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post #61 of 2068
Yes, but the jvc will has much better video.
post #62 of 2068
Jvc GS-TD1 will go to the Japanese market very soon.
post #63 of 2068
Some information I will put in my next post. As a new member I had to send three posts to write links for information. I am now ready...
post #64 of 2068
These links have some usefull information about JVC GS-TD1:
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate
and this:
http://www.jvceshop.co.uk/invt/gstd1bek/
and this in japanese:
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...02_424208.html
In the last there are videos and photos taken with the jvc.
Thank you. Kostas.
post #65 of 2068
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Originally Posted by kostasgr View Post

Yes, but the jvc will has much better video.

Better then what?
post #66 of 2068
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Better then what?

Jvc GS-TD1 is better than the GoPro 3D Hero kit...

I have also seen the videos in 3d from the Jvc GS-TD1 in my nVidia 3dVision ready Acer GD245HQ monitor and I believe that the quality is very high. It will be very difficult even for the Sony HDR-TD10 to offer so quality picture.
Jvc will give us very good 3d video for the money it wants.
I will buy a jvc, unless sony is better than jvc, something that is not easy for sony to do at this time with this camcorder.
post #67 of 2068
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Originally Posted by kostasgr View Post

Jvc GS-TD1 is better than the GoPro 3D Hero kit...

I have also seen the videos in 3d from the Jvc GS-TD1 in my nVidia 3dVision ready Acer GD245HQ monitor and I believe that the quality is very high. It will be very difficult even for the Sony HDR-TD10 to offer so quality picture.
Jvc will give us very good 3d video for the money it wants.
I will buy a jvc, unless sony is better than jvc, something that is not easy for sony to do at this time with this camcorder.

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post #68 of 2068
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Jvc GS-TD1 is better than the GoPro 3D Hero kit...

How many JVCs can I mount onto my surfboard?
How do I control them?
post #69 of 2068
alk, The videos I have seen are from the av.watch. You can also download them to check their quality.
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...02_424208.html
Some of them are in side by side 960X1080 avchd format and one of them is in full HD 3d 1920X1080 MVC mp4 format.
In my opinion they have very high quality.
post #70 of 2068
Frank, as for your needs the jvc is difficult to be very usefull. I don't have something to suggest.
post #71 of 2068
I'll have to agree also with kostasgr. The JVC is out Feb 9th here, thats next Wednesday. I had a chance to sneak a peak at it at a local Yodobashi electric store.

I was not allowed to touch it or fool with the controls, but a guy was showing the 3D video on a JVC projector and it was amazing Looked really high quality and the 3D was damn good.

I think I may buy one Feb 9th

By the way, I know that park in the photos on that link! It's Ohori Koen in Fukuoka, I took 3D pictures there before also.
post #72 of 2068
Looks nice but the one thing that really sticks out for me is the limited parallax.
Give me lots of parallax!
post #73 of 2068
bravia3D. I think that the camcorder will be very good and you be very pleased. One thing that I suggest you to check is the stabilizer. Before you buy it, try to check if the stabilizer works well. For all the people who use the camcorder without a tripod, the stabilizer is one of the most important thinks, and I believe it is more important for a good HD 3d footage. Jvc did not use quality stabilizer in the past, but the recent camcorders have much better stabilizers. At this time sony and panasonic have the better stabilizers. Unless you almost always use a tripod, check how well the jvc GS-TD1or sony HDR-TD10 stabilizer do the work for you.
post #74 of 2068
I'll check into that!
post #75 of 2068
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Originally Posted by kostasgr View Post

alk, The videos I have seen are from the av.watch. You can also download them to check their quality.
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...02_424208.html
Some of them are in side by side 960X1080 avchd format and one of them is in full HD 3d 1920X1080 MVC mp4 format.
In my opinion they have very high quality.

Greetings kostas. Thansk for the MVC link.

The 3D 34mbps ez0027.mp4 appears to be in frame-sequential format, not the usual dual stream left + delta-right format found on 3DBD discs. Is this the raw JVC clip, or has it been transcoded into frame-sequential?

The 2D 24mbps 00025.mts is interlaced. Is there a sample of 60fps progressive clip?

Many thanks and best regards.
post #76 of 2068
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Looks nice but the one thing that really sticks out for me is the limited parallax.
Give me lots of parallax!

The double edged sword about increased parallax (hence an increased interaxial) is subject material closer up will be harder to compose.

The ideal would be a variable interaxial, but that of course would be big $$$$.
post #77 of 2068
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The double edged sword about increased parallax (hence an increased interaxial) is subject material closer up will be harder to compose.

The ideal would be a variable interaxial, but that of course would be big $$$$.

Funny you should mention that cause I'm building such a device right now.
post #78 of 2068
It's certainly do-able with a mirror rig, and a few such rigs were made for the Fuji W3. I experimented with a mirror rig myself when shooting dual cam 3D with two TRV900's around 2003.

But so far, a consumer camera with built in variable interaxial has yet to appear.
post #79 of 2068
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It's certainly do-able with a mirror rig, and a few such rigs were made for the Fuji W3. I experimented with a mirror rig myself when shooting dual cam 3D with two TRV900's around 2003.

But so far, a consumer camera with built in variable interaxial has yet to appear.

That's great.
I'm building a small mirror rig now with a servo to adjust the interaxial. The whole unit will be remote controlled.
post #80 of 2068
Stable is yor friend.Sony may hve a edge here.And stable 3d shoot from a rookie make for nice vid.
post #81 of 2068
icerat4- Very true! I shook the Sony around to see if it was as good as the 2D handycams and it was. For very low frequency stability ( like walking and running with the cam) you would still need a steadycam or glidecam. I think most Frank's work is tripod mount so it is of less priority than the control and I/O capability.

BTW- the lens I am using in the avitar pic shooting from a helicopter is a Canon broadcast lens stabilizer. It sells for over $20K. I only rent them for client's requirements.
post #82 of 2068
Hopefully the JVC is stable enough.
post #83 of 2068
The JVC camcorder sees a price drop: $1999 to $1699

http://www.slashgear.com/jvc-gs-td1-...lash-03130649/
post #84 of 2068
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The JVC camcorder sees a price drop: $1999 to $1699

http://www.slashgear.com/jvc-gs-td1-...lash-03130649/

Now we will have to see if the Sony drops to $1299.00.
post #85 of 2068
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Now we will have to see if the Sony drops to $1299.00.



That would be nice
post #86 of 2068
The main problem I have with these new 3D cameras is the small interaxial distance.
Excessive interaxial can be reduced in software but not the other way around.
post #87 of 2068
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The main problem I have with these new 3D cameras is the small interaxial distance.
Excessive interaxial can be reduced in software but not the other way around.

Just a thought, but what is the liklihood that a removeable mirror rig could be added to extend the interaxial on either the Sony or JVC?
post #88 of 2068
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Just a thought, but what is the liklihood that a removeable mirror rig could be added to extend the interaxial on either the Sony or JVC?

.00000001% chance.
post #89 of 2068
The 10X zoom I am extremely skeptical about to say the least.
My current 3D camera has a 15X zoom and the cardboard cutout effect is very noticeable at full zoom.
The JVC small interaxial of around 1.3 inches combined with full zoom I don't expect to be usable.
I would like to see some downloadable samples of that.
post #90 of 2068
Frank- Are you planning to attend NAB? I completed all my reservations yesterday. This year will be lots of 3D production stuff. While they don't generally show consumer camcorders, they have lots of prosumer models and often the real difference is the model number. Also, B&H usually has show specials that are really good.
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