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post #481 of 695
4/16/12 at 9:09am
I am a bit lost, as to when this pj exibits the 16:9 bug. However it should be an easy task to verify if there is any kind of distortion.

I've made a simple grid picture, in 1920x1080 dimensions, and turned it into a 5sec clip in various formats (H.264,avc1,divx). Project the pic/video, take a ruler/piece of rope/anything and see if the square in the center has equal sides. It can also be used to check keystone correction etc.



full image in jpg format: http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...olrath13/1.jpg ***Edit: apparently the image in the link is scaled, but it retains the 16:9 ratio.
video from youtube: http://youtu.be/DNi7t2gyVnA.

I have uploaded to a hosting service a .7z file containing the clip in 3 formats + the picture, if anyone is interested i'll send him a tell with the link - don't know if i am allowed to post it here, so i won't.
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post #482 of 695
4/16/12 at 9:17am
Congratulations, solved this issue it is the one of the best projector options IMO. Much better than any of the 500 lumens clones.

Finally I got HX300G (lower resolution -1024 intead of 1280- but also lower noise -only 23db, for my needs it is more important than resolution-). Anyway I tried HW300 and I am happy for you people who have it. And thanks LG
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post #483 of 695
4/16/12 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

Also, try connecting your BR player or HD satellite receiver to the LG using the component connections. The quality of the image will be almost the same and they may not have a bug in that part of the processing.

Are you able to download the patch described a few posts above?

No jack, I downloaded the hw300g firmware update but I haven't tried to install it yet, I worry it may mess up my tuner, i will eventually. The screenshots above of the on my blu ray player using regular DVD (copy) of titanic, I used the same settings using a blu ray shot in widescreen 2.39 and it shows the 5" stretch that has always been there.
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post #484 of 695
4/16/12 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by garibay_2004 View Post

No jack, I downloaded the hw300g firmware update but I haven't tried to install it yet, I worry it may mess up my tuner, i will eventually. The screenshots above of the on my blu ray player using regular DVD (copy) of titanic, I used the same settings using a blu ray shot in widescreen 2.39 and it shows the 5" stretch that has always been there.

I ask again. Can you play a 16x9 BR disc with the BR player output set to 4x3? I've got a hunch that will work.
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post #485 of 695
4/17/12 at 12:39am
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Originally Posted by JackB View Post

I ask again. Can you play a 16x9 BR disc with the BR player output set to 4x3? I've got a hunch that will work.

ok, here's what happened when I did that....my BR player will only let me set 4:3 if resolution is 480P or lower 720P and above the 4:3 option is greyed out.

but when set to 480P @ 4:3 (letterbox or pan and scan) you get a squished image, like the images I posted of titanic. but then with the projector zoom setting you can get any aspect ratio the disc is recorded in. hope Im making myself clear

when using 720p and above you can't use 4:3 on my BR player, and you can't do anything about the image size, the best you can do on a 16:9 is to set BR player @ 720p, 1080i or 1080p and projector @ just scan, that will give you a 3" stretch, instead of 45x80 image (16:9) it gives you 48x80, (16:10 is 50x80 in my case) so, it's somewhere in between, it boils down to the same old issue.

unless you wanna watch everything in 480P or you have a BR player that lets you use 4:3 setting @ 720P and above, those are your only option for the time being
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post #486 of 695
4/17/12 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by Ritzakis View Post

I am a bit lost, as to when this pj exibits the 16:9 bug. However it should be an easy task to verify if there is any kind of distortion.

I've made a simple grid picture, in 1920x1080 dimensions, and turned it into a 5sec clip in various formats (H.264,avc1,divx). Project the pic/video, take a ruler/piece of rope/anything and see if the square in the center has equal sides. It can also be used to check keystone correction etc.



full image in jpg format: http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...olrath13/1.jpg ***Edit: apparently the image in the link is scaled, but it retains the 16:9 ratio.
video from youtube: http://youtu.be/DNi7t2gyVnA.


here is the image projected from my computer/VGA....Image is correct aspect ratio (16:9) on screen, I measured. but the HW300 never had an issue with computer or external HDD, or USB image issues.

I have uploaded to a hosting service a .7z file containing the clip in 3 formats + the picture, if anyone is interested i'll send him a tell with the link - don't know if i am allowed to post it here, so i won't.

here is the image projected from my computer/VGA....Image is correct aspect ratio (16:9) on screen, I measured. but the HW300 never had an issue with computer or external HDD, or USB image issues.



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post #487 of 695
4/17/12 at 4:55am
Yeah, the purpose of the files are to check from a blu ray/ps3/non pc HDMI source. Most blu ray players have the ability to show some video format or the other, and since i didn't know whether the bug is exibited through video only and/or pictures, i made both.

I don't have that pj atm, i figured maybe it can be of some help to some people.
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post #488 of 695
4/17/12 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Ritzakis View Post

Yeah, the purpose of the files are to check from a blu ray/ps3/non pc HDMI source. Most blu ray players have the ability to show some video format or the other, and since i didn't know whether the bug is exibited through video only and/or pictures, i made both.

I don't have that pj atm, i figured maybe it can be of some help to some people.

OK, here are my findings....using my Blu ray player's USB media player to the projector using HDMI..both mp4 movie and photo are stretched to 16:10 ratio, no way of adjusting to 16:9 whatsoever, however...using the projector's USB media player it is scaled properly @ 16:9 both movie and photo, hope that helps
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post #489 of 695
5/5/12 at 2:17pm
I leave some pictures of the projector properly set, using my pc and mkv movies at 1080p, photos was taken with the phone: S looks better in person my good camera is broken

















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post #490 of 695
5/6/12 at 12:42am
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Originally Posted by kornel221 View Post

I leave some pictures of the projector properly set, using my pc and mkv movies at 1080p, photos was taken with the phone: S looks better in person my good camera is broken


















CAN YOU POST YOUR SETTINGS?? it looks amazing, if you find some time to post settings it will be appreciated
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post #491 of 695
5/6/12 at 1:22am
ok no problem this evening i let you my settings , to get this image i used ati video options to calibrate contrast and brightness
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post #492 of 695
5/6/12 at 2:16am
At first i let you my pc settings

I use vlc player and this is my configuration:

Go to tools - preferences - show settings - all - video -filters

1.Select Sharpen fiklter and change the value to 0,12:


2. Video scaling filter: Select Lanchos filter



3.Filters: enable video scaling filter and sharpen video filter


Then open ati catalyst control panel - Video -Color (if you have nvidia i suppose that there will be some similar options to change brigtness and contrast...)







At last go to My digital flat panel : pixel format :




And this is my pj settings:

Picture mode : Game

Contrast : 85
Brightness : 50
Sharpness : 100
Color: 49
Tint: 0

Advanced control:
Gamma: High
Black level : low

It took me much time to get this picture quality now i am really happy with this pj (mine is hw300g) , if you use other source than pc i dont know if my settings will be the best but via pc in my opinion they are XD if you are using other source i recommend you to try it with pc with my settings and you will see the difference
As i told you i use my pc to watch movies via hdmi selecting native resolution in ati control panel and i dont know why but almost all advanced settings are disabled i can only acces to gamma and blacck level XD

Sorry for my english :S and hope it serve you
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post #493 of 695
5/6/12 at 6:34am
while some may think it looks great,the 1000:1 contrast ratio really shows on this pj.
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post #494 of 695
5/7/12 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by kornel221 View Post

At first i let you my pc settings

I use vlc player and this is my configuration:

Go to tools - preferences - show settings - all - video -filters

1.Select Sharpen fiklter and change the value to 0,12:


2. Video scaling filter: Select Lanchos filter



3.Filters: enable video scaling filter and sharpen video filter


Then open ati catalyst control panel - Video -Color (if you have nvidia i suppose that there will be some similar options to change brigtness and contrast...)







At last go to My digital flat panel : pixel format :




And this is my pj settings:

Picture mode : Game

Contrast : 85
Brightness : 50
Sharpness : 100
Color: 49
Tint: 0

Advanced control:
Gamma: High
Black level : low

It took me much time to get this picture quality now i am really happy with this pj (mine is hw300g) , if you use other source than pc i dont know if my settings will be the best but via pc in my opinion they are XD if you are using other source i recommend you to try it with pc with my settings and you will see the difference
As i told you i use my pc to watch movies via hdmi selecting native resolution in ati control panel and i dont know why but almost all advanced settings are disabled i can only acces to gamma and blacck level XD

Sorry for my english :S and hope it serve you

thank you so much for sharing, your settings are great, im gonna try them and see, thanks again for taking the time to post them
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post #495 of 695
5/7/12 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by eat meat View Post

while some may think it looks great,the 1000:1 contrast ratio really shows on this pj.

it's true that black levels are not inky black but they are more than acceptable for netflix streaming, and with bluray it looks downright spectacular. I've owned the optoma HD20 at some point in the past and black levels are not much different, even when the specs are. but that's just my opinion
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post #496 of 695
5/7/12 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by kornel221 View Post

At first i let you my pc settings

I use vlc player and this is my configuration:

Go to tools - preferences - show settings - all - video -filters

1.Select Sharpen fiklter and change the value to 0,12:


2. Video scaling filter: Select Lanchos filter



3.Filters: enable video scaling filter and sharpen video filter


Then open ati catalyst control panel - Video -Color (if you have nvidia i suppose that there will be some similar options to change brigtness and contrast...)







At last go to My digital flat panel : pixel format :




And this is my pj settings:

Picture mode : Game

Contrast : 85
Brightness : 50
Sharpness : 100
Color: 49
Tint: 0

Advanced control:
Gamma: High
Black level : low

It took me much time to get this picture quality now i am really happy with this pj (mine is hw300g) , if you use other source than pc i dont know if my settings will be the best but via pc in my opinion they are XD if you are using other source i recommend you to try it with pc with my settings and you will see the difference
As i told you i use my pc to watch movies via hdmi selecting native resolution in ati control panel and i dont know why but almost all advanced settings are disabled i can only acces to gamma and blacck level XD

Sorry for my english :S and hope it serve you

great pictures
what is your screen size?
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post #497 of 695
5/7/12 at 11:28pm
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

great pictures
what is your screen size?

the screen size is 90 inch i am projecting on ikea tupplur XD
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post #498 of 695
5/8/12 at 5:03am
Hello,
Is the problem of scaling on 16/9 solved? I'm interested on this Lg because the picture looks amazing for the price!
I don't know which take between this unit and Acer h5360 or Optoma gt750 who are most expensive but no so cute...
Thanks
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post #499 of 695
5/8/12 at 5:10am
Re-hello'
Is there any raibow effects and shading on these new led projectors?
That's why I'm interested on this Lg because I'm afraid of Optoma and Acer RBE problem...
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post #500 of 695
5/8/12 at 6:34am
The scaling 16/9 issue is solved for the HW300G (with an firmware update), I am not sure for the other models (HW300Y / T).
There is a very small rainbow effect when there are white letters on a black background, during the titles for instance, but I only saw it a couple of times when I was really tired (I don't know if that had something to do with it).
I consider the HW300G a great unit, it has a great image quality and in addition it looks like the used materials are also of a very good quality. (This is my first pj)
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post #501 of 695
5/8/12 at 8:40am
how it this one with games? how much is the lag ?
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post #502 of 695
5/8/12 at 9:49am
Okay thanks Merks for the firmware.

About shading, you don't have seen any yet?

You only see RBE on the letters on black. So we can say that this led technology is less affected by this problem than normal dlp projector but it can appears sometimes, is it right?

Does anyone can tell more about his experience with these little problems of RBE and shading before I buy one?
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post #503 of 695
5/9/12 at 9:22am
I haven´t notice any shading. About the raibow effect you can take a look at:
lgprojecor dot com
Technical Lg
About led

(i can´t post the adress)
where it states that led projectors should not have RBE since they don´t have a color wheel.
Hope this helps
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post #504 of 695
5/10/12 at 1:43am
Hi there,

Is the firmware that is fixing the stretching issue available for HW300Y model ?

and one last thing guys, I`m still between buying HW300Y and Optoma ml500 or Acer K330.. what is your final words ? Shall I go with LG ? It might not be the right place for this topic but generally I look forward for hearing if you are satisfied with your purchase.. Does 300lumen vs 500lumen really create a different when its used in fairly dimmed room ?

Thanks!
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post #505 of 695
5/10/12 at 7:48am
With 300 lumens in a dark room I can get a bright 100” (or even larger ) image. For a much larger image, I think that the pixel would start to be noticed, hence the limit would be the resolution. Hence if you are planning of using the projector in a dark room having 500 lumens may not help that much. I think there are some comparisons in the youtube that you can check. (I am not and expert and never have seen any of the other projectors you mention, I have an HW300G, it is my first projector and I am more than happy with it…in addition all my friends are amazed of the image quality…however none of them own a pj)
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post #506 of 695
5/11/12 at 1:08am
I checked many tests and watched them through youtube but still a sound opinion would be more valuable.. So 300 lumens wouldn`t be a problem.

Do you have any knowledge about the firmware for hw300y ? Did it work for you ?
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post #507 of 695
5/11/12 at 1:53am
Batuhanu, I put the question on the french LG costumer service.
When I have an answer, I'll tell you...

So, in all the tests you have seen, somebody mention about Rbe and shading?
Thanks.
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post #508 of 695
5/11/12 at 6:33am
Thanks a lot Cortes!
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post #509 of 695
5/15/12 at 1:09am
Are you guys using official wi-fi dongle of LG for HW300Y? is there any other dongle you may suggest ? I read plenty of harsh reviews about LG dongle.
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post #510 of 695
5/18/12 at 3:17am
Hey batuhanu,

The man from Lg cs says that he doesn't know. He will ask the question to a technician...
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