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post #31 of 36
Semi-sorry for the late thread bump...But I've arrived very late to the ICT story (having just heard about it recently). As if some consumer electronics & HTPC configurations weren't confusing and muddled enough at times (reminding me of a game of Twister at times) now this?!? I've decided I'm not going to get super powers in some freak mutant accident, so I'm going to have to deal with my frustrations with the MPAA & RIAA in other ways. But this is bending my temper just a tad more than I'd like. After dealing with BR player firmware update failures, inabilities to recognize certain discs, and HDMI handshake issues forcing me to use Component with certain models this is TOO mucking fuch!
I was in Sears the about a month ago & listened to a couple that fell for the White Van Speaker Scam (google it if you were like me and hadn't ever heard of it) and they were explaining to the clerk later that they didn't want to buy a Blu-ray until they knew if it was going to be around. ((I felt very bad for them about the scam)) but also chuckled inside at how ignorant they were about Blu-ray technology. I've enjoyed Blu-Ray's immensely when they played without a problem; but maybe those poor hick's were the smart ones after all. Sure I get to watch 1080P sometimes, or 1080i / 720P but the uncertainty of if my players going to recognize this disc, the cost & time spent sending it off after a bad firmware update while under warranty. TV's it won't communicate w/ bc of Plug&Pray GRRRR! Perhaps (besides my normal stupidity) they have a point even though they were incorrect about so many other things.

IDK if it's better not to have known about this for the many years old articles I read about it, or to have known about it coming the whole time. These broadcasters / movie houses \\ MPAA for a non-governmental entity they hold a considerable amount of control over the way we are able and not able to view things. They like the RIAA have been snails pace slow to embrace things like digital copies - play where & how you want to (except it's far from freely open). Anyway, talk about sapping the fun and excitement out of some of the enjoyment of movies. ---> makes we feel like starting up the VPN subscription again and firing out the box. F'U' MPAA!

EDIT: OOPS. went off on a 5 AM rant after not sleeping. Actually just wanted to know what the current news about this was? It was great information thus far. Thank you.
post #32 of 36
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Originally Posted by DA1745 View Post

Actually just wanted to know what the current news about this was? It was great information thus far. Thank you.

I haven't heard of recent developments. There are two separate issues:

(1) ICT itself, which is disc based. I haven't heard conclusive reports of it being used. I thought I had an example (LAST OF THE MOHICANS) but I think that was a mistake. Studios are supposed to indicate when it's being used on the packaging, although if they don't I don't know who would make them.

(2) 2011 AACS licensing which prevents high def video over component on new players. Applies to all BR discs, but doesn't affect old players.

-Bill
post #33 of 36
The PS3 upscales, it always shows 1080p for me even when playing SD content.
post #34 of 36

ITC enabled?

Sorry if this has been asked, and answered elsewhere, but it it has I haven't found it.

I'm a late "arriver" to the blu-ray world. My wife bought me a player for xmas and unfortunately my HDTV doesn't have HDMI hookups.

So, after numerous hours of searching, researching, I have learned what everyone on this forum has known for years...... No component video on new players, if you have an older player with component ITC discs will be downgraded, etc etc.

My question that I can't find an answer to is.......are most blu-ray discs actually ITC protected anyway? So, if I could find a player with component hookups (craigslist, ebay, etc) should I do it or are the new discs protected anyway?

Thanks for any help you can give me and again I apologize if this has been asked and answered elsewhere.
post #35 of 36
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Originally Posted by igolf View Post

Sorry if this has been asked, and answered elsewhere, but it it has I haven't found it.

I'm a late "arriver" to the blu-ray world. My wife bought me a player for xmas and unfortunately my HDTV doesn't have HDMI hookups.

So, after numerous hours of searching, researching, I have learned what everyone on this forum has known for years...... No component video on new players, if you have an older player with component ITC discs will be downgraded, etc etc.

My question that I can't find an answer to is.......are most blu-ray discs actually ITC protected anyway? So, if I could find a player with component hookups (craigslist, ebay, etc) should I do it or are the new discs protected anyway?

Thanks for any help you can give me and again I apologize if this has been asked and answered elsewhere.

We've heard nothing about ICT for years. I think the studios are depending on the death of component video on the hardware side.

-Bill
post #36 of 36
You could also just get an HDMI-to-component converter; here is one available from an AVS Forum supporter for about US$40:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8125

That should eliminate any ICT issues now or in the future.
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