insead of 720px.

I tried a lot of LG products, and all the menus are the same so there is no doubt : LG HW300G/T has a real scaling/ratio problem, it is a shame for LG!

(I did my best to be understood cause I am french, more infos on cinetson forum but in french)

I precise that I have a LG TV very recent and I had before the LG HS200 projector : and no problem before.
post #170 of 695
hi ndx

thanks for your reply. Im glad someone is taking this directly to LG, such a techincal error cannot be ignored. I hope they fix it or release a newer improved model. I was truly set on this projector ,but just after reading what is wrong with it , lost all heart in ordering it. I wish LG reps,support would come to this site and comment what is going on and being done about it.
post #171 of 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatalfury View Post

I wish LG reps,support would come to this site and comment what is going on and being done about it.

I asked LG Electronics Germany some weeks ago about this topic. They told me (my translation):
Quote:


We inform you that our LG HW300G was produced primarily for the computer use.
Furthermore this device has a native 16:10 solution, the picture is therefore stretched a little.
Unfortunately, we cannot offer you any update to this, at present.

Please have also a look at the comparison in this youtube video
Quote:


LG HW300Y vs OPTOMA ML500 Wer ist der beste LED Beamer?

(sorry, I'm not allowed to post any links here). The seller (speaker) never mentions the stretching of the HW300Y (he recommends to buy the HW300Y because it has better colours) but it is clearly to see.
post #172 of 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by spuernase View Post

I asked LG Electronics Germany some weeks ago about this topic. They told me (my translation):

Please have also a look at the comparison in this youtube video (sorry, I'm not allowed to post any links here). The seller (speaker) never mentions the stretching of the HW300Y (he recommends to buy the HW300Y because it has better colours) but it is clearly to see.

sehr schwache rückmeldung. wirklich eine schande (a bissl deutsch muss auma sain)

*poor answer.really a shame*

alleine schon durch die tatsache, dass es eine scaling-option "set py program" gibt, welche nicht greift, ist ein defekt des geräts und berechtigt eine reklamation. wenn der hersteller das nicht beheben kann, würde ich vom händler das geld zurückfordern.

just the fact that theres a scaling option "set by program", which doesnt work, is a malfunctioning and legitimates for a customer complaint. so if the manufacturer isnt able to fix it, i would demand the vendor for money back.
post #173 of 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by spuernase View Post

I asked LG Electronics Germany some weeks ago about this topic. They told me (my translation):

Please have also a look at the comparison in this youtube video (sorry, I'm not allowed to post any links here). The seller (speaker) never mentions the stretching of the HW300Y (he recommends to buy the HW300Y because it has better colours) but it is clearly to see.

That's a retarded reply. They advertised it as a multimedia projector, etc. Not a work-related projector.

Sounds like one particular rep who got the e-mail just took the easy way out instead of doing his/her homework.

Keep re-sending it to the company till you get somebody else who is willing to look into the problem, cause IT IS A PROBLEM.
post #174 of 695
This has to be fixed by lg. This projector, because of its cms has to be the best choice of all these 1280x800 units. I'm holding out for it.
post #175 of 695
Hi

thanks for the link :LG HW300Y vs OPTOMA ML500 Wer ist der beste LED Beamer?

i watched it and the stretching is so blatantly obvious, its a eyesore. How the supplier in the video not notice or mention this is beyond me. Im gutted LG messed this up, i was goign to go for it , but now will hold out for newer model or fix , its ridiculous they dont do firmware upgrades.
post #176 of 695
Interesting video from the link. Yeah the contrast seems better on the LG, but then again the LG picture looks very dark in comparison to the Optoma.
post #177 of 695
Acer K330 vs LG HW300 best LED Projector

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BKQAhMfA8

Again, not a word a about the stretching issue
I Don't Get It!
post #178 of 695
Hi danna

since your a owner of this projector , is it possible you could check the settings and see if the ratio can be corrected via menu , so that the stretching disappears ? out of all of us , you would know best since you have the projector. What are your thoughts on the stretching ?
post #179 of 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel View Post

Acer K330 vs LG HW300 best LED Projector

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BKQAhMfA8

Again, not a word a about the stretching issue
I Don't Get It!

LG black level looks very good in comparison to the Acer.
post #180 of 695
Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel View Post

Acer K330 vs LG HW300 best LED Projector

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BKQAhMfA8

Again, not a word a about the stretching issue
I Don't Get It!


Indeed, see how our planet earth looks like a egg at 5.00
How can they not see this? I even left a comment with their earlier video comparisons but they removed it... they must know about the problem.

I see others had more luck then me and got a reply from LG. So they say it's for computer use? that also explains the 60hz only output of this PJ. My problem was not only the wrong aspect ratio but also the 60hz fixed refresh rate. Video motion is horrible on this thing, especially PAL material.

They future is not looking bright for this PJ, i'm going to send it back and demand my money back.
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