LG HW300T LED 1280x800 - Page 11

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

Called LG again today and I could not believe the level of ignorance, I will return the projector today and never buy another LG product again. I'd keep it but I don't want to have to talk to these morons ever again.

Originally Posted by PoisonWolf

That's the problem with LG in general. They make decent products, but their customer relations is garbage. Lawl.

I agree though, their LED projectors trash most competitors in terms of colors and the amount of settings.

Thank goodness my LG PJ and LG TV are perfectly fine. My LG TV required servicing and they were pretty nice about it, offered to replace the TV should they not be able to fix the issue (but fixed it at the end).

If you think their PJ division is bad, wait till you get their cellphones. Lawl.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

wonder why frys and tiger direct canada are the only vendors selling this thing...might it have something to do with customer complaints? or is it that it was just released? any thoughts people?

Originally Posted by PoisonWolf

Projectors are just a niche class of products in general. LED projectors are even more so.

Nothing more to it really. It could be that retailers like Bestbuy think that it's not even worth the shelf-space to import these things. Lawl.

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

reason I asked is bacause amazon, and hundreds of online shops are carrying the previous LG models, 200, 350 etc..makes one wonder. I spoke to Mike at projector people and he told me he doubter that they would carry it, didn't tell me why. I don't shop at bestbuy, just wanted to get it online and save a few bucks, but Im looking at the acer k330 and it looks good on paper, but I can't find a projection calculator for it. thanks poisonwolf

Originally Posted by JackB

http://www.acer.us/ac/en/US/content/...ion-calculator

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

thanks jack, but that calculator seems to go to 80" diagonal (7.8 feet) max, maybe I just don't know how to use it, I tried changing the distance etc.. but didn't work

Originally Posted by JackA$$

My LG HW300G
1280x800 from HTPC
Screen size about 80 inch (white wall)

Originally Posted by JackB

Geometrically speaking I believe that the ratio of 80" to whatever the lens to screen was should hold up. My screen is 88" diagonal so the the formula I used was 80''/7.8' = 88/x. That is 80x = 7.8*88. That is 80x = 686.4. That is x = 8.58'. So my lens to screen distance would be 102.96" or 8.58 feet. Any engineers reading this? Does this work?

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

thanks jack, you expect me to understand that?

Originally Posted by JackB

I think I learned that formula in the 8th grade. 80 inches is to 7.8 feet as 88 inches is to X. X is the to be calculated distance from the projector lens to the 88 inch screen. Another way to say it is 88 over 7.8 equals 88 over the to be calculated distance(X). So...88*7.8 divided by 80*X(80X) is the distance. Elementary my dear Watson.

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

jack, don't take it the wrong way, I appreciate it man, but I have to read your formula a few times to figure it out, not as sharp as I used to be

Originally Posted by JackB

Sorry for trying to be too cute.

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

no prob, but I guess everyone gave up on this projector....did you own the LG and took it back Jack? I miss mine, wished I hadn't returned it

Originally Posted by JackB

I do not own one. I am waiting for LG to fix the problem. It has the ability to calibrate the colors so that is my big reason for considering one. However, I'm not sure the inability to zoom will give me enough flexibility for placement in either of my two viewing rooms. The screens are 88" and 106". With the 88 the lens ends up in the middle of the couch and with the 106 it ends up about where my eyes are.

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

yeah I know what you mean, I ended up with a 94" from where my LG had to be placed, on my night stand next to my bed, against the wall. and I use it in a smallish room 10x11 feet, so image almost covers my entire wall, good thing my walls are high. Im going to buy it back this weekend, I know it's a simple firmware fix, Im sure they will update the firmware. have you seen it working in person? I'll tell you, I've had tons of 1080p projectors, and lots of 720P dlp and lcd, this lil thing has an awesome picture that won't disappoint you, and the reception and image quality of the tuner om HD channels is superb, bluray looks looks closer to 1080P than any 720 projector I've seen, that's way Im going to take a chance get it again. Im not getting any younger.

Originally Posted by JackB

When they fix the problem I will try one. I have a quality 720P projector but every time I watch it I wish for more resolution. The Samsung RPTV that the screen drops in front of is one of their LED light source TVs from three years ago. It is really comforting not worrying about the life of the lamp and the subsequent loss of brightness and color.

Originally Posted by turrepa

if you are using a native imagen 1280 x 720 on vga port the lg hw300 turn it in 16:9 too? im interested on this because i want to connect my xbox 360... and on hdmi or vga with my portable pc i can 'streech' the image how i want with the nvidia software 'nvidia panel control'. Moreover, with the vlc video you can play a video and select '16:9' directly from pc and Im sure that you should wacth it on 16:9 in the projector too. So... can somebody confirmate it with the 360 connected with vga?

(sorry my english, Im spanish and i dont speak english very well)

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

LG 300T/G has even more serious issues....Im done with this model.

3 different projectors, 2 different models, all defective

projector #1, hw300t...bought before I knew about the stretching issues and I returned it, the image quality was unmatched by any 720p projector I have ever used.

projector #2, hw301g..bought because it was open box and a great price, but the whole casing was warped, it would not sit flat on my nightstand, it wobbled badly. again awesome picture, but it went back.

projector #3 hw300t..I figured I'll get a new sealed unit and accept the stretching problem and enjoy it for a while. and to my dismay, I got a unit that had the worst uneven focusing problem I have even seen. focus the left side of the screen, right side would be out of focus, where text would be unreadable. going back to the store and hope LG recalls this fiasco. so much potential, such a long wait.

in closing, I'd say that having seen most of the LED projectors, LG has the most pristine image, absolutely beautiful...if you decide to buy one, make sure you can return it if you need to. cheers

Originally Posted by JackB

This focus issue seems to be a common trait of all of these small LED projectors. Again, the engineer part of me says that this is to be expected when these devices are so tight in their depth of field. It seems that critical to the set up is that the distance from the center of the lens to the right, left, top, and bottom of the projected image must be identical. So, the first check is to verify that these distances are identical. Were you able to do this?

Originally Posted by garibay_2004

yes, I made sure that the center of the lens was dead center in relation center of the screen. 80% of the image would be perfectly focused and the 20% would need an extra 8th of a turn of the focus ring to get perfectly focused, but of course, by then the 80% left of the screen was slightly out of focus. I have a feeling that they are using the same optics on this projector that they use on the hx350, and since that projector has a 4:3 chip it works fine, but the 16:10 chip for the hw is wider and it distorts the edge of the image. does that make any sense? but, for all I know, they all had the focus issue I just didn't notice it. I used a video pattern to test focusing issue and that's how I know

and you're probably right about it being a common trait of small LED projectors, but I heard that the optoma HD20 had some of the same issues, some people have reported it. so probably cheap optics do ad to the problem.

Originally Posted by JackB

As you probably know most sheetrock walls can be very uneven. If you can try moving the projector forward or backward fractional inches at a time after you have focused the majority of it perfectly. See how many inches or fractional inches it takes to lose focus. If less than .5 inch then this would show wall is uneven and maybe source of problem. Also, try pivoting the projector and see our many degrees it takes to focus current out of focus side and defocus current infocus side. These easy experiments might shed some light on whether it is cheap lens or setup issue. As a double check take a tape measure and measure all four sides. Easy to do with a wall. Impossible with a screen. If the top and bottom and left and right side aren't equal in length then it could be setup issue. Diagnosing a problem is always a process of eliminating each possible problem, one at a time.

Originally Posted by eat meat

there are 23 or so 1080p led projectors, they start around 10 grand but you can get a new runco led for thousands less I have heard.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...sort=pop&sz=15